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Post by Angel Beast on Feb 2, 2010 11:32:53 GMT -5
As for characters with other personalities: Anya is Anyanka just minus powers. Angelus is Angel's other personality and Angel can be considered a more mature Liam. Giles and Ripper would fall into this category. And obviously Illyria wouldn't go with Fred because we know Illyria has another from.
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Post by Talkie Toaster on Feb 2, 2010 12:05:01 GMT -5
As for characters with other personalities: Angelus is Angel's other personality and Angel can be considered a more mature Liam. Giles and Ripper would fall into this category. And obviously Illyria wouldn't go with Fred because we know Illyria has another from. 'through the looking glass" I have to disagree that Angelus is Angels other personality, Angelus is the demon Angel is the person Just as Illyria is the demon and Fred is/was the person. Loot at angel episode 'through the looking glass' we know what the demon in angel looks like in it's truest form:
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Feb 2, 2010 12:12:01 GMT -5
I kinda figure
Angel: demon+soul+personality Angelus: demon+personality Illyria: A God living in Fred's body and having her personality affected by Fred's memories.
The Angel/Angelus person could be compared to a personlity disorder. They're the same person, but when adding or removing the soul, you get a new personality.
I claim Illyria.
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Post by Talkie Toaster on Feb 2, 2010 12:34:02 GMT -5
I kinda figure Angel: demon+soul+personality Angelus: demon+personality Illyria: A God living in Fred's body and having her personality affected by Fred's memories. The Angel/Angelus person could be compared to a personlity disorder. They're the same person, but when adding or removing the soul, you get a new personality. I claim Illyria.ah, but one could argue that the soul IS the person and that without the soul Angel is just the vessel for the demon where when he has a soul the demon is there but has no real power/effect on his personality apart from (along the lines you stated with Illyria) the memories of all Angelus's Victims.
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Post by SpikeObsessed on Feb 2, 2010 13:44:31 GMT -5
Well, since Spike is taken I'd like to claim William the Bloody.
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Post by El Diablo Robotico on Feb 2, 2010 14:55:52 GMT -5
I kinda figure Angel: demon+soul+personality Angelus: demon+personality Illyria: A God living in Fred's body and having her personality affected by Fred's memories. The Angel/Angelus person could be compared to a personlity disorder. They're the same person, but when adding or removing the soul, you get a new personality. I claim Illyria.ah, but one could argue that the soul IS the person and that without the soul Angel is just the vessel for the demon where when he has a soul the demon is there but has no real power/effect on his personality apart from (along the lines you stated with Illyria) the memories of all Angelus's Victims. I'm gonna pretend to be a mod here for about 2 seconds (which is probably the max limit I could stand having that thankless job--hat's off to all you real mods ) and say that if you wanna continue the Angel/Angelus debate, this thread is probably the better place to do it: forum.slayalive.com/index.cgi?board=ats&action=display&thread=6472&page=2
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Post by Angel Beast on Feb 2, 2010 15:53:38 GMT -5
As for characters with other personalities: Angelus is Angel's other personality and Angel can be considered a more mature Liam. Giles and Ripper would fall into this category. And obviously Illyria wouldn't go with Fred because we know Illyria has another from. 'through the looking glass" I have to disagree that Angelus is Angels other personality, Angelus is the demon Angel is the person Just as Illyria is the demon and Fred is/was the person. Loot at angel episode 'through the looking glass' we know what the demon in angel looks like in it's truest form: Angel and Angelus are split personalities. Without the soul the demon could care less what it does and who it hurts. With a soul it has restraint and gives Angel a conscience, he has remorse and gilt. Angel and Angelus are the same person. Pltrz Glrb just amplified Angel's demon form bringing him close to the Master's appearance.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Feb 2, 2010 17:09:47 GMT -5
You're absolutely right, El Diablo Robotico. I just can't help myself. I always wanna give my 2 cents. I'm pushy that way.
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Post by VampSlayer on Feb 2, 2010 17:49:52 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree that Fred and Illyria are separate characters. As for Angel and Angelus... Not too sure. I know the two personalities are different in so many ways, but really, Angel is just Angelus with a soul, if you ask me.
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Post by PJ on Feb 2, 2010 18:35:05 GMT -5
I claim Claire Saunders!
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Post by VampSlayer on Feb 2, 2010 19:38:57 GMT -5
I was wondering when Claire would get snatched up! ;D
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Post by buffyfan21 on Feb 2, 2010 19:44:51 GMT -5
I claim Kaylee!
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Post by Eric on Feb 2, 2010 23:28:50 GMT -5
This is kind of why I decided to consider them the same character to begin with, it can get complicated and can be argued either way. Well, since Spike is taken I'd like to claim William the Bloody. Were you joking or are you referring to Spike when he was human? Right now I'm considering them more or less the same character, but that may change. Anyway, Sky, PJ, and buffyfan, your claims have been added. PJ, your claim made me think about something I hadn't for the thread, dolls vs. their personalities. I think for now I'm going to put them as "doll name / original or prominent personality". This means your claim is under "Whiskey / Claire Saunders". Sound good? I updated the rules with stuff. I really do want the rules to be fair and easy to understand (mostly the alternate character stuff), so if you have any comments, questions or advise, I'd be completely open to it. You can also PM me.
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Post by Talkie Toaster on Feb 3, 2010 1:02:55 GMT -5
Putting that Angel debate aside i still think that Willow and Vamp Willow are two different characters for the sheer fact that they really are two different characters (and that both of their lives/mentalities are completely different also) but that could open a whole can of worms
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Post by CourtneyDax on Feb 3, 2010 1:21:13 GMT -5
I claim Sierra! I'll make a signature for her soon then. I just LOVE Dichen Lachman!
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Post by Eric on Feb 3, 2010 1:56:18 GMT -5
Putting that Angel debate aside i still think that Willow and Vamp Willow are two different characters for the sheer fact that they really are two different characters (and that both of their lives/mentalities are completely different also) but that could open a whole can of worms Well, one point about Vampire Willow is that she existed at the same, in the same universe as regular Willow. I think I will allow some alternate characters, but I'll have to come up with some guide lines so it's fair. Whenever it's done, I'll make sure to reserve Vampire Willow for you. (: I claim Sierra! I'll make a signature for her soon then. I just LOVE Dichen Lachman! Added. I have to agree, Dichen is amazing.
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Post by Faith5byFive on Feb 4, 2010 15:19:45 GMT -5
I wanna claim Angel please can you change it so i can claim Angelus if not does Mr Gordo qualify?
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Post by Erica on Feb 4, 2010 15:33:25 GMT -5
Was gonna claim Captain Hammer....but I'm feeling Firefly-ish right now. Can I claim Simon Tam?
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Post by lyndell on Feb 4, 2010 16:30:41 GMT -5
What about the Buffybot? Can i claim her?!!! if not...I'll claim Joyce. ^_^
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Post by Just Willow on Feb 4, 2010 18:05:53 GMT -5
ack! too late for Willow and Faith. okay,
i claim Daniel "Oz" Osbourne
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