BlueJay
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Post by BlueJay on Mar 20, 2009 16:08:30 GMT -5
TISH (fan): What was your plan for the extended story arc of Firefly?
WHEDON: A three-season game of Uno. It's best we were cancelled.
I feel that this is an atrocious comment to make. Even if he were just joking, it's just disrespectful to fans. It's like he forgets that at one time, he passionately wanted to get this back on the air or start a film series. Now it's like he doesn't care.
And is it me or does he have this air of neglect when it comes to the Buffyverse franshise. Sure, we have a comic at least, but it's like he's not even trying anymore.
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Post by buffyverseforever on Mar 20, 2009 20:11:16 GMT -5
It was a joke. A bitter,sarcastic joke but definitely a joke. It wasn't a dig at the fans-it was more annoyance that he had all these great plans that he was never going to be able to use so he made light about the whole thing. If he was taking a shot at anybody,it was the people who cancelled Firefly
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Post by trunkstheslayer on Mar 20, 2009 23:22:50 GMT -5
TISH (fan): What was your plan for the extended story arc of Firefly? WHEDON: A three-season game of Uno. It's best we were cancelled. I feel that this is an atrocious comment to make. Even if he were just joking, it's just disrespectful to fans. It's like he forgets that at one time, he passionately wanted to get this back on the air or start a film series. Now it's like he doesn't care. And is it me or does he have this air of neglect when it comes to the Buffyverse franshise. Sure, we have a comic at least, but it's like he's not even trying anymore. It's you. And you're overreacting in a gigantic way. 1-It is CLEARLY a joke 2-It's bitter 3-Joss isn't done with the Verse. It's on hold, but at the very least we have the Shepard's Tale at some point and whatever else. Why would he offer up huge spoilers for what he could end up doing? 4-There's nothing disrespectful here. 5-What in that says he doesn't care? Where? Nothing. Making a bitter comment does just the opposite.
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Post by patxshand on Mar 21, 2009 1:27:42 GMT -5
That isn't at all disrespectful to fans. That was clearly not the intention, and I really never even considered the idea of anyone getting offended by that.
If Joss had the greenlight, he would make Serenity 2 in a heartbeat.
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Post by Secret Scoobie on Mar 21, 2009 2:00:38 GMT -5
Taking into Joss' humour, and love of sarcasm - I don't think it's meant to be disrespectful. Have you ever watched any interviews with the guy, he loves making random comments. He even pretended to be a fan dressing up as himself.
Plus, he loves us. He talks to us, makes things JUST for us (webisodes) and he loves Firefly.
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Post by The Night Lord on May 11, 2009 5:05:29 GMT -5
I don't find it as disrespectful, but this is the same guy who destroyed Cordelia Chase just because Charisma was pregnant. I'm just saying...
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Post by Skeptic on May 30, 2009 23:18:03 GMT -5
Well, I thought it was funny...
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Post by buffyfan21 on Jun 25, 2009 13:28:24 GMT -5
It is part of Joss's nature to be flip and sarcastic. I don't think he meant it in a disrespectful way at all...
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Post by BenTaylor3907 on Jul 17, 2009 19:53:58 GMT -5
I don't find it as disrespectful, but this is the same guy who destroyed Cordelia Chase just because Charisma was pregnant. I'm just saying... WHAT?
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Post by The Night Lord on Jul 17, 2009 19:57:11 GMT -5
I don't find it as disrespectful, but this is the same guy who destroyed Cordelia Chase just because Charisma was pregnant. I'm just saying... WHAT? Just saying how I feel, that's all. I do like the guy for giving us Buffy, Angel and Serenity, but that's it really
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Post by Emmie on Jul 17, 2009 20:08:11 GMT -5
I don't find it as disrespectful, but this is the same guy who destroyed Cordelia Chase just because Charisma was pregnant. I'm just saying... This isn't true though. Whedon and Co. had plans for making Cordelia evil long before they ever knew she was pregnant. That's the whole point of the story. Charisma didn't tell them and they had to scramble to rewrite the last half of the season. Originally the finale was going to have Cordy as the Big Bad that Angel had to fight and defeat. So no, Joss didn't have a tantrum and destory Cordelia Chase because Charisma got pregnant.
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Post by The Night Lord on Jul 17, 2009 20:16:06 GMT -5
Okay, fair enough, but that's how I kinda felt and that's what I thought what happened. I wouldn't have minded Cordelia being evil and having her and Angel do battle at the end, but I seriously didn't like how it all turned out and that's what I thought happened
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Post by Mathieu on Jul 17, 2009 20:49:33 GMT -5
I don't find it as disrespectful, but this is the same guy who destroyed Cordelia Chase just because Charisma was pregnant. I'm just saying... This isn't true though. Whedon and Co. had plans for making Cordelia evil long before they ever knew she was pregnant. That's the whole point of the story. Charisma didn't tell them and they had to scramble to rewrite the last half of the season. Originally the finale was going to have Cordy as the Big Bad that Angel had to fight and defeat. So no, Joss didn't have a tantrum and destory Cordelia Chase because Charisma got pregnant. Everytime we mention what the original plan for Season 4 was before Charsima got pregnant, my heart breaks. It could have been so good.
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Post by Wyndam on Jul 17, 2009 21:10:27 GMT -5
This isn't true though. Whedon and Co. had plans for making Cordelia evil long before they ever knew she was pregnant. That's the whole point of the story. Charisma didn't tell them and they had to scramble to rewrite the last half of the season. Originally the finale was going to have Cordy as the Big Bad that Angel had to fight and defeat. So no, Joss didn't have a tantrum and destory Cordelia Chase because Charisma got pregnant. Everytime we mention what the original plan for Season 4 was before Charsima got pregnant, my heart breaks. It could have been so good. It WAS so good.
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Post by Mathieu on Jul 17, 2009 21:19:05 GMT -5
Everytime we mention what the original plan for Season 4 was before Charsima got pregnant, my heart breaks. It could have been so good. It WAS so good. I didn't know there were Season 4 fans out there! There were some very good parts, but it could have been better handled if they hadn't had to deal with Cordy's forced pregnancy.
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Post by Wyndam on Jul 17, 2009 21:22:15 GMT -5
Season 4 is just like Season 6 of Buffy. There are just as many fans as their are non-fans.
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Post by Mathieu on Jul 17, 2009 21:29:09 GMT -5
Season 4 is just like Season 6 of Buffy. There are just as many fans as their are non-fans. I see Season 6 of Buffy as controversial. They took the series to dark/disturbing places, but overall the drama they built up was pretty damn good. I see Season 4 of Ats as flawed. It had potential for awesomeness but it had too mnay plot holes in my opinion. You can tell they came up with rushed ideas as they went along.
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Post by Emmie on Jul 17, 2009 22:24:45 GMT -5
I'm a fan of Season 4! I'm not a fan of the Cordy/Connor, but I still find the episodes gripping and who can beat the story once Faith arrives on the scene?
There are some low moments but also some really great ones too. Spin the Bottle, Apocalypse Nowish, Habeas Corpus, the Faith episodes, the Magic Bullet, Home. So many great episodes here.
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Post by Wyndam on Jul 17, 2009 22:29:35 GMT -5
Soulless is also another favorite, as are the first few episodes. I really love the whole season. Jasmine episodes are the only real dip in quality, imo, but she is still a fun and interesting baddie. Cordy and Connor will always be weird, but I got past that a long time ago.
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Post by The Night Lord on Jul 17, 2009 22:40:22 GMT -5
I've only been into the whole series for two years now, so the whole Cordy/Connor thing still creeps me out. But I did take the original idea for season 4 and used it for my own fic, so I'm happy there lol
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