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Post by buffybot38 on Sept 14, 2009 1:26:40 GMT -5
I am sure most people know about this but if you dont then this will be a good read but Joss annouced he had a story for Tara to return near the end of season 7 but because Amber Benson wasent availible it never happened here is what it was about While speaking at the Wizard World Chicago Convention in August 2004, Joss Whedon claimed he had planned to bring Tara back from the dead at the end of Season Seven. According to Whedon, the episode would have centered around Buffy being granted one "life-altering" wish. Buffy would have spent the whole episode trying to decide what she wanted to do with the wish (including, possibly, restoring Angel's humanity). The episode would have ended with Buffy telling Willow that she'd just gotten a great new pair of shoes, and when Willow asked her if she used up her wish on new shoes, Buffy would have said, "No, silly!" and stepped aside to reveal Tara. This plan was abandoned when Amber Benson was unavailable for filming
I cant belive they dident do this ecause this probably would have been the saddest episode ever but would it have changed any of season 8 anyone else a little mad that they dident do this idea
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Post by Hallow Thorn on Sept 14, 2009 2:03:22 GMT -5
I still think it's all bull-shit, I just can't see him doing that... at all. It just goes against everything about life and death on the show, and it wasn’t even a supernatural death like Buffy/Angel/Spike/Cordelia /Fred or Kennedy, the poor girl was shoot.  But then again, with the way Season 8 is going, why not?. lol |
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Sept 14, 2009 2:09:25 GMT -5
I love the idea. In case there hadn't been a season 8, I would have been glad walking around thinking that's what actually happened, but I can't since I like reading season 8, and in season 8, ... *sob* she's not there, I can't pretend.
Actually, I'm not sure I would have liked that, for real. It's just so... easy. Tara was firmly against breaking the order of nature that way, and Buffy knows what it's liked to be ripped out of Heaven, so why risk it? Even if an angel came down offering her a life-altering wish, she can't be sure that a)the angel is a nice angel, b)Tara would like it.
Not really a good thing for the last episode, considering the consequences that Tara would have to deal with. Even tough I think it could have worked out, everyone lived happy('cept for Kennedy) and all that, it's not a thing for the last episode.
It's just too easy, and Buffy isn't about the easy fix. Okay, Chosen ended with a easy "let's make everyone slayers" fix, but the consequences of that are being dealt with in Season 8.
Wow, I always thought I liked the idea of Tara returning like that, until I wrote this post. Now it seems horrible. But hey, I thought Spike falling in love with Buffy was a horrible idea and now I'm... kinda still horrified, but it worked out. Maybe Joss could do it.
And maybe I would be going "I can't believe Buffy got a fairytale ending. A 'happy ever after'. Sure, Anya and Spike died, but it was heroic deaths, and then Tara came back. Was Joss on something when he filmed?"
Btw, how funny would it have been if Buffy had chosen to make Angel human and he would have told her what happened in I Will Remember You? And he said "I'm not done helping, turn me back"?
... Actually, that would be kind of sad.
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Post by The Night Lord on Sept 14, 2009 2:21:31 GMT -5
In all honestly, I don't agree with the original idea. It just seems really silly to me and it had happened, I know I wouldn't have been very happy about it and like Thorn said, it wasn't a supernatural death. It was a natural death and as we all know, you can't reverse a natural death. So yeah, I think the original idea is really stupid
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Post by Greer on Sept 14, 2009 13:49:55 GMT -5
I don't know how that would've worked out. I feel like it would've cheapened the series, and Tara's death, in many ways. It's been stated already that Tara is all about the natural order of things, and this would've drastically changed that fact. I feel that while it was horrible and I hated her death, it was something that happened in a normal human way. In our real lives outside of the 'verse, people die every day in natural ways and can't come back, so I feel that Joss was trying to show that, and that everything can't be a quick fix.
I feel that the concept of Buffy trying to decide on a wish would be an interesting filler episode, but definitely not a series-ender. The Buffy picking a pair of shoes thing seems kind of like a lame storyline, but it could've all just been conceptual and not gone any further than that. I've also heard that she had the option of bringing her mother back from the dead as well. I think it would've been really interesting to see, if the episode actually had a script, what all the choices that Buffy thought of would've been.
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Post by elenasaur on Sept 14, 2009 15:53:55 GMT -5
I really think it would have cheapened Tara's death. Amber Benson had already refused to come back as the First, so even without her filming something else I would have been surprised if she had signed on for that.
And Joss is so not about the quick-fix happy ending. I think if he had done that episode, there would be an equal and opposite reaction kind of thing. Like maybe one of the other scoobies would drop dead.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Sept 14, 2009 15:59:11 GMT -5
And Joss is so not about the quick-fix happy ending. I think if he had done that episode, there would be an equal and opposite reaction kind of thing. Like maybe one of the other scoobies would drop dead. Really? He must have planned something else, because something like that can't just be swept under the rug, Buffy's guilt dilemma would have lasted for at least half a season. But yeah, I agree that he couldn't have been planning a easy fix without consequences. Not sure how he would have worked it out. |
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Post by Xander-Shaped Friend on Sept 14, 2009 21:53:16 GMT -5
I'm glad they didn't do it, but whenever I think about what that would've looked like always gives me chills and made me tear up the first time.
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Post by Erica on Sept 15, 2009 0:17:06 GMT -5
When I first read that, a few years ago, I got the chills also and started crying a little...then again I was about 15 or 16 and a hopeless romantic (still am), so that's probably why.  Still, I can't see that happening, at all. We know Joss, we know it's rare for him to let things have a happy ending, especially in love. Plus, it is kind-of cheesey. It just wouldn't work. |
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Post by Smashed on Sept 15, 2009 19:11:33 GMT -5
Hm. I don't know if I'd 100% love this. I would love to have Tara back though! So much! I miss her presence. Would it cheapen Tara's death? No. Her death was cheap enough. Here's why. Joss put her with Willow for an episode and then killed her to ~shock fans~ and lead into the cheesiest season finale ever. They had Tara get shot by a "stray bullet"...that magically moved from Buffy's yard to Willow/Tara's room and hit her directly in the heart. Then they had Willow go about like an idiot for a couple of episodes, changing from "I want to kill those nerds" to "The world should be gone!". And then it was all better because of a broken yellow crayon. I'm a HUGE Willow fan. I'm a huge Tara fan too. But in all honesty, that season finale was just way over the top. It makes me cringe when I see it. :\ Edit: Sorry if I seem bitchy. I'm not in a good mood and this finale really really irked me.  |
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Post by jellymoff on Sept 15, 2009 20:18:45 GMT -5
Hm. I don't know if I'd 100% love this. I would love to have Tara back though! So much! I miss her presence. Would it cheapen Tara's death? No. Her death was cheap enough. Here's why. Joss put her with Willow for an episode and then killed her to ~shock fans~ and lead into the cheesiest season finale ever. They had Tara get shot by a "stray bullet"...that magically moved from Buffy's yard to Willow/Tara's room and hit her directly in the heart. Then they had Willow go about like an idiot for a couple of episodes, changing from "I want to kill those nerds" to "The world should be gone!". And then it was all better because of a broken yellow crayon. I'm a HUGE Willow fan. I'm a huge Tara fan too. But in all honesty, that season finale was just way over the top. It makes me cringe when I see it. :\ Edit: Sorry if I seem bitchy. I'm not in a good mood and this finale really really irked me. You're not alone Smashed, I'm not a big fan of the whole "Dark Willow" saga either. |
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Post by collex on Sept 16, 2009 9:46:27 GMT -5
I think it' good that this idea was abandonned. On the show, resurrection was always a big thing (Angel, Buffy, Spike and the attempted resurrection of Joyce) A throw-away resurrection like that have been silly and cheesy. And Buffy would not, I think, ever resurrect someone who had good chance to be in heaven (like Tara).
Now, if she granted Willow one chance to talk or see Tara again for, like, a day, that would have been a good idea.
I also would have liked the "pair of shoes" idea and what it would have meant: things are what they are, and "cheating" by changing them is not the best way to cope with our problem. Just like when Cordelia wished for Buffy never to have come to Sunydale.
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Post by buffyfan21 on Sept 16, 2009 11:32:46 GMT -5
I think it would have been great to see it on film, but I just don't know if it ever would've happened. I just can't see Joss actually doing this.
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Post by willow333 on Sept 16, 2009 13:57:38 GMT -5
I think my opinion is different than most of the people in this thread. I thought this was a great idea. I wanted Tara to come back so bad and when I heard this was an option that did not play out I was sad. I think that if Joss had don this, he would have had all the bases covered and the storyline thought out. He did with pretty much everything else, so why doubt him? Anyway, it would have taken Kennedy out of the mis, who most people hate. (I dont mind her, actually)
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Post by Midnight Butterfly on Sept 18, 2009 11:47:58 GMT -5
I really wished that they did that. I would have loved Tara/Amber to come back. That way stupid Kennedy wouldn't be on-screen so much |
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Post by CourtneyDax on Sept 23, 2009 22:49:27 GMT -5
Hm, I used to wish for that plot line to actually be made cannon, but reading all your posts, I just don't think that would be a very good idea. I've been thinking about what would happen if Tara came back, and I'm not really sure that Willow and her would still be made for eachother like they used to. When Willow went all "dark and veiny", she really went off the deep end, and parts of her personality were changed forever (and that's why I stopped liking Willow after season 6). She's not really the same girl she was in season 5 at all. Tara's not really into the whole dark thing, so we won't know if she and Willow are compatible anymore, so then you end up with all this angst! And don't get me started on Kennedy! BUT, Tara is still my favorite character, so if they were able to bring her back in a SMART and CREATIVE and NOT JIPPING HER CHARACTER way, then I would be fine with it. |
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Post by magicboxregular on Sept 27, 2009 7:14:18 GMT -5
I love the idea and i am enraged they did not do this but then again it would have been like the angel episode "i will remember you" she could have had Tara back but there would have been a side effect so it would have to be changed back.
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Post by gumgnome on Sept 30, 2009 8:40:59 GMT -5
I think it would be a poor decision for Buffy to use a wish to bring someone back from the dead after her own experience. She, of all people, should know that it's not necessarily a good idea. In general, I think it would have been an anti-climax if the last episode were like this (a decision rather than a battle) and would prove too divisive for characters and fans as well. Everyone would have an idea about what they wanted from the wish. What if Anya still died, but Buffy still brought back Tara? Pretty unfair to Xander, no?
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Post by Neil on Oct 1, 2009 11:08:47 GMT -5
I think this ending would be great, if the series or the overall story of Buffy ends at one point.
The scenario would be like: she cleared the world of all evil and gets that altering wish by whatever good force. (inbetween: Kennedy dies, Willow having trouble and feeling desperate although they have saved the world for the final time).
So it could be a nice farewell to everyone on the one hand and on the other leaves you with a little cheer up (and probably a good end to a character´s journey), I think.
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