Paul
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May 6, 2009 22:30:21 GMT -5
Post by Paul on May 6, 2009 22:30:21 GMT -5
How do people know who Connor is? In "Origin", I thought the box breaking only affected those immediately next to it. Yet, in AtF, Spike recognises Connor as Angel's son and Lorne knows who he is as well. Even if the memory spell was broken somehow, how would Spike even know Angel had a son in the first place?
Also, why does the Fall of L.A. give Connor his full memories back and what was the story purpose of having that moment, since he already knew the gist of what happened anyway? It seemed kind of redundant.
Sorry to ask annoying questions but that whole Connor thing has been really confusing me.
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patxshand
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Writer/director/Amy Acker's husband.[Mo0:0]
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May 6, 2009 23:45:58 GMT -5
Post by patxshand on May 6, 2009 23:45:58 GMT -5
I'm assuming that Spike's roommate will be Jeremy, who will be annoy/warm the heart of Spike with his daily visits from the bride to be.
Oh, and I totally think Harmony was running the only functioning hair salon in LA during the "Hell moment." Just sayin'.
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Paul
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May 6, 2009 23:56:00 GMT -5
Post by Paul on May 6, 2009 23:56:00 GMT -5
I'm assuming that Spike's roommate will be Jeremy, who will be annoy/warm the heart of Spike with his daily visits from the bride to be. Oh, and I totally think Harmony was running the only functioning hair salon in LA during the "Hell moment." Just sayin'. Lol, that's a really funny sitcom-y concept. Jim from The Office sharing a flat with Spike from Buffy.. hilarity ensues! Maybe that's when Harmony met Clem, when they were both hanging out in Hell A (Silverlake?) It would have been nice if she'd got a First Night story, at least.
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richie
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May 7, 2009 0:01:59 GMT -5
Post by richie on May 7, 2009 0:01:59 GMT -5
i have a question. i loved after the fall, was just THE BEST THING EVER. but now, the aftermath its just scaring me! what i want to know its: is there a plan, a long arc, like after the fall, for this aftermath thing? or its gonna be like season 5. just some short arcs, withtout a long ones(like season 4)?
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May 7, 2009 0:10:11 GMT -5
Post by Brian Lynch on May 7, 2009 0:10:11 GMT -5
just curious if there was a reason the issues for Vol. 4 of AFter the Fall (#15-17) weren't collected in Vol. 3 and were instead made into a separate trade paperback? It seems weird to only have three issues collected in a TPB, when generally the average TPB collects 4-6 issues if not more... i understand that vol. 2 only had three issues because the First Night arc was only three issues long, but #15 picked up directly from where #14 left off so it could've worked nicely. Volume 3 was four issues, 9-12. Volume 4 is five issues, 13-17. One giant volume would be too expensive, I guess. I'm not really in charge of that kinda decision.
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May 7, 2009 0:10:57 GMT -5
Post by Brian Lynch on May 7, 2009 0:10:57 GMT -5
Any major shocks like the whole Buffy/Satsu thing in S8 in store for us? Spike and Satsu are going to hook up. Kidding, I'm kidding.
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May 7, 2009 0:13:18 GMT -5
Post by Brian Lynch on May 7, 2009 0:13:18 GMT -5
How do people know who Connor is? In "Origin", I thought the box breaking only affected those immediately next to it. Yet, in AtF, Spike recognises Connor as Angel's son and Lorne knows who he is as well. Even if the memory spell was broken somehow, how would Spike even know Angel had a son in the first place? Also, why does the Fall of L.A. give Connor his full memories back and what was the story purpose of having that moment, since he already knew the gist of what happened anyway? It seemed kind of redundant. Sorry to ask annoying questions but that whole Connor thing has been really confusing me. Everything Wolfram & Hart did was to push Angel into becoming what they needed him to be. So the "wrong" people (demons, vamps, etc) knew who Connor was, simply because it would make him more of a target, and Connor was given his memories back to slow him down a bit and make him vulnerable. Whether or not W&H succeeded in that department, that's in question.
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May 7, 2009 0:14:05 GMT -5
Post by Brian Lynch on May 7, 2009 0:14:05 GMT -5
I'm assuming that Spike's roommate will be Jeremy, who will be annoy/warm the heart of Spike with his daily visits from the bride to be. Oh, and I totally think Harmony was running the only functioning hair salon in LA during the "Hell moment." Just sayin'. I think having Jeremy live with Spike would be too close to Xander and Spike being room-mates, we've seen that. Plus, Jeremy's gettin' hitched!
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May 7, 2009 0:15:08 GMT -5
Post by Brian Lynch on May 7, 2009 0:15:08 GMT -5
i have a question. i loved after the fall, was just THE BEST THING EVER. but now, the aftermath its just scaring me! what i want to know its: is there a plan, a long arc, like after the fall, for this aftermath thing? or its gonna be like season 5. just some short arcs, withtout a long ones(like season 4)? I don't have anything to do with Kelley's arc, so I'm not sure what she has planned.
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May 7, 2009 2:57:35 GMT -5
Post by stephenmooney on May 7, 2009 2:57:35 GMT -5
Just how super-awesome would you say Stephen is? Like super-dooper awesome or more run of the mill regular awesome? Would you smell his hair? I don't know him or anything, but from what I hear... he's pretty darn awesome.
Just how tall are you anyway?
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Hallow Thorn
Bad Ass Wicca
Oh and You're Welcome
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May 7, 2009 3:23:14 GMT -5
Post by Hallow Thorn on May 7, 2009 3:23:14 GMT -5
Fight! Fight! Fight!
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May 7, 2009 3:28:40 GMT -5
Post by henzINNIT on May 7, 2009 3:28:40 GMT -5
Here's an awesome scale to help pin-point Steven's awesome level...
>|Awesome|-----|Super-Awesome|-----|Jesus|-----|Joss Whedon|-----|Obama, pre-election-aweseome|<
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The Night Lord
Wise-cracking Sidekick
The Long Kiss Goodnight
There can be no love. Only pain exists[Mo0:1]
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May 7, 2009 3:28:45 GMT -5
Post by The Night Lord on May 7, 2009 3:28:45 GMT -5
Ding ding ding, round one. Who will win? Brian Lynch or Stephen Mooney? ;D
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Secret Scoobie
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May 7, 2009 3:37:21 GMT -5
Post by Secret Scoobie on May 7, 2009 3:37:21 GMT -5
Here's an awesome scale to help pin-point Steven's awesome level... >|Awesome|-----|Super-Awesome|-----|Jesus|-----|Joss Whedon|-----|Obama, pre-election-aweseome|< That scale sits about >|Awesome|-----|Super-Awesome|-----|Jesus|--*HERE*---|Joss Whedon|-----|Obama, pre-election-aweseome|< on itself. *karma*
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Paul
Ensouled Vampire
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May 7, 2009 8:06:08 GMT -5
Post by Paul on May 7, 2009 8:06:08 GMT -5
How do people know who Connor is? In "Origin", I thought the box breaking only affected those immediately next to it. Yet, in AtF, Spike recognises Connor as Angel's son and Lorne knows who he is as well. Even if the memory spell was broken somehow, how would Spike even know Angel had a son in the first place? Also, why does the Fall of L.A. give Connor his full memories back and what was the story purpose of having that moment, since he already knew the gist of what happened anyway? It seemed kind of redundant. Sorry to ask annoying questions but that whole Connor thing has been really confusing me. Everything Wolfram & Hart did was to push Angel into becoming what they needed him to be. So the "wrong" people (demons, vamps, etc) knew who Connor was, simply because it would make him more of a target, and Connor was given his memories back to slow him down a bit and make him vulnerable. Whether or not W&H succeeded in that department, that's in question. Oh, I thought for some reason the weird hell dimension physics randomly brought on the lost memories, the same way it messed with Illyria and Nina. That actually makes more sense. Does that mean LISA (Gwen's thingy) breaking was part of W&H's master plan too? That's pretty sick of them, to exploit each characters' individual weakness. ;D I still don't get how Spike and Lorne would know about Connor. If anything, that knowledge would only help them... plus Spike is barely a blip on W&H's radar. Or do you mean all vampires and demons as a specie were made aware of Connor, but humans like Kate weren't? Thanks for answering these questions, btw.
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queeroid
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gothatfar.[Mo0:0]
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May 7, 2009 8:17:08 GMT -5
Post by queeroid on May 7, 2009 8:17:08 GMT -5
Everything Wolfram & Hart did was to push Angel into becoming what they needed him to be. So the "wrong" people (demons, vamps, etc) knew who Connor was, simply because it would make him more of a target, and Connor was given his memories back to slow him down a bit and make him vulnerable. Whether or not W&H succeeded in that department, that's in question. Oh, I thought for some reason the weird hell dimension physics randomly brought on the lost memories, the same way it messed with Illyria and Nina. That actually makes more sense. Does that mean LISA (Gwen's thingy) breaking was part of W&H's master plan too? That's pretty sick of them, to exploit each characters' individual weakness. ;D I still don't get how Spike and Lorne would know about Connor. If anything, that knowledge would only help them... plus Spike is barely a blip on W&H's radar. Or do you mean all vampires and demons as a specie were made aware of Connor, but humans like Kate weren't? Thanks for answering these questions, btw. The way I see it: the grapevine's a hell of a thing. Thanks for doing this, Brian!
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May 7, 2009 10:53:19 GMT -5
Post by Brian Lynch on May 7, 2009 10:53:19 GMT -5
Just how super-awesome would you say Stephen is? Like super-dooper awesome or more run of the mill regular awesome? Would you smell his hair? I don't know him or anything, but from what I hear... he's pretty darn awesome. Just how tall are you anyway? Stephen Mooney is the best kind of awesome and I know we'll be working together for years and years (poor, poor bastard). I haven't smelled his hair, but I have bought underwear with and/or near him. Is that weird? I am 6 foot three and a half.
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May 7, 2009 10:54:48 GMT -5
Post by Brian Lynch on May 7, 2009 10:54:48 GMT -5
Everything Wolfram & Hart did was to push Angel into becoming what they needed him to be. So the "wrong" people (demons, vamps, etc) knew who Connor was, simply because it would make him more of a target, and Connor was given his memories back to slow him down a bit and make him vulnerable. Whether or not W&H succeeded in that department, that's in question. Oh, I thought for some reason the weird hell dimension physics randomly brought on the lost memories, the same way it messed with Illyria and Nina. That actually makes more sense. Does that mean LISA (Gwen's thingy) breaking was part of W&H's master plan too? That's pretty sick of them, to exploit each characters' individual weakness. ;D I still don't get how Spike and Lorne would know about Connor. If anything, that knowledge would only help them... plus Spike is barely a blip on W&H's radar. Or do you mean all vampires and demons as a specie were made aware of Connor, but humans like Kate weren't? Thanks for answering these questions, btw. W&H made Spike know about Connor to lead Spike and Connor down the path they journeyed: becoming friends and working together. Alll part of changing/punishing/manipulating Angel.
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May 7, 2009 11:10:22 GMT -5
Post by AndrewCrossett on May 7, 2009 11:10:22 GMT -5
In ATF #10, when Betta George makes psychic contact with Beck at the Mosaic Center (that was her, right?) who were the two demonic-looking personages with her? Are they from another comic I haven't read yet? They seemed too interesting to just be background dressing.
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May 7, 2009 11:19:26 GMT -5
Post by Brian Lynch on May 7, 2009 11:19:26 GMT -5
In ATF #10, when Betta George makes psychic contact with Beck at the Mosaic Center (that was her, right?) who were the two demonic-looking personages with her? Are they from another comic I haven't read yet? They seemed too interesting to just be background dressing. They were just patients at Mosaic. Glad you liked'em though!
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