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Post by hitnrun017 on Mar 24, 2009 20:02:16 GMT -5
Nothing much, but still cool. I wish Georges drew this issue, cause it is a bit random. At least it's just a standalone. I like Richard's art just fine, he gives a good Faith and Giles.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Mar 24, 2009 20:05:12 GMT -5
I don't mind his art in general... can't say that looks much like Faith, though.
I hope this issue throws a little more light on why people trust vampires now. Was this one lying, or have they all gotten the no-kill memo?
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Post by Paul on Mar 24, 2009 20:15:55 GMT -5
Not a big fan of Richards but he's a solid fill-in artist and the colouring here is better than the old Buffy comics. I don't mind his art in general... can't say that looks much like Faith, though. I hope this issue throws a little more light on why people trust vampires now. Was this one lying, or have they all gotten the no-kill memo? I'd assume they all have their own individual agendas. Some vamps probably just feed a little (they like the easy blood without the hassle of hunting) while the eviler ones enjoy gaining people's trust and then killing them. Just a guess though.
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Post by Emmie on Mar 24, 2009 20:24:37 GMT -5
Haha, I'm loving the "Ow" joke there. Great stuff.
"Almost a compliment"? Being mistaken for Buffy most definitely is a compliment. Heh. Especially when you consider that Slayer is saying it in an awed tone like she's just been rescued by a rock star.
I'm okay with the art. I'd say it's a fair enough likeness of Faith there, though the eyes are a bit less 'doe' than one would expect.
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Post by wenxina on Mar 24, 2009 20:37:16 GMT -5
That's pretty much how Richards has always drawn Faith (in the old comics)... less doe-eyed, more kinda lifeless.
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Post by Mathieu on Mar 24, 2009 20:48:50 GMT -5
The artwork is ok I guess... kind of strange. I'm still very excited about this issue. Faith is definitely one of my favorite characters.
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Post by Emmie on Mar 24, 2009 20:51:54 GMT -5
There's something about Faith. The way she speaks, her style of communicating just translates well to the comic medium. It's so distinctive that I can hear Dushku's voice in my head whenever I read it.
Does Faith's personality translate better to the comics than the others?
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Post by Mathieu on Mar 24, 2009 21:16:27 GMT -5
There's something about Faith. The way she speaks, her style of communicating just translates well to the comic medium. It's so distinctive that I can hear Dushku's voice in my head whenever I read it. Does Faith's personality translate better to the comics than the others? Excellent point!! I do think Faith's character translates way better to the comic medium than the others. I too can almost hear Dushku's voice!!
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Post by Emmie on Mar 24, 2009 21:22:20 GMT -5
There's something about Faith. The way she speaks, her style of communicating just translates well to the comic medium. It's so distinctive that I can hear Dushku's voice in my head whenever I read it. Does Faith's personality translate better to the comics than the others? Excellent point!! I do think Faith's character translates way better to the comic medium than the others. I too can almost hear Dushku's voice!! It reminds me of Spike, actually. He's another Buffyverse character whose voice is so strong that it more easily translates to the comic medium.
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Post by patxshand on Mar 24, 2009 21:29:58 GMT -5
I think both comics, Season Eight and Angel (excluding Buffy #20 and Angel #19 and some of 18), have done a great job with basically all of the character's voices. The only voice that gave me a problem was actually Fray's, which is so odd seeing as she was always a comic character. Everyone else has translated exceptionally well.
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Post by Emmie on Mar 24, 2009 21:34:14 GMT -5
I think both comics, Season Eight and Angel (excluding Buffy #20 and Angel #19 and some of 18), have done a great job with basically all of the character's voices. The only voice that gave me a problem was actually Fray's, which is so odd seeing as she was always a comic character. Everyone else has translated exceptionally well. I'm not saying the other characters don't translate "exceptionally well". Just that Spike and Faith's voices are so distinctive that they translate almost seamlessly. That the characters don't suffer as much from the loss of the actors because their way of speaking is so distinctive. Both Spike and Faith have very definitive body language and speech patterns that exemplify their characters strongly. I think in this instance Buffy suffers a bit more because her character relied very much on SMG's subtle facial expressions, especially with her eyes. Spike and Faith are very larger-than-life personalities. And this larger-than-life aspect is right at home in the comic medium. Not saying the other characters don't translate, but that Spike and Faith translate even better.
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Post by Mathieu on Mar 24, 2009 21:38:14 GMT -5
I don't know about Spike's voice as a comic character actually. I haven't gotten a chance to read After the Fall yet, even though I really want to... But you know, bad economy like they say...
Although I can imagine he's very easy to write for. A lot easier than Buffy.
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Post by hitnrun017 on Mar 24, 2009 21:46:34 GMT -5
I agree about Faith translating well. Eliza's voice just flowed through my head with every single line during No Future for You, even with a hint of a terrible British accent. But yeah, mostly every character translates well. The only characters I have major trouble with are Amy and Harmony. The problem with Amy is that her character never had much balance and in Season 8 she is absolutely nothing like she was on the show. And the problem with Harmony is that there is no Mercedes McNab playing her. Her comedic timing and brilliance was no where for me in comic form.
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Post by Tyler Austin "tiewashere" on Mar 24, 2009 21:52:16 GMT -5
I just re-read No Future For You. Wouldn't it be weird if Faith and Giles had an affair? Ha, that'd be something.
Is this issue supposed to move the story along, or just show a little adventure the two have? Hopefully it brings Gile's back into the story.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Mar 24, 2009 22:09:56 GMT -5
This is the episode where Faith and Giles find out just how much trouble the Slayers are in, and then head back to Buffy for a nice session of Shut Up and Listen.
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Post by patxshand on Mar 24, 2009 22:14:28 GMT -5
I'm not saying the other characters don't translate "exceptionally well". Just that Spike and Faith's voices are so distinctive that they translate almost seamlessly. No, I know you weren't saying that. I was just adding my two cents to the topic of voices as a whole, not really commenting on what you were saying. I think that these writers, especially Joss and Brian Lynch and BKV, can make us hear the actors voices is really just exceptional. Speaks both for the strength of the source material and the talent of each individual writer. You know who else have insanely specific ways of speaking, that I hadn't really even noticed THAT much until the comics? Fred and Gunn. Gunn has a surprisingly unique speech pattern, and Fred is just a machine of cuteness and neologisms.
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Post by El Diablo Robotico on Mar 25, 2009 1:53:19 GMT -5
The only time I've seen Richards' stuff before is in S8 #10, and I didn't really care for it. He seemed to have a tendency to put too many lines on the faces--esp. the female faces--that when inked, made them look like they'd been chiseled out of granite. Seriously, Willow and Dawn should not look like they have Spike's cheekbones! With regards to the character's voices, I agree with Pat that the only one in S8 that's really bothered me so far is Mel. It's actually eerily similar to the "Dark Tower" series, where Stephen King took his longest break (7 years) between books 4 and 5, and then came back in books 5 thru 7 with a whole new batch of slang for the main character that was nowhere in sight thru the first 4. It was very jarring. And now the same thing's happened to Mel between "Fray" and ToYL. In AtF, the only one who's voice I don't think was anywhere close was Groo. On the show, he was obviously written originally to be a 2-D caricature, but I think Lynch tried way too hard, and ended up turning him into a caricature of a caricature. Which is why, despite the fact that Groo is one of my all-time favorites, you won't be catching me on the "Savage Sword of the Groosalugg" bandwagon anytime soon. And Emmie, you mentioned Buffy as one character who's had trouble making the transition to the comic format without SMG there to breathe life into her, but I'd add Andrew to that list, too. He had a few lines in WatG where I could hear Tom Lenk's voice clear as day, but for the most part I've had trouble reading his dialogue and really feeling the Andrew-ness of it... Wonder why this slayer in the preview automatically assumed Faith must be Buffy just because she could dust a vampire? Maybe she recognized Giles somehow?
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Post by Mathieu on Mar 25, 2009 4:30:44 GMT -5
Oh yeah! Andrew too! He could be the worse of all actually. I really miss the actor. I feel like many jokes fall flat without Tom Lenk's talent and voice.
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Post by Joe on Mar 25, 2009 5:40:16 GMT -5
This is the episode where Faith and Giles find out just how much trouble the Slayers are in, and then head back to Buffy for a nice session of Shut Up and Listen. The end of this summary must take place in another issue if it is at all true. It was said that Buffy or none of the other main scoobs are in this issue at all.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Mar 25, 2009 6:12:23 GMT -5
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