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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Nov 22, 2010 19:19:56 GMT -5
The simple truth is that a reboot is completely unnecessary when the current franchise is still popular. It could be the best movie ever made, but that won't change the fact that there's no logistic reasoning for its existence. That makes no sense to me. If it's the best movie ever, there's plenty reason for it to exist.
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Post by Jordan on Nov 22, 2010 19:22:04 GMT -5
The studio isn't going to create its own 'Buffy' because Hollywood is currently reboot and remake-obsessed and established franchises instantly attract the masses thanks to brand recognition and fans. New IP seems to be turning into a rarer and rarer commodity in almost every medium these days, it seems. Everyone has the unoriginality bug.
Perhaps what irks me the most is that now it's basically impossible to ever see the characters we know portrayed by the actors we love on screen ever again. Not that it was all that likely to begin with, but it was always nice to have at least a sliver of hope. But nope, it's on to the next phase, the suits have decided. It just wouldn't do to have "those older people" impinging on the name passed on to the "new blood."
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Post by Eric on Nov 22, 2010 19:29:32 GMT -5
Perhaps what irks me the most is that now it's basically impossible to ever see the characters we know portrayed by the actors we love on screen ever again. Not that it was all that likely to begin with, but it was always nice to have at least a sliver of hope. But nope, it's on to the next phase, the suits have decided. It just wouldn't do to have "those older people" impinging on the name passed on to the "new blood." Exactly! This reboot kills all hope for anything live action with the old cast. Ripper and the Spike movie were certainly longshots, but they weren't out of the realm of possibility. Now they'll never get off the ground. In spite of my anger and frustration, I must admit, it's kinda fitting. For the next slayer to be call, the old one has to die. The simple truth is that a reboot is completely unnecessary when the current franchise is still popular. It could be the best movie ever made, but that won't change the fact that there's no logistic reasoning for its existence. That makes no sense to me. If it's the best movie ever, there's plenty reason for it to exist. I think what he was trying to say was that we have no way of knowing what the film will be like, but it's unnecessary to reboot the franchise when it's still popular. Sometimes, reboots are necessary because the general public isn't familiar with the continuity of the franchise, but that isn't the case with Buffy.
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Post by Iceeh★ on Nov 22, 2010 19:55:11 GMT -5
Another fandom that I'm a part of recently had a crappy movie remake (oh Shamallama, if you make a second one...), and the fans are getting along fine now. No viewpoints of the original series were changed. Hell, it made new people want to watch the original series. I can see the same thing happening with this reboot.
So, I think we should wait, and not make judgments until we actually see the movie. It could be amazing, or not, who knows?
Nuffy is a fantastic name, by the way.
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Post by Angel Beast on Nov 22, 2010 20:01:37 GMT -5
I welcome it as long as it is taken seriously which it seems to be.
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Post by richie on Nov 22, 2010 20:08:42 GMT -5
no no no no it just seems wrong in all the levels.... buffy is buffy, buffy is joss... i can someday in a drug induced nightmare think about have buffy without the original menbers... but without joss? no F way.... ijust cant
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Nov 22, 2010 20:09:00 GMT -5
Perhaps what irks me the most is that now it's basically impossible to ever see the characters we know portrayed by the actors we love on screen ever again. Not that it was all that likely to begin with, but it was always nice to have at least a sliver of hope. But nope, it's on to the next phase, the suits have decided. It just wouldn't do to have "those older people" impinging on the name passed on to the "new blood." Exactly! This reboot kills all hope for anything live action with the old cast. Ripper and the Spike movie were certainly longshots, but they weren't out of the realm of possibility. Now they'll never get off the ground. Couldn't it be the opposite? If the movie goes well, someone might actually think "Huh, a Ripper movie might work." True, if the movie goes badly, people might want to invest even less, but since Ripper or Spike movies don't seem to be happening, ever, why not chance it? The hope seems pretty much useless anyway.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Nov 22, 2010 20:18:15 GMT -5
I can't continue to discuss this.
Sorry.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Nov 22, 2010 20:19:54 GMT -5
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Post by lightandmagic on Nov 22, 2010 20:20:18 GMT -5
Well the recent news that the screenwriter or whoever she is is a massive fan of Buffy and followed the show as it was on air is promising. I think we Whedon fans are way too protective over Buffy, thinking Joss can only do it justice. I feel that if someone is starting a reboot, re-imagining the series in some way, but have love, respect, admiration etc. for the the television show why not give it a chance? I like to think of it akin to Abrams' Star Trek movie reboot. It was made by people who loved the original and wished to recreate it, and it turned out pretty good. I mean perhaps it's a bit too soon considering the series ended less than a decade ago but overall, I'm going to hold out judgement until I hear more about it.
Frankly, with the absolutely-abysmally awful convoluted mess that is 'season 8' I feel that perhaps someone new would be a good thing to keep my personal memory of Buffy positive.
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Post by Randi Giles on Nov 22, 2010 20:20:20 GMT -5
I can't continue to discuss this. Sorry. ...but you're the Master Debater.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Nov 22, 2010 20:21:55 GMT -5
That is his genuine reply.
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Post by Eric on Nov 22, 2010 20:28:12 GMT -5
Couldn't it be the opposite? If the movie goes well, someone might actually think "Huh, a Ripper movie might work." True, if the movie goes badly, people might want to invest even less, but since Ripper or Spike movies don't seem to be happening, ever, why not chance it? The hope seems pretty much useless anyway. I really don't see the industry wanting to go back to the continuity of Joss' Buffyverse if they're rebooting it, especially if the reboot is a success. Otherwise, what would be the point of a reboot? I loved that. I'm 100% against this reboot, but I'm happy to see Joss has a sense of humor about it.
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Post by BuffyFanOne on Nov 22, 2010 20:35:26 GMT -5
I can say that I am skeptical at best but I am not completely closed off to the idea! I will give it a chance. I might not be happy about it but I will at the very least go and see it before I pass complete and total judgement on it.
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Post by wenxina on Nov 22, 2010 20:36:07 GMT -5
Exactly! This reboot kills all hope for anything live action with the old cast. Ripper and the Spike movie were certainly longshots, but they weren't out of the realm of possibility. Now they'll never get off the ground. Couldn't it be the opposite? If the movie goes well, someone might actually think "Huh, a Ripper movie might work." True, if the movie goes badly, people might want to invest even less, but since Ripper or Spike movies don't seem to be happening, ever, why not chance it? The hope seems pretty much useless anyway. No, actually that's just wishful thinking. If the movie does well (financially; the critical mess that was Twilight and Underworld didn't stop the sequels from being made) then it just means that sequels to the reboot will be made. Splitting continuity (which will happen, since apparently they technically can't use anything that wasn't there in the 1992 movie) makes absolutely no sense at all. I'll sit on the fence on this matter. I'll read Rotten Tomatoes and see what the general consensus is. If the rating is over 60% (generous, I know), I may check it out in the theaters.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Nov 22, 2010 20:40:00 GMT -5
*reading people's comment on whedonesque*
Okay, I accept it was real. I just thought it was someone making fun off us. It's just such a ... bitter? letter. Never read him be so disapointed with the other reboot, or the motion comic. I was thrown off.
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Post by Eric on Nov 22, 2010 21:03:36 GMT -5
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Post by BuffyFanOne on Nov 22, 2010 21:05:49 GMT -5
I actually took it as a semi-positive response...not bitter. To me, he is saying that it is what it is. Especially the part about Avengers. I thought he was saying that it is ok to use other peoples source material to frame your own story...maybe I was just being too glass half full lol
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Post by Danner on Nov 22, 2010 21:11:05 GMT -5
Another fandom that I'm a part of recently had a crappy movie remake (oh Shamallama, if you make a second one...), and the fans are getting along fine now. No viewpoints of the original series were changed. Hell, it made new people want to watch the original series. I can see the same thing happening with this reboot. So, I think we should wait, and not make judgments until we actually see the movie. It could be amazing, or not, who knows? Nuffy is a fantastic name, by the way. Damn you and your rationality. I was just getting all worked up, and now I'm chilling out a bit. xD I'm inclined to say that I agree. If it rocks, it rocks. If it sucks, it sucks. I do feel a bit bad for Joss, though.
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Post by BuffyFanOne on Nov 22, 2010 21:44:47 GMT -5
What fandom are you speaking of with the crappy remake?
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