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Post by buffystar on Apr 26, 2009 20:57:18 GMT -5
Are the following Buffy comics/novels considered canon in the Buffyverse?
-Tales of the Slayers: Broken Bottle of Djinn (I ask this because it involves Buffy).
-Viva Las Buffy
-Slayer, Interrupted
-A Stake to the Heart
-Spike & Dru: All's Fair
-False Memories (I ask this because the Slayer, Yuki is seen in Season 8, The Chain and also TOTS: Tales).
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Post by Smashed on Apr 26, 2009 21:56:44 GMT -5
"Tales..." is the only one of those.
None of the rest are.
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Post by Paul on Apr 26, 2009 23:02:50 GMT -5
Broken Bottle of Djinn is the only story that's officially canon (not to mention the only canon story I don't own... damn you Dark Horse for not including it in the trade!!  ) The Year One stories and False Memories aren't canon, but events and characters from them are referenced in canonical stories. So it's safe to assume that those events "happened" in some form in the Buffyverse, but you can't take the stories themselves as definitive canonical works. For example, we know Buffy spent time in a mental institution, but it might not have happened exactly how Slayer, Interrupted portrays it. Not really sure why you included All's Fair in the list. That has no connection to canon as far as I know. 
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Post by BlueJay on May 16, 2009 16:16:30 GMT -5
I consider A Stake to the Heart canon.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on May 16, 2009 16:40:39 GMT -5
Really? Why?
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Post by Ethros on May 24, 2009 15:42:39 GMT -5
Viva Las Buffy definitely isn't, as for one it has Angel siring a human. The later ep "We Why Fight" established he had only done this once with a soul, in 1943
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on May 29, 2009 18:33:12 GMT -5
Viva Las Buffy definitely isn't, as for one it has Angel siring a human. The later ep "We Why Fight" established he had only done this once with a soul, in 1943 He could have been lying.  |
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Post by Hellbound Hyperion on Jun 12, 2009 1:11:28 GMT -5
Viva Las Buffy definitely isn't, as for one it has Angel siring a human. The later ep "We Why Fight" established he had only done this once with a soul, in 1943 He could have been lying. I doubt Angel would lie about something like that. He spent most of the 20th century brooding anyway.  |
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Post by BlueJay on Aug 8, 2009 14:31:58 GMT -5
I consider the events of Origin, Viva las Buffy!, Slayer, Interrupted, and A Stake to the Heart canon because they don't contradict anything. Plus, the stories are good and are a satisfying build up to the very first Buffy episode.
Also, on the very last page of the A Stake to the Heart TPB, Scott Allie wrote:
A Stake to the Heart, the last story in the five-year Buffy monthly series, was one of the most unique collaborations between cover artist and writer that I've been a part of, and one of the most surreal stories in the Buffy the Vampire Slayer canon.
Plus, I just LOVE A Stake to the Heart, so I definitely take it as canon. And because it's a sequel to Slayer, Interrupted and Viva las Buffy!, those have to be canon too. And Joss already confirmed that Origin can be accepted as canon.
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Post by patxshand on Aug 8, 2009 19:32:56 GMT -5
Also, on the very last page of the A Stake to the Heart TPB, Scott Allie wrote: A Stake to the Heart, the last story in the five-year Buffy monthly series, was one of the most unique collaborations between cover artist and writer that I've been a part of, and one of the most surreal stories in the Buffy the Vampire Slayer canon. Canon, in that sense, means collection of stories. Scott Allie wouldn't call the story itself canonical, as he just recently said that nothing but Season Eight is canon (though he likely meant under the Buffy title, and probably should have specificed that TALES and FRAY are canon, because they obviously are). But Origin has nothing to do with the rest of those stories. They were done way after Origin and by different writers. |
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Post by BlueJay on Aug 24, 2009 18:02:00 GMT -5
Also, on the very last page of the A Stake to the Heart TPB, Scott Allie wrote: A Stake to the Heart, the last story in the five-year Buffy monthly series, was one of the most unique collaborations between cover artist and writer that I've been a part of, and one of the most surreal stories in the Buffy the Vampire Slayer canon. Canon, in that sense, means collection of stories. Scott Allie wouldn't call the story itself canonical, as he just recently said that nothing but Season Eight is canon (though he likely meant under the Buffy title, and probably should have specificed that TALES and FRAY are canon, because they obviously are). But Origin has nothing to do with the rest of those stories. They were done way after Origin and by different writers. I know that Origin was done by different people, but Viva Las Buffy was designed to be the sequel to it. And like I said, they don't really contradict anything, so I like to think of them as canon. The artwork and writing is good. Besides, I doubt that Joss is gonna go back and tell us "what really happened" before the TV show. |
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Post by jellymoff on Aug 24, 2009 18:10:35 GMT -5
Canon, in that sense, means collection of stories. Scott Allie wouldn't call the story itself canonical, as he just recently said that nothing but Season Eight is canon (though he likely meant under the Buffy title, and probably should have specificed that TALES and FRAY are canon, because they obviously are). But Origin has nothing to do with the rest of those stories. They were done way after Origin and by different writers. I know that Origin was done by different people, but Viva Las Buffy was designed to be the sequel to it. And like I said, they don't really contradict anything, so I like to think of them as canon. The artwork and writing is good. Besides, I doubt that Joss is gonna go back and tell us "what really happened" before the TV show. This is where we get in to the never-ending argument again. "I like to think of them as canon". While of course you have every right to consider these stories as part of your personal Buffy story, they are not and will never be canon. Canon is something that is decided by only 1 person: Joss Whedon. If it is not part of Joss' official story, then it is not canon. |
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Post by BlueJay on Aug 25, 2009 10:29:22 GMT -5
Merr.
I'll find out then. *goes to California*
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Post by Jsebold87 on Aug 28, 2009 9:05:28 GMT -5
One book I'd like to be canon is "Go Ask Malice", very interesting take on Faith, and very well done.
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Post by Josh on Oct 8, 2010 16:59:00 GMT -5
Although it's not official canon I liked to think of Slayer, Interrupted as such because it clears up confusion that Normal Again brings up with why it was never mentioned previously. Dawn changed things.
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