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Post by AndrewCrossett on Sept 22, 2009 10:18:00 GMT -5
I gave up on the show partway through last season (at the very moment Sylar killed Elle, in fact.) I know vaguely what happened over the rest of the season, but it just was an unwatchable mess, IMO.
I decided to give it one more chance last night, and I thought it was actually pretty good.
With one or two exceptions, the regular characters featured in this ep are the best actors on the show. There was a lot of Claire and Noah, my two favorite (remaining) characters. The setup with the Irish Travellers and their compasses and weird carnival has the potential to be interesting.
To bring this show back to where it needs to be, they need to...
* Shorten the seasons (already done) * Focus on a smaller core of characters * Resolve the Sylar arc this season, one way or another
(And finding a way to bring back Elle wouldn't hurt, either.)
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Post by Hellbound Hyperion on Sept 22, 2009 19:45:41 GMT -5
Just got done watching via Hulu. Wow. Another blow-me-away premiere. I loved: *the setup with the carnival freaks, should be a very good story. And am I imagining things or was that Morgan from Chuck playing the super-fast knives guy? *Claire. She really struck me in this episode(s). And I've been a fan of Claire forever, but she's starting this season mega-strong. *Peter. They've really taken him far in the show, his character has really developed and I'm interested to see where he goes next. *Sylar. Oh boy, Sylar. He's going to torture Matt into insanity, I know it, and then he'll get his body back and more hell will break loose. Still my #1 favorite character of the show. *Ali Larter. I mean, am I imagining things, or is she actually acting now? It seems like such a leap from the Tracey of Volume Four and a huge jump from what she was doing in Season One as Niki. I just hope her character stays interesting. The only thing missing: as much as I'm in the minority, I'm a huge Mohinder fan, and I kinda missed his physical presence in the show. But still, I'm excited. This is going to be an excellent season.
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Post by VampSlayer on Sept 22, 2009 19:48:45 GMT -5
Yes, where was Mohinder?! Did the actor leave the show, or something?! And as for the Chuck guy as knife person(lmao) it isn't him. I've heard people say how much they look alike though. And Ali Larter didn't act as Nikki?! I loved Nikki, still in my top three Heroes characters.
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Post by Hellbound Hyperion on Sept 22, 2009 20:30:22 GMT -5
I don't know, but he's not listed for the next couple of episodes. Can't find any explanation as to why.
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Post by Wyndam on Sept 23, 2009 1:06:01 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the premiere. There were some great character moments and just the simple fact that there wasn't a SINGLE world ending event foreshadowed really made me happy.
Every character really shined in this episode, and each of their stories seem to have a purpose. I am still really excited about Sy-Nate, for two reasons really. One because Nathan is still on the show, since he is my favorite character. Second being that Sylar is more or less restrained, which is always good. There were so many episodes in Season 2 and 3 where Sylar was just bumbling around, so I am glad he is confined for the moment. Where this storyline will end up, and what will ultimately happen to Nathan has me very intrigued, but I like it so far.
Sylar taunting Matt was definitely another highlight, as was the stuff with Noah, Tracey and Peter. This episode showed that Heroes realizes what kind of show it is first and foremost, a drama, and I like that this season seems to be more low key than the others. That will allow the drama and character moments to take center stage, instead of the crazy razzle dazzle of past seasons.
I really hope this strong start continues, the new villains rock (Darth Maul, yay!), the characters are all acting normal, and we have some actual MYSTERY on the show. I am really loving that.
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Post by Hellbound Hyperion on Sept 23, 2009 11:13:59 GMT -5
Agreed with everything you said, WynDAYUM. And yeah, I love the lack of world-ending future - it was starting to get stale anyway.
I am sort of curious about the compass. Why are these carnival guys hunting it down? And is it significant that the compass only responded to Peter and not Noah? Mmm, meaty questions... I hope they don't rush this story, it's already starting really well.
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Post by Wyndam on Sept 23, 2009 11:58:02 GMT -5
My guess is the compass only works when a "Hero" touches it. I believe it was working at the end when the knives guy gave it to Samuel.
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Post by Neil on Sept 23, 2009 13:01:50 GMT -5
@hellbound Hyperion concerning Mohinder. I put it in spoilers, in case of anyone being offended by it.
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Post by Hellbound Hyperion on Sept 23, 2009 13:28:13 GMT -5
@hellbound Hyperion concerning Mohinder. I put it in spoilers, in case of anyone being offended by it. You are my hero. Yay! I was thinking about it earlier and this is exactly what I thought - it makes sense. So excited!
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Post by NoZones on Sept 23, 2009 18:26:26 GMT -5
I don't care all that much about the story anymore. I'm just watching it for the characters.
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Post by Neil on Sept 24, 2009 4:30:19 GMT -5
You´re welcome, Hellbound Hyperion.
I stopped watching after season 2 , 2nd episode, but read spoilers and synopses from time to time and started watching season 4 again. So far so good, though I would like to have some closure for characters like, Monica, Maya or Micah.
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Post by Hellbound Hyperion on Sept 24, 2009 8:30:43 GMT -5
You´re welcome, Hellbound Hyperion. I stopped watching after season 2 , 2nd episode, but read spoilers and synopses from time to time and started watching season 4 again. So far so good, though I would like to have some closure for characters like, Monica, Maya or Micah. Technically, Maya did get closure. But during that time I was really active on a Heroes forum and no one seemed to like her at all, so I don't think anyone will really notice she's gone. She never had a huge role to play anyway. :/ Micah, though, I'd like to see him back. I forgot to mention this: to Tim Kring, thanks for the gratuitous pimping of your other show, it worked, we'll all be watching Crossing Jordan from now on.
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Post by VampSlayer on Sept 24, 2009 20:52:22 GMT -5
You´re welcome, Hellbound Hyperion. I stopped watching after season 2 , 2nd episode, but read spoilers and synopses from time to time and started watching season 4 again. So far so good, though I would like to have some closure for characters like, Monica, Maya or Micah. Well, in the comic series Monica was shown on the flight that crashed with Heroes on it, in Vol. 4. It wasn't said if she lived or not. Micah also appears in the comics a lot.
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Post by Neil on Sept 25, 2009 9:26:24 GMT -5
Thank you guys!
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Post by ●B E N on Sept 26, 2009 18:06:17 GMT -5
I loved the new season premiere! It was very good. I really liked the whole carnival thing.. but i dont like that hiro is messing with the timeline... that never ends well. Also that freaky friend claire made is weird.. theres something special about her... also is it bad that Im glad the roomate died?! She was sooo annoying lol
Oh and I really wish they would bring back micah and monica... maybe tie them into the tracy story line somehow? or maybe make monica go to college with claire?! hmm that could be interesting... Also what the eff ever happened to Molly?! and to the Irish chick Peter lost in the future... lol
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Post by Wyndam on Sept 26, 2009 18:08:44 GMT -5
I'm getting a serious Single White Female vibe from Claire's new friend. Either she is just "into" Claire, which is how the kiss happens, or she might be really INTO Claire in a stalkerish kind of way. Either way, she came across as creepy.
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Post by ●B E N on Sept 26, 2009 18:21:32 GMT -5
I'm getting a serious Single White Female vibe from Claire's new friend. Either she is just "into" Claire, which is how the kiss happens, or she might be really INTO Claire in a stalkerish kind of way. Either way, she came across as creepy. Hahaha yeah I forgot about the 'kiss'. Im thinkin shes totally SWF. lol
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Post by Hellbound Hyperion on Sept 26, 2009 21:50:22 GMT -5
I doubt there's any interest to bring back Monica, she wasn't very popular. Molly was supposed to be part of Volume Four but I guess they never brought it to fruition - her whereabouts were known prior to the beginning of Villains though, and I would like to see her again as well. The Irish chick (Caitlin is her name) is lost to a story and a timeline that should long be forgotten. There were originally plans to have her play a (larger) role in the planned Volume Two/Volume Three combo of Season Two, but because of the writers' strike, plans for S2 were severely cut back, and then Volume Three became Villains and she was just lost to the cosmos.
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Post by snizapman6294 on Sept 27, 2009 22:08:50 GMT -5
i sat down 4 different times to watch the premiere... i got 2/3 of the way through... and either got really bored, or fell asleep... for someone like me with reallly bad adhd, 2 hour premieres are never a good idea...
but i promise by the nexxt episode i will have watched the whole thing... then i will have an opinion...
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Post by Beaumonde on Sept 29, 2009 18:29:38 GMT -5
I gave up on the show partway through last season (at the very moment Sylar killed Elle, in fact.) I know vaguely what happened over the rest of the season, but it just was an unwatchable mess, IMO. I decided to give it one more chance last night, and I thought it was actually pretty good. With one or two exceptions, the regular characters featured in this ep are the best actors on the show. There was a lot of Claire and Noah, my two favorite (remaining) characters. The setup with the Irish Travellers and their compasses and weird carnival has the potential to be interesting. To bring this show back to where it needs to be, they need to... * Shorten the seasons (already done) * Focus on a smaller core of characters * Resolve the Sylar arc this season, one way or another (And finding a way to bring back Elle wouldn't hurt, either.) completely agreed i gave up on Heroes around the same time Elle was killed i just don't find many of the characters very interesting anymore (Elle was the only one) but one day i'll try to sit through season 3, and hopefully the show can redeem itself
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