Question About the Scythe...

[ThatEvilLawFirm]

So Giles went specifically to get the scythe from Faith, apparently to destroy the seed... Does that mean the scythe was the ONLY thing that could destroy the seed? He mentioned at some point that the seed "fuels the scythe" and that he needed it to help Buffy. Personally, I'm just bummed that the scythe was destroyed, I think it is one of the coolest looking weapons ever and I wish they could have broken the seed with some other weapon... Does anybody think there is a chance it will somehow be repaired? Sorry if this has already been brought up somewhere, I didn't see it.

[AndrewCrossett]

It seems like it was implied that the Scythe was the only thing that could destroy it... like a magical self-destruct mechanism. Willow and the others were concerned about "protecting the Seed," which seems like it would have been unnecessary if they had the only weapon that could hurt it. But it may have been much easier for someone to take the Seed away rather than destroy it (which would have ended our world).

Melaka Fray has the Scythe 200 years in the future, which either means Buffy's got repaired, or somebody (Willow?) made another one. I lean toward the latter explanation, because Buffy's and Mel's Scythes were able to exist simultaneously in the same world at the same time. But the Buffyverse has wonky rules when it comes to paradoxes.

[Tyler Austin "tiewashere"]

I always just took it as "we have this right here...let's use it." What else did Buffy have around her in the empty tomb to hit the seed with besides her fist (which was weakened)?

I did always think that the scythe was the only thing that could have broken the seed.

[ThatEvilLawFirm]

Thanks guys! Yeah, that was really bothering me, but you guys shed some light on it. For some reason I had the idea in my mind that the seed was fragile I guess, because when the Master and Buffy are fighting Willow seemed concerned that they were going to harm it in their struggle.

As far as the Fray having the scythe in the future goes... I have this whole theory that Buffy altered the course of history. Willow told Harth her leaving would cause the world to be, and Fray it would cause it to end. My theory is that she caused the world to be by banishing magic when she broke the seed, but caused it to end because she somehow prevented that EXACT future from happening. That's why I think the two scythes existed at the same time, despite Buffy smashing it in the past, because up until the time Buffy went to the Fray future that WAS the future, until she altered it in Last Gleaming, when she broke the seed... Could Fray's world be one where Buffy never broke the seed, and thus the scythe is still intact?

I just hope there is more to go with the story of the scythe, otherwise it feels like a huge gaping whole in the story.

[AndrewCrossett]

Dec 9, 2010 11:36:36 GMT -5 ThatEvilLawFirm said:

Could Fray's world be one where Buffy never broke the seed, and thus the scythe is still intact?

It's interesting, because all we know at the end of ToYL is that Fray's world didn't come undone when Buffy returned to the past... meaning that her actions won't prevent Mel from becoming a Slayer and eventually winding up on that rooftop in Haddyn. But... we only see Mel and Erin on that rooftop, we don't know what might have changed for them in terms of their context and their memories. If their pasts changed because of Buffy's actions, they wouldn't realize it... they'd simply have the new memories as if they were always there.

[ThatEvilLawFirm]

"If their pasts changed because of Buffy's actions, they wouldn't realize it... they'd simply have the new memories as if they were always there."

EXACTLY! The Buffyverse is tricky what with all the memory altering and pocket dimensions...