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Post by vortigun on Nov 16, 2008 8:51:55 GMT -5
I am quite confused about this... is Kelly writing with with Lynch? I remember in an interview her saying something along the lines of 'it is canonical if you want it to be'... which isn't really what canonical means...
Has Joss said anything specific on this yet?
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Post by Whedon Fan on Nov 16, 2008 9:03:26 GMT -5
Joss will definatley know about it, more or less everything Buffy/Angel related gets passed through him first or his department. Brian Lynch probably would have mentioned it to him aswell. Also it is about everything that happened in "After The Fall" so if it takes place after the cannonical book then surley it is official. Think of it as a sequel to a movie. It might be done by a differnet writer and dircetor but it is still more or less the same story and characters. So yes for me it is another canon edition to the verse. It even takes the numbering from "After The Fall" so it will go ATF 17 to Aftermath issue 18 and then 19 and so on... Hope this helps.
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Post by henzINNIT on Nov 16, 2008 9:48:23 GMT -5
It has Joss approval, but I'm not convinced that's any different to any other Angel comic or book published. It sounds as though he is less involved than with ATF.
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Post by joony on Nov 16, 2008 11:56:49 GMT -5
I think that the canon aspect of aftermath has been discussed to death, and it's not even been released yet. It's not even out this year. I'm sure we'll get more information closer to the time. We know that it's going to be dealing with issues raised in after the fall and use the same numbering system and to me, at the moment anyway, it's canon. And when it comes to the "Joss Seal of Approval" i'm sure he's not going to be walking down the street march/april 2009 see aftermath on the shelf and go "how did that happen? i had absolutely no idea that this was coming out". x
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Post by hitnrun017 on Nov 16, 2008 13:59:05 GMT -5
If Joss' name isn't attached to Aftermath somewhere, it wont be canon to me. He's obviously approved it, but didn't he do that with every other non-canon comic? I'll still be reading it either way to get an Angel fix.
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Post by Joe on Nov 18, 2008 16:41:25 GMT -5
If Joss' name isn't attached to Aftermath somewhere, it wont be canon to me. He's obviously approved it, but didn't he do that with every other non-canon comic? I'll still be reading it either way to get an Angel fix. So wait.. Joss's name isn't going to be attached to "Aftermath"?
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Post by Emmie on Nov 18, 2008 16:49:28 GMT -5
If Joss' name isn't attached to Aftermath somewhere, it wont be canon to me. He's obviously approved it, but didn't he do that with every other non-canon comic? I'll still be reading it either way to get an Angel fix. So wait.. Joss's name isn't going to be attached to "Aftermath"? He's talking about a hypothetical situation, Joe. He's not saying that Joss won't be involved with Aftermath, we don't know either way yet.
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Post by Joe on Nov 18, 2008 17:00:02 GMT -5
So wait.. Joss's name isn't going to be attached to "Aftermath"? He's talking about a hypothetical situation, Joe. He's not saying that Joss won't be involved with Aftermath, we don't know either way yet. Oh ok.. good I don't have to freak out yet..
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Post by henzINNIT on Nov 18, 2008 18:18:33 GMT -5
lol @ the people actually freaking out Joss' name won't be on the cover. It's not like he's a huge contributing factor to Angel now anyway.
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Post by Emmie on Nov 18, 2008 18:42:15 GMT -5
lol @ the people actually freaking out Joss' name won't be on the cover. It's not like he's a huge contributing factor to Angel now anyway. Well, he's not as hugely involved as he is in Buffy Season 8 where he writes arcs and Executive Produces for the entire work, but he did plot out some of the major points with Brian Lynch. Lynch is doing the lion's share, though. Joss is certainly more involved in After the Fall than any of the Buffyverse novels that have been published.
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Post by michellebuffyfest on Nov 18, 2008 19:17:14 GMT -5
In our interview with Kelley Armstrong, she said (this is just part of her answer):
"Yes, Aftermath is intended to be canon in the sense that it 'counts' - it continues the main storyline of the series. But if a reader feels that anything not written by Joss Whedon isn't canon, I can understand that."
I think Aftermath is intended to be canon from what I've been hearing. Kelley Armstrong will just be taking over where Brian Lynch left off.
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Post by Joe on Nov 18, 2008 19:46:22 GMT -5
I will be reading under the thought that it is indeed canon.. well.. unless something horribly bad happens
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Post by faithnspike on Nov 18, 2008 19:56:28 GMT -5
I think it is as cannon as after the fall is. I don't understand people beleveing that season 8 and after the fall are not canon but somehow they do
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Post by vortigun on Nov 18, 2008 20:16:30 GMT -5
Well Joss is aware of all Buffy merchandise, novels and comics that get released, in the way that he has said 'yeah sure' but has no further direct involvement. I mean if that is the status of Aftermath, I won't be reading it. I am going to want a bit more, at least for someone to say, 'yes, Joss has worked out major plot points with Kelly and has approved the work she is doing'.
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Post by Emmie on Nov 18, 2008 20:19:17 GMT -5
Joss is aware of them, but has no creative input. Which is very different with After the Fall where he plotted the story with Lynch and has even given notes on Lynch's scripts. I am going to want a bit more, at least for someone to say, 'yes, Joss has worked out major plot points with Kelly and has approved the work she is doing'. I'm waiting to hear this too, but I'm going to read Aftermath regardless.
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Post by BenTaylor3907 on Nov 29, 2008 11:33:02 GMT -5
I seriously hate how Angel is being passed around from person to person, you know? It took me a long time to get used to the idea that Brian Lynch was taking over, and now this? Why couldn't Brian Lynch do Aftermath? After The Fall is amazingly awesome so far! I really hope Joss gets more involved with this, to show us that he still cares about the Angel series. I've never even heard of Kelley Armstrong, did random people get picked to do the Angel series? Sorry, I don't mean to sound like a Negative Nancy, its just that I'm scared for the Angel series, you know? I just don't Joss Whedon to sweep it under the bed because he's busy with other stuff.
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Post by wenxina on Nov 29, 2008 12:29:37 GMT -5
God Ben! Debbie Downer much? I'm kidding. If there's a good story to be told, and the writer is capable, then I don't see the harm in them picking up where others have left off. Brian Lynch probably has other projects lined-up post-Atf (it has consumed over a year of his life, at the very least), and hey, moving on. Kinda like Joss, with his other projects. In fact, I much rather have it this way, then say Joss not having time to work on it, and it being buried under all his massive clipboards (last I heard, there were 7 of them, one per project). I've never heard of Kelley Armstrong either, but then again, pre-AtF, I'd never heard of Brian Lynch. So there. Anonymity doesn't speak of lack-of-ability.
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Post by cyclo on Nov 29, 2008 14:20:46 GMT -5
I seriously hate how Angel is being passed around from person to person, you know? It took me a long time to get used to the idea that Brian Lynch was taking over, and now this? Why couldn't Brian Lynch do Aftermath? After The Fall is amazingly awesome so far! I really hope Joss gets more involved with this, to show us that he still cares about the Angel series. I've never even heard of Kelley Armstrong, did random people get picked to do the Angel series? Sorry, I don't mean to sound like a Negative Nancy, its just that I'm scared for the Angel series, you know? I just don't Joss Whedon to sweep it under the bed because he's busy with other stuff. While its understandable for you to be scared, with comics, this is all very common. Its actually very rare that a writer stays with a comic for more then a couple arcs. At least with Angel, you've got the benefit that you don't have to consider this arc canon if you don't want to. With most comics, if you are really unhappy with a writer, you just have to grin and bear it and hope the next writer is better. I'm sure if she does something largely unpopular then Joss will just retcon it, assuming he ever goes back to the series.
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Post by snizapman6294 on Dec 6, 2008 19:16:52 GMT -5
so if After the fall is transforming into Aftermath, not stopping it and creating a new... whatever the comic equivalent of a season... is, then if aftermath isn't canonical, then the arguement could be made that after the fall isn't either. but i guess we'll find out more when it comes out!
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Post by Enisy on Dec 6, 2008 19:31:06 GMT -5
I am going to want a bit more, at least for someone to say, 'yes, Joss has worked out major plot points with Kelly and has approved the work she is doing'. I'm waiting to hear this too, but I'm going to read Aftermath regardless. I asked Kelley this: Enisy: Did Joss have a look at your outline of Angel: Aftermath and/or contribute any ideas? Some people seem to be curious about the extent of his involvement. And she responded with: Kelley Armstrong: I'd love to say I'm in direct contact with him (that'd be reason enough just to take the job ) but he's one very in-demand guy. What I've been told is that he's aware of and approves of the storyline and the direction the comics are going. Which is still kinda vague, but as good as we're gonna get, from what I perceive.
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