Karl Moline as interior artist for Dark H. Series

[rogue11]

Its true that Angel is going to be taken over by Dark Horse Comics, right?
I feel as though if this happends then who better to do the interior art that karl Moline?
Moline who did the fray series and time of your life arc in buffy season 8 has this cool cartoonish, western comic look to his work and I remember that during season 5 the cast was so colourful and would have looked so cool in Moline's technicolour artwork.
Anybody else agree/ disagree?

[arcaneweirdo]

Hmm, I love Karl Moline but I think his style is a bit too cartoonish for Angel, but I´d love to have him on Willow or the main Buffy title.
I think a more realistic approach would fit better with the dark tone of Angel

[TC]

I would love for Franco Urru to do the art. I think his style fits perfectly with the tone of the Angel series.

Besides, isn't Moline notoriously horrible when it comes to deadlines?

[TannerSaysStuff]

Yeah I'd like him better for Willow or something.
I think it would be cool if they got Eric Powell to do something.

[BlueJay]

I doubt we'll see Urru for any Dark Horse series, but who knows? I don't see why he couldn't/shouldn't. Lord knows he has the fan support.

[rogue11]

cartoonish might not be a bad thing
urru's work was definetly hot in the first 5 or so issues of after the fall but after that he kind of lost my interest.
I think the characters of angel resemble superheroes in each of their own ways. Ilyria and Lorne could be characters from the X-Men or Angel and Spike would fit the whole leather look of the "Ultimate Marvel" universe.
Moline tends to draw characters extremely skinny sometimes but i love the colours and sometimes even the anime-influence behind the work.

[angeliclestat]

I would like a new artist-one that is good at likenesses and can capture the darkness of the Angelverse.

[wenxina]

Moline's stylized work may work for the ANGEL characters just as well as they work for the Buffyverse characters. As long as people are willing to look past likenesses. What I've noticed with IDW's books is that there is a stronger emphasis on likenesses than there is in the Dark Horse books. Barring "Aftermath", that is. And on a personal level, this adherence to likenesses over storytelling leaves me kinda cold. But I know of people who prize likenesses over anything else, so to each his/her own.

I do think there's a legitimacy to concerns about the tone of each of the shows though. ANGEL was always darker, both literally (when your protagonist is a vampire, it's a little hard to film in bright sunlight) and metaphorically (when your protagonist is a man seeking redemption for deeds committed in a past life, it's hard to not be more serious, lest the audience thinks that the redemption issue is not treated with enough gravity). Moline's work does tend towards the cartoony, but cartoony is definitely not the antithesis of serious.
Like you pointed out, colors are an important part of the art presentation. What I've seen so far of Moline's work (not much, I'll admit, only the Buffyverse stuff) is that the color palette used has been very vibrant, which works very well with his dramatic poses, shapes, and dynamic action sequences. But since I haven't seen any of his work colored in more somber tones, it would be hard to determine if Moline's work could lend itself well to a darker palette.

[henzINNIT]

Nov 1, 2010 11:19:25 GMT -5 rogue11 said:

cartoonish might not be a bad thing
urru's work was definetly hot in the first 5 or so issues of after the fall but after that he kind of lost my interest.

That'll be because he moved on after issue 5. He did return again for the end.

[Smashed]

I think Moline's artwork is too cartoon-y for the Angel series. IMO, Urru was the perfect artist for the series.

[angeliclestat]

Wenxina-I am one of those the prefers realistic likenesses. I just think they are so important in a licenced comic.I can hear the actors say the words better in my head if the drawing I am looking at closely resembles the actor that originally portrayed the character.

Of course likenesses should not come at the expense of story/telling, but s good artist should be able to do both.

For example I do not dislike Jeantys work-he is a fine artist... but atrocious at drawing the characters to look like their on-screen counterparts.Angel is the worst.He has variously looked like Andrew,Edward from Twilight, and a thin cross eyed 17 year old.It's absolutely dreadful. I'm having a hard enough time accepting the storyline as it is, but when the characters don't even look like themselves....it just doesn't work for me.
For Buffy I thought the ideal artist was Cliff Richards-his likenesses were amazing.He even got SMG's nose right lol.

Urru is an amazing artist-very fluid, great story telling, great detail and great at action scenes.But I have always disliked hi likenesses.He got better as he went along but still not what I would like.

So from my point of view in a licenced comic likeness is paramount.I know Koss said he wanted Jeanty to draw the characters and not the actors....but to me that's a load of bullcrap.The actors *are* the characters ( in terms of looks of course lol) and we followed them and the reason I read the comics is to continue with those guys...and not a cartoony version of what the 'character' is.

As always IMO. :-)

[wenxina]

I understand the importance of likenesses. However, I find Jeanty's likenesses just fine. I agree that his Angel's likeness is iffy, but in terms of mannerisms, I feel that Jeanty nails them just fine. But his likenesses for the other characters work for me. He pays just enough attention to their defining features, but is not tied down by them. He's also not afraid to exaggerate certain emotions, to get the point across, but he's also mastered the nuances of the characters so that they're always moving.

I personally detest Cliff Richards' work. It's bland, static, and quite frankly, plain boring. As for his likenesses, they're passable, but unless Buffy is at least 5'8", he tends to Barbie-ize the female characters a tad.

I agree that a good artist should be able to do both likenesses and good storytelling. IMO, Jeanty achieves this admirably. I respect Urru for his non-slavishness to likenesses, despite the fact that I'm personally not a fan of his very heavy linework. But he's the only artist from the IDW line-up that I can get behind.