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Post by wenxina on Apr 4, 2008 10:40:03 GMT -5
I would be happy to see Dawnzilla dispatch the vampires. Since they want to depower slayers, it would be a wise idea to allow a giant to just smash them instead of risking slayers' lives. Plus I am mad at how haughty they act and how they disposed of Aiko! So arrogant! Seems that Willow's power is being played down now, since she clearly was kicked around by that Kumiko broad. I response to an earlier question, about whether we can be sure that Kumiko is a vamp too... I'd say maybe not. But she is hanging out with a vampire gang... plus there's this thing about her wanting the kill... so maybe. As for how they killed Aiko... I mentioned this somewhere before, but it was almost poetic. Aiko is not what I'd call a wilting flower either, and that she got served after her almost arrogant comment was beautifully executed. Let's not forget that the girl fully enjoyed axing demons before, and the life of the slayer is rarely peaceful. As far as deaths go, hers wasn't bad. It was almost noble, going out as a warrior whose Achille's heel was severely clobbered.
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Post by Slayer489 on Apr 4, 2008 11:32:19 GMT -5
I really enjoyed this issue. Although, the beginning bit with Dracula and his beard and white hair? Seriously? Was there any need for the white hair? Butterfield seemed cute and servant-like. The thing about the Albanian boy was funny. The exchanges between Xander and Dracula were SO funny. I loved Renee's "Oh, for the love of God!" Although, I don't believe that Xander and Dracula kept in contact via letters and that Xander willingly went to spend some "guy time" with Dracula. I think Dracula has a crush on Xander which doesn't make sense as in 'Buffy Vs. Dracula" he found Xander "strange and off-putting". Loved the Anya mention! Andrew's scene was good, classic Andrew and the Willow/Satsu chat was nice to see. I don't think Willow fancies Buffy, it's just that she was curious to know how Buffy was in bed. She wouldn't have gotten a point of view of a person who's been on the receiving end of Buffy's action so to speak. I love Aiko! Shame she died. I can't believe a slayer lost her powers?! I was shocked at how they done it. Toru, Raidon and Kumiko all seem lethal! Seriously! And it's nice to know that Kumiko is a witch. And I think she is a vampire as she wanted "the kill". Poor Aiko...She must of been so confused and scared. It all happened so fast. Buffy seemed really moody in this issue. Probably lots of pressure getting on top of her. I hope she gets back to her old self soon, like she did in the last few episodes of season 7, especially "Chosen" with her little "so, what d'you guys wanna do tomorrow?"/"I'm having a wicked shoe craving" conversation. De-slayerising the whole gang? Nice story. Can't wait to see where it goes. I like the theory of Satsu taking the blow for Buffy, but not actually dying in the process. How would she deal with being around all these slayers knowing what she's lost? Would she go home? Finally, the art in this issue was really good! I think it has something to do with the colouring by Michelle Madsen, but it was really great. Likenesses and everything. Anyway, great issue! Bring on part 3!
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Post by deathquaker on Apr 4, 2008 12:59:23 GMT -5
Seems that Willow's power is being played down now, since she clearly was kicked around by that Kumiko broad. That kind of annoyed me, if they are going to big her up as some super power than this Kumiko girl must be mega powerful, untouchable even. If they don't keep that up then I'll be knarcked. I'd say perhaps Willow and Kumiko are similarly powered... remember that Kumiko took Willow by surprise, or the fight may not have gone down as it did. Kumiko could also be a vampire that practices magic--is there anything that says a vampire cannot learn to cast spells? (That's not a rhetorical question--I really don't know). We did see her turn into fog... which is that a Drac-Vamp power only? In which case she may not even be as powerful a witch as Willow, but managed to overpower her temporarily enough that Willow couldn't defend herself very well. Traditionally, you have to concentrate to cast spells, and occasionally incant--the way to beat a spellcaster is hit them hard and fast enough they can't get a chance to finish a spell. That said, Willow survived her initial encounter with Kumiko. Banged up, yes, but if Kumiko was truly more powerful, then she prolly could've killed Willow fairly easily. I'd say on more equal ground Willow would at least have good odds.
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Post by sosa lola on Apr 4, 2008 13:02:56 GMT -5
Although, I don't believe that Xander and Dracula kept in contact via letters and that Xander willingly went to spend some "guy time" with Dracula. Here's a very well written fic that explains it: stormwreath.livejournal.com/45393.html
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Post by El Diablo Robotico on Apr 4, 2008 13:10:07 GMT -5
Very... disappointed. Insubstatntial, as issues go; lots of plot wrapped up in bad comedy. I was never too enamoured with the idea of Drac' being back, and this has only confirmed my fears. Not to mention the fact that he was written completely differently to the way he was in the show. Like I said, I don't think he is being written differently--we're just seeing the side of him behind the super-cool facade he tries to show the world. But even for anyone who doesn't buy that, okay, let's say that he is being written differently. He appeared in ONE episode of the show, and one episode is not enough to firmly cement the way a character has to be portrayed ever after, if it's decided a different way would be better. Case in point: Anya. Look at the way she was portrayed in her few S3 appearances (very human), compared to S4 and later. In Drac's case, he was a dumb, campy character, who wasn't funny at all, and really had no place being included in Buffy's world in the first place. I would actually prefer that he not even have been brought back, but if he was going to make a re-appearance, a little 're-design' of his character was a very good idea. Ok, for real, one last question to pose to you guys: who is the brunette next to (presumably Willow) on the regular cover? Is it Satsu?? If that really is Willow (I guess the hair color says it must be), then I'm gonna go with Buffy as the third figure. Satsu didn't have a big enough role in this one to warrant being on the cover, and Buffy would make the most sense to appear with Xander and Willow--the original three. "But Buffy doesn't have brown hair," you say? Right! But look at Foster's #15 cover: apparently he thinks she does--sometimes, anyway.
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Post by Slayer489 on Apr 4, 2008 13:57:13 GMT -5
Although, I don't believe that Xander and Dracula kept in contact via letters and that Xander willingly went to spend some "guy time" with Dracula. Here's a very well written fic that explains it: stormwreath.livejournal.com/45393.htmlI LOVE that theory. Thank you so much for the link. Xander initially wrote to Dracula because he wanted someone else to grieve for Anya like he does, so he took a shot with Dracula because that was the only person he could think of. Brilliant! Kudos to whoever wrote that!
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Post by barryshaft on Apr 4, 2008 14:12:54 GMT -5
Another good issue. Not exactly my favourite so far in that I just don't think Goddard's voice translates as well to the medium as Whedon and Vaughan's did. But that aside, an absolutely hilarious issue. For one it was pretty much Xander's issue, his conversations with Dracula took up more then half of it and in that aspect of the story I was pretty much bowled over laughing. This has pretty much been the only time I've actually laughed out loud at something in Season 8, but Dracula's racist attitudes mixed with the ridiculous ex-boyfriend vibe to their talk was just killing me. I'm with a lot of people in that clearly it didn't go down the way Andrew said it did, he was just generalising. My guess would be more that Xander, after Anya's death, went after Dracula in some kind of death-wish capcity and simply was put under his thrall. From that though it's clear that Xander does actually have an affinity for Dracula, not one that quite matches Drac's mancrush on him though. I hated Dracula's part on the show, but his role as the out-of-touch comedic rock star of the vampire world is a good role for him and fits in well. This wasn't the Dracula we saw in Season 5, but I'd be willing to bet (though I can't see them ever outright saying it) that this depressed state began with his loss to Buffy. It was also interesting that they gave his powers a little justification, they always bothered me on the show.
Aiko was awesome, I really loved what little we saw of her character but it opens up some cool possibilities. I'd love to see more of these field operatives over the course of the series. Her death was pretty shocking but I think most people saw their scythe plan coming, though I doubt it was really meant to be a shock anyways. This new Vamp Gang is awesome, and how awesome is it that there's actually a Vamp Gang causing trouble again? They seem very cold and I wouldn't be surprised if they're somewhat connected to Twilight as well.
Another interesting bit to the issue was it's portrayal of Buffy. We've seen her distanced before, but it was kind of cool to see just how everyone else is viewing her, the solitary General in the shadows. Interesting is that even Willow doesn't consider herself Buffy's equal anymore, something that may be an offshoot of their somewhat feud, or something that's naturally come from Buffy's larger then life role. We don't see much from Buffy this time around and I liked it that way. She's dealing with a lot and simply shutting herself out. The only real relief she had from her constant pressures (or rather with the one who relieved said pressues, Satsu) has now actually backfired on her. Instead of being the night of meaningless release she intended it to be, everyone has found out about it and she's lost it's sanctuary.
Willow had some good page time this go around as well, and here's where the issue sort of lost me. I completely jive with her talking to Satsu, it was very sweet of her and very in character to want to cushion Satsu's fall. And her being able to relate to another lesbian is something we haven't really seen before (girlfriend's don't count) and it was also kind of nice. What I didn't really get was the "What was Buffy like in bed?" angle. Yes it was funny, made me laugh, but it wasn't really in Willow's character at all. I mean, sure we're all curious sometimes I'm sure about what our close friends' would be like as lovers...but this was sort of weird. I would never buy Willow having a crush on Buffy, especially after all this time, and especially with what's going on between the two of them at this time. So if that's where this issue is heading...then...well I don't know. People comparing it to Xander's feelings...well I don't buy that, we'd seen them very frequently over the course of the show's run and simply saying Willow wasn't voicing them wouldn't really do it for me. Another thing I'm not crazy about on this angle is that last issue Willow was clearly upset by Buffy sleeping with Satsu, turning it comedic so fast didn't really seem to fly either. It's like throwing in false character moments just for the sake of each issue and then reversing it all next time around. Willow's reaction to Buffy's newfound sex-buddy is a lot more complicated then that and I hope they play it as such.
Overall, good stuff, can't wait to see what's going to happen next. Though I think people expecting Dawn to literally go Godzilla through Tokyo are going to be a bit disappointed. The covers very rarely reflect what's actually going on in the issue. I think the Dawn-Zilla covers are simply meant to be a joke on Goddard's Cloverfield script.
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Post by Ethros on Apr 4, 2008 14:24:46 GMT -5
"You know, I really don't remember you being this racist..." lol, great line
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Post by kershmuckit on Apr 4, 2008 14:32:31 GMT -5
Another good issue. Not exactly my favourite so far in that I just don't think Goddard's voice translates as well to the medium as Whedon and Vaughan's did. But that aside, an absolutely hilarious issue. For one it was pretty much Xander's issue, his conversations with Dracula took up more then half of it and in that aspect of the story I was pretty much bowled over laughing. This has pretty much been the only time I've actually laughed out loud at something in Season 8, but Dracula's racist attitudes mixed with the ridiculous ex-boyfriend vibe to their talk was just killing me. I'm with a lot of people in that clearly it didn't go down the way Andrew said it did, he was just generalising. My guess would be more that Xander, after Anya's death, went after Dracula in some kind of death-wish capcity and simply was put under his thrall. From that though it's clear that Xander does actually have an affinity for Dracula, not one that quite matches Drac's mancrush on him though. I hated Dracula's part on the show, but his role as the out-of-touch comedic rock star of the vampire world is a good role for him and fits in well. This wasn't the Dracula we saw in Season 5, but I'd be willing to bet (though I can't see them ever outright saying it) that this depressed state began with his loss to Buffy. It was also interesting that they gave his powers a little justification, they always bothered me on the show. Aiko was awesome, I really loved what little we saw of her character but it opens up some cool possibilities. I'd love to see more of these field operatives over the course of the series. Her death was pretty shocking but I think most people saw their scythe plan coming, though I doubt it was really meant to be a shock anyways. This new Vamp Gang is awesome, and how awesome is it that there's actually a Vamp Gang causing trouble again? They seem very cold and I wouldn't be surprised if they're somewhat connected to Twilight as well. Another interesting bit to the issue was it's portrayal of Buffy. We've seen her distanced before, but it was kind of cool to see just how everyone else is viewing her, the solitary General in the shadows. Interesting is that even Willow doesn't consider herself Buffy's equal anymore, something that may be an offshoot of their somewhat feud, or something that's naturally come from Buffy's larger then life role. We don't see much from Buffy this time around and I liked it that way. She's dealing with a lot and simply shutting herself out. The only real relief she had from her constant pressures (or rather with the one who relieved said pressues, Satsu) has now actually backfired on her. Instead of being the night of meaningless release she intended it to be, everyone has found out about it and she's lost it's sanctuary. Willow had some good page time this go around as well, and here's where the issue sort of lost me. I completely jive with her talking to Satsu, it was very sweet of her and very in character to want to cushion Satsu's fall. And her being able to relate to another lesbian is something we haven't really seen before (girlfriend's don't count) and it was also kind of nice. What I didn't really get was the "What was Buffy like in bed?" angle. Yes it was funny, made me laugh, but it wasn't really in Willow's character at all. I mean, sure we're all curious sometimes I'm sure about what our close friends' would be like as lovers...but this was sort of weird. I would never buy Willow having a crush on Buffy, especially after all this time, and especially with what's going on between the two of them at this time. So if that's where this issue is heading...then...well I don't know. People comparing it to Xander's feelings...well I don't buy that, we'd seen them very frequently over the course of the show's run and simply saying Willow wasn't voicing them wouldn't really do it for me. Another thing I'm not crazy about on this angle is that last issue Willow was clearly upset by Buffy sleeping with Satsu, turning it comedic so fast didn't really seem to fly either. It's like throwing in false character moments just for the sake of each issue and then reversing it all next time around. Willow's reaction to Buffy's newfound sex-buddy is a lot more complicated then that and I hope they play it as such. Overall, good stuff, can't wait to see what's going to happen next. Though I think people expecting Dawn to literally go Godzilla through Tokyo are going to be a bit disappointed. The covers very rarely reflect what's actually going on in the issue. I think the Dawn-Zilla covers are simply meant to be a joke on Goddard's Cloverfield script. Yeah i expected willlow to be more angry about the whole thing, or atlest defensive. The fact she's being so gossipy feels a bit forced seeing how willow has usually been quite uncomfortable when it comes to things concerning her sexuality. Maybe that will come later. Side note, the HGOGA panel, perfecty drawn. ;D I liked this comic n all, but it seems a bit medioca compared to the bit shock of 12. That cant be helped i guesd
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Post by Rebecca on Apr 4, 2008 14:32:36 GMT -5
This wasn't the Dracula we saw in Season 5, but I'd be willing to bet (though I can't see them ever outright saying it) that this depressed state began with his loss to Buffy. His depressed state actually began at the end of Antique (I think there are links to it somewhere around here). After Buffy 'rescued' Xander from Drac's thrall, Drac sat down and became an old man, like the one you see in this issue.
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Post by chronicboredom on Apr 4, 2008 14:45:59 GMT -5
Another good issue. Not exactly my favourite so far in that I just don't think Goddard's voice translates as well to the medium as Whedon and Vaughan's did. But that aside, an absolutely hilarious issue. For one it was pretty much Xander's issue, his conversations with Dracula took up more then half of it and in that aspect of the story I was pretty much bowled over laughing. This has pretty much been the only time I've actually laughed out loud at something in Season 8, but Dracula's racist attitudes mixed with the ridiculous ex-boyfriend vibe to their talk was just killing me. I'm with a lot of people in that clearly it didn't go down the way Andrew said it did, he was just generalising. My guess would be more that Xander, after Anya's death, went after Dracula in some kind of death-wish capcity and simply was put under his thrall. From that though it's clear that Xander does actually have an affinity for Dracula, not one that quite matches Drac's mancrush on him though. I hated Dracula's part on the show, but his role as the out-of-touch comedic rock star of the vampire world is a good role for him and fits in well. This wasn't the Dracula we saw in Season 5, but I'd be willing to bet (though I can't see them ever outright saying it) that this depressed state began with his loss to Buffy. It was also interesting that they gave his powers a little justification, they always bothered me on the show. Aiko was awesome, I really loved what little we saw of her character but it opens up some cool possibilities. I'd love to see more of these field operatives over the course of the series. Her death was pretty shocking but I think most people saw their scythe plan coming, though I doubt it was really meant to be a shock anyways. This new Vamp Gang is awesome, and how awesome is it that there's actually a Vamp Gang causing trouble again? They seem very cold and I wouldn't be surprised if they're somewhat connected to Twilight as well. Another interesting bit to the issue was it's portrayal of Buffy. We've seen her distanced before, but it was kind of cool to see just how everyone else is viewing her, the solitary General in the shadows. Interesting is that even Willow doesn't consider herself Buffy's equal anymore, something that may be an offshoot of their somewhat feud, or something that's naturally come from Buffy's larger then life role. We don't see much from Buffy this time around and I liked it that way. She's dealing with a lot and simply shutting herself out. The only real relief she had from her constant pressures (or rather with the one who relieved said pressues, Satsu) has now actually backfired on her. Instead of being the night of meaningless release she intended it to be, everyone has found out about it and she's lost it's sanctuary. Willow had some good page time this go around as well, and here's where the issue sort of lost me. I completely jive with her talking to Satsu, it was very sweet of her and very in character to want to cushion Satsu's fall. And her being able to relate to another lesbian is something we haven't really seen before (girlfriend's don't count) and it was also kind of nice. What I didn't really get was the "What was Buffy like in bed?" angle. Yes it was funny, made me laugh, but it wasn't really in Willow's character at all. I mean, sure we're all curious sometimes I'm sure about what our close friends' would be like as lovers...but this was sort of weird. I would never buy Willow having a crush on Buffy, especially after all this time, and especially with what's going on between the two of them at this time. So if that's where this issue is heading...then...well I don't know. People comparing it to Xander's feelings...well I don't buy that, we'd seen them very frequently over the course of the show's run and simply saying Willow wasn't voicing them wouldn't really do it for me. Another thing I'm not crazy about on this angle is that last issue Willow was clearly upset by Buffy sleeping with Satsu, turning it comedic so fast didn't really seem to fly either. It's like throwing in false character moments just for the sake of each issue and then reversing it all next time around. Willow's reaction to Buffy's newfound sex-buddy is a lot more complicated then that and I hope they play it as such. Overall, good stuff, can't wait to see what's going to happen next. Though I think people expecting Dawn to literally go Godzilla through Tokyo are going to be a bit disappointed. The covers very rarely reflect what's actually going on in the issue. I think the Dawn-Zilla covers are simply meant to be a joke on Goddard's Cloverfield script. I don't think Willow is exactly angry or upset about Buffy and Satsu, I think it's more that she knows Buffy takes sanctuary in people when she isn't coping (IE Spike). Willow has always been Buffy's best friend and her closest girlfriend (not in a sense of dating but a friend who's a girl lol) so to see her so close with another girl probably stimulated jealously about the friendship not the sex. Also, about Willow joking about Buffy "Was she good", this is typical Willow, joking around to cheer people up and also hide that she is feeling insecure about the situation. Totally in character.
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Post by barryshaft on Apr 4, 2008 14:51:29 GMT -5
This wasn't the Dracula we saw in Season 5, but I'd be willing to bet (though I can't see them ever outright saying it) that this depressed state began with his loss to Buffy. His depressed state actually began at the end of Antique (I think there are links to it somewhere around here). After Buffy 'rescued' Xander from Drac's thrall, Drac sat down and became an old man, like the one you see in this issue. Yes that's where this particular bout has come from, but clearly by Antique he had changed as he was just hanging around his castle essentially moping. The Dracula in Antique isn't the same confidant Dracula from Buffy Vs Dracula. That's what I meant.
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Post by El Diablo Robotico on Apr 4, 2008 15:13:12 GMT -5
...last issue Willow was clearly upset by Buffy sleeping with Satsu... Was she? Are you sure about that? I know that's the assumption everyone made at the time, but if you go back and look, what in that issue clearly points to her being upset, as opposed to just stunned nearly speechless, like everyone else?
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Post by underbuffysspell on Apr 4, 2008 16:25:27 GMT -5
I would be happy to see Dawnzilla dispatch the vampires. Since they want to depower slayers, it would be a wise idea to allow a giant to just smash them instead of risking slayers' lives. Plus I am mad at how haughty they act and how they disposed of Aiko! So arrogant! Seems that Willow's power is being played down now, since she clearly was kicked around by that Kumiko broad. I sorta think that they way they, to be blunt, disposed of Aiko was to show how ruthless and brutal. I wanted to get to know Aiko's character, but I think it worked. As for the slayer thing...I kind of feel that there should only be two. Buffy and Faith. I'm not enjoying this whole sharing thing. I mean she is just acting bossy...it's sorta pulling away from her witty comments I think. About the Willow's powers thing...I'm glad that we're finally being shown that she isn't as invincible as she may think. I was getting pretty irate when she was flying all over the place and was able to fix every little thing. I was also glad to see that Buffy was starting to wear normal clothes again in this arc! It's finally deviating from the military gear, which in my opinion looks sorta tacky. The Buffy I know would never wear that. XD.
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Post by underbuffysspell on Apr 4, 2008 16:28:13 GMT -5
Although I think it would be 'jumping the shark' I think they should make a miniseries like AtF is doing with 'First Night'. It'd be nice to finally know what went on during that year. Because they really can't go into depth and still tell the present storyline within 32 pages.
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Post by CowboyGuy on Apr 4, 2008 16:52:04 GMT -5
I feel it's still too early to tell this depowering slayers story. They haven't done anything yet with the new girls, and I think it's too early to depower them...and to even introduce this idea.
We still have those renegades to deal with, plus who knows what else badness may have come from creating all the slayers.
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Post by wenxina on Apr 4, 2008 17:19:00 GMT -5
I would be happy to see Dawnzilla dispatch the vampires. Since they want to depower slayers, it would be a wise idea to allow a giant to just smash them instead of risking slayers' lives. Plus I am mad at how haughty they act and how they disposed of Aiko! So arrogant! Seems that Willow's power is being played down now, since she clearly was kicked around by that Kumiko broad. I sorta think that they way they, to be blunt, disposed of Aiko was to show how ruthless and brutal. I wanted to get to know Aiko's character, but I think it worked. As for the slayer thing...I kind of feel that there should only be two. Buffy and Faith. I'm not enjoying this whole sharing thing. I mean she is just acting bossy...it's sorta pulling away from her witty comments I think. About the Willow's powers thing...I'm glad that we're finally being shown that she isn't as invincible as she may think. I was getting pretty irate when she was flying all over the place and was able to fix every little thing. I was also glad to see that Buffy was starting to wear normal clothes again in this arc! It's finally deviating from the military gear, which in my opinion looks sorta tacky. The Buffy I know would never wear that. XD. Correction... Buffy has worn the military gear before. In "As You Were" (I think), the ep in S6 that has Riley making an appearance, the lightweight kevlar thing he hands her... it's actually very similar in design to the armor the girls wear on away missions. So the Buffy I know has worn those duds before. As for Willow's nigh invincibility, I think it has been shown before that her ass can be kicked, no matter how powerful she is. In the first arc even. Remember... kinda got conned by Amy the Rat and Warren, no less. She's not invincible, but she has grown into her magic. She no longer fears it as she has seen that there can be good from it. Also, about Buffy. I love witty, fun-loving, shoe sale happy Buffy as much as anyone. But if that's all I liked, then I'd be watching Buffy the Ditzy Cheerleader, not the Vampire Slayer. Woman's a general in an army now... an army of super-soldiers no less. You think you'll get things in line if you just traded hugs and cookies? She's not perfect, bossiness is going to come up. As for just having Buffy and Faith... that dynamic is old hat now. The inclusion of all the new girls allows for some new roles for Buffy, and after the events of "No Future for You", also Faith and Giles. So for now, I'll say that I'm happy with the way things are going, even if I'm not completely sold on the last two issues.
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Post by wenxina on Apr 4, 2008 17:29:21 GMT -5
...last issue Willow was clearly upset by Buffy sleeping with Satsu... Was she? Are you sure about that? I know that's the assumption everyone made at the time, but if you go back and look, what in that issue clearly points to her being upset, as opposed to just stunned nearly speechless, like everyone else? I agree. In retrospect (and I think people should reread the previous issues for continuity's sake), Willow could very well have thought what a lot of people have accused Buffy of doing: using people for the wrong reasons. It could have been that she was mildly disappointed in Buffy's actions. I mean, she has been Buffy's best friend the past 8 years or so. In fact, she's the only one whose been inside Buffy's head TWICE: Once in "Primeval" and the second time in "The Weight of the World". So she's probably really familiar with how Buffy operates. Also, why is it that gay people always have to want to sleep with any member of the same sex? Just because there was an enquiry into how a friend performs between the sheets, does not mean that Willow wants to boink Buffy. Is everyone twelve again when it comes to stereotypes? Also, if you haven't noticed, Willow has only referred to two new slayers by name: Rene and Satsu. It's almost like she's the welcoming committee for new meat into the fold. Her talk with Satsu was almost certainly that, allowing Satsu into the inner sanctum, or at least giving her a preview. As someone who knows Buffy that well, I think it was great that she had that talk.
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Post by wenxina on Apr 4, 2008 17:49:46 GMT -5
Overall, good stuff, can't wait to see what's going to happen next. Though I think people expecting Dawn to literally go Godzilla through Tokyo are going to be a bit disappointed. The covers very rarely reflect what's actually going on in the issue. I think the Dawn-Zilla covers are simply meant to be a joke on Goddard's Cloverfield script. I have to disagree with this statement on the whole. While the regular covers for the first arc weren't really all that connected to the content, I thought that all of Georges covers could be interpreted as abstractions of what goes on between the covers. In fact, some of them could possibly have been unused sketches, namingly #1 and 2. My favorite of the 4 was #3, which has Xander and Willow putting Buffy back together again. Since "The Chain", all the covers, regular and variants have been relevant to the material inside. Georges' variant for "The Chain" is probably his best work in terms of cover work on Buffy Season 8 so far. So, while I'm not all that excited about Dawn-zilla, I think it'll probably come to pass. It's on both covers. Don't take my word for it... but I'll say that pulling a stunt like that and disappointing some rabid fans could be a very dumb thing to do. Just my personal opinion.
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Post by xmadxscientistx on Apr 4, 2008 17:57:10 GMT -5
My one comment: All aboard the Xacula mobile.
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