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Post by CowboyGuy on Jan 16, 2008 6:05:37 GMT -5
I don't think preview pages were released for this one. I'm not sure though...anyway it'll be out and we'll be talking right away!
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Slayer489
Wise-cracking Techno Genius
"Why do I feel like this? Why do I let Spike do those things to me?" - Buffy 'Dead Things'[Mo0:0]
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Post by Slayer489 on Jan 16, 2008 11:47:55 GMT -5
I called my comic shop and they have them in now. Although unfortunately I won't be able to get it until Friday.
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Post by hitnrun017 on Jan 16, 2008 16:58:45 GMT -5
I'm going to leave to pick it up in about an hour! I can't wait! I hear the last page reveal is VERY exciting.
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Post by CowboyGuy on Jan 16, 2008 18:29:25 GMT -5
OMG! Biggest reveal in Buffyverse history!! I'm SOOOOOO intrigued now! I wonder what this means?!?!?! Scroll down for the spoiler of my life!
Angel is human now. Shanshu....happened.
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Post by hitnrun017 on Jan 16, 2008 19:13:49 GMT -5
MEGA-SPOILERS! PLEASE DON"T READ IF YOU HAVEN"T READ THE ISSUE!
I can't believe it either. I was expecting some old character on the last page for the reveal, and when I saw Angel, the first thing that popped in my mind was "Wow, he's challenging them all, but where's the reveal?"....
...But when I read the it.... I can't even put into words. I think I died for a second then came back. Angel human. ANNNGGGEEELLLLL HUMAN.
This was easily the best issue yet. One thing I'm wondering, during Angel's flashback's and weirdness in the first couple issues, was that him getting Shanshued? That's my guess. And OH how I love Illyria, can't wait for more of her. I love how Spike's secretly doing the hero thing too, but I feel bad for Angel about the whole Connor thing.
I really loved the art this issue. A lot less abstract. And thank you Brian! This was just AMAZING. REALLY can't wait for the next issue.
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Post by roguewarrior on Jan 16, 2008 19:23:30 GMT -5
Angel is human now. Shanshu....happened. WOW..... Really?
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Post by CowboyGuy on Jan 16, 2008 19:24:05 GMT -5
I have so many questions now! Like when did it actually happen...how can he still fight, etc? Did he get to keep his strength? Does Wolfram & Hart know? Do they still own him now that he is human? WHAT WILL BUFFY SAY?!!
Lastly, I hope this sticks. I want him to stay human. If he goes back to "vampire cursed with a soul" that would be a waste!
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Post by hitnrun017 on Jan 16, 2008 19:26:04 GMT -5
I think he got Shanshued during his fight with Illyria. He was going through all kinds of things. Baby, Liam, Puppet, Future... I think in those moments he was becoming human.
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Post by CowboyGuy on Jan 16, 2008 20:36:05 GMT -5
True. This is crazy and unexpected.
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Post by hitnrun017 on Jan 16, 2008 20:42:17 GMT -5
Very. Never saw it coming, Now the question is HOW did it happen? Angel signed it away during Not Fade Away... Maybe Gunn has something to do with it. It could be part of his plan, maybe he wants to make Angel weaker so it's easier to kill him. Or maybe he wants turn him.
I also got say how cool it was to see Teeth from Tabula Rasa. And also the cloaked guy from Enemies.
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Post by CowboyGuy on Jan 16, 2008 20:44:33 GMT -5
I know! This issue was the best yet. I'm really getting into it now. Same thing with Season 8...took a few issues to get invested.
I think we should get a transcript up. Or a summary.
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Post by hitnrun017 on Jan 16, 2008 21:55:54 GMT -5
I had a really hard time getting this issue. The comic shop's shipment that I usually go to got damaged, so I had to drive 30 minutes to the not fun comic shop where they were sold out except for the un-colored Franco Urro variant, which I payed an extra $5 for. It's pretty cool, but getting it was way too complicated.
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General Zod
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Post by General Zod on Jan 16, 2008 23:07:52 GMT -5
I kinda hope it doesn't stick. It defeats the purpose of the story.
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Post by sagewoman on Jan 17, 2008 0:11:09 GMT -5
I'm not so sure that Angel was Shanshued - Could it be a Wolfram & Hart twist - they have taken away Angel's vampirism which limits his ability to heal and perhaps thought it would keep him in line since he can be mortally wounded. Of course, Angel isn't one to back down from a challenge. I think it is WRH's way of mixing things up to make it interesting for them to watch. There are some hints in the letters column - worth reading and dissecting.
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juniorwatcher
Potential Slayer
There's that word again, what you are, how you'll die...alone. - The First[Mo0:0]
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Post by juniorwatcher on Jan 19, 2008 1:32:15 GMT -5
OMG this issue was really confusing. Angel's not a vampire, then wth is he?!
Connor and Spike are partners...
And the Illyria time jumps were more confusing than the past/future visions in the buffy season 8 issue "anywhere but here".
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Post by CowboyGuy on Jan 19, 2008 2:04:39 GMT -5
I'm semi-confused too.
I'll bet that as the issues come, things will clear up more. He must be some sort of super-powered-guy. Maybe something like Connor? I'll bet Wolfram & Hart have something to do with this.
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Post by buffysmglover on Jan 19, 2008 10:37:49 GMT -5
I think he got Shanshued during his fight with Illyria. He was going through all kinds of things. Baby, Liam, Puppet, Future... I think in those moments he was becoming human. \ That wasn't him being Shanshued, that was her instability causing them to go through so many different times/dimensions.
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Post by hitnrun017 on Jan 19, 2008 12:41:52 GMT -5
I think he got Shanshued during his fight with Illyria. He was going through all kinds of things. Baby, Liam, Puppet, Future... I think in those moments he was becoming human. \ That wasn't him being Shanshued, that was her instability causing them to go through so many different times/dimensions. Ah I see. Thanks for clearing that up! And also, yesterday I watched Offspring and got a refreasher on the Shanshu Prophecy. It's meaning being to live and to die. The vampire in him is dead, and the human in him gets to live. And now that he isn't a vampire.... Maybe Wesley missed something about Angel keeping his supernatural strength, or maybe it doesn't even have anything to do with the Shanshu and I'm going on about nothing.
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Post by buffysmglover on Jan 19, 2008 16:36:59 GMT -5
Maybe W&H is supplying him with his strength?
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juniorwatcher
Potential Slayer
There's that word again, what you are, how you'll die...alone. - The First[Mo0:0]
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Post by juniorwatcher on Jan 19, 2008 20:17:52 GMT -5
Where the hell are The Powers for that point? Maybe it's the PTB not Wolfram and Hart that supply him with strength.
Wy aren't The Powers that sit on their Be-Hinds helpin' out? Or maybe they are...
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