The Night Lord
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Post by The Night Lord on Aug 20, 2009 1:12:44 GMT -5
And in the case that Angel can't take Edward, just throw Spike in the mix. Edward wouldn't be able to take on Angel and Spike at the same time. Or better yet, we'll have Illyria fight Edward. Ooh, I can just imagine that lol
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Post by Angel Beast on Sept 2, 2009 19:38:53 GMT -5
And in the case that Angel can't take Edward, just throw Spike in the mix. Edward wouldn't be able to take on Angel and Spike at the same time. Or better yet, we'll have Illyria fight Edward. Ooh, I can just imagine that lolEdward would go the way of Cyvus Vail. Angel is a master of torture. He would destroy Edward. Plus if Angel has Drusilla in his corner it's a definite done deal. She would hypnotize him and Angel can come up and behead Edward. Then Dru would feed on Bella and dance around while the stars sing to her.
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HannahSlayer
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Post by HannahSlayer on Oct 6, 2009 20:24:18 GMT -5
Go Joss! Hell Yeah (:
Twilight sucks. I don't care what other people may say, it does suck. Sparkling in the sunlight? Come on. That's almost as stupid as it can get.
Angel would so kick some Cullen ass.
That video was awesome.
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Tea - Total
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Post by Tea - Total on Oct 24, 2009 17:19:04 GMT -5
Buffy >> Angel >> Edward.
Buffy is way stronger then both,But its not the topic lol ,Angel vs Edward i would say Angel .
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Oct 24, 2009 17:26:05 GMT -5
Buffy >> Angel >> Edward. Buffy is way stronger then both,But its not the topic lol ,Angel vs Edward i would say Angel . It's okay to go off topic a bit. We do that a lot on here. You really think Buffy's stronger than Edward? I mean the Twilight-vampires are ridiculously strong, ripping-up-trees-with-their-granite-hard-bodies strong. Buffy might be able to win over Edward, but probably not from just using her physical strength. Unless you mean that she's strong, warrior wise and I misunderstood.
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The Girl In Question
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Post by The Girl In Question on Oct 24, 2009 18:41:41 GMT -5
I do not like the Twilight books or the movie, but I like the movie more. And yes, I read the books first. Kristen Stewart's aloofness made Bella less whiny, and that was a major plus because I have never seen such a whiny Mary Sue in my life. The entire series is the most overrated drivel I've ever seen in the history of the planet. And personally I think the fact that the Meyerpires have basically no weakness makes them lamer. I mean, hello! The whole thing about being a vampire (in any mythology, with the acception of Stephanie Meyers) is that a price comes with being beautiful, strong, and super awesome forever. In Twilight their worst problem is: they can't sparkle in public. Whatevs, SM. What. Evs. So on topic: I think it's hilarious that Joss said "No offense, cuz he's hot." XD Good on him for being such a good sport, because I personally loathe Twilight.
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Tea - Total
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Post by Tea - Total on Oct 25, 2009 9:01:08 GMT -5
My conclusion is that Buffy is a Superior hero and champion, then Angel. She has all the materials of a great champion,technical skills,essences of speed,durability and the most important thing experience and thats important because her strength and knowledge of being a slayer gets upgraded.She been the slayer for 8 years now.And if i recall Buffy did defeat Angel numerous times,and everybody wowing Angel,that he would win Edward.I agree he would win Edward but i think if Buffy was thrown to the mix i think she come out victorious.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Oct 25, 2009 9:18:17 GMT -5
My conclusion is that Buffy is a Superior hero and champion, then Angel. She has all the materials of a great champion,technical skills,essences of speed,durability and the most important thing experience and thats important because her strength and knowledge of being a slayer gets upgraded.She been the slayer for 8 years now.And if i recall Buffy did defeat Angel numerous times,and everybody wowing Angel,that he would win Edward.I agree he would win Edward but i think if Buffy was thrown to the mix i think she come out victorious. I always wonder why are the vampire in twilight and true blood extremely strong,but i think i can explain an example why,because that the only evil thing on earth so they created the vampire unstoppable but on the other hand Buffy got allot more mythology of evil going for it,Gods,olds one,powerful withes.so it be unrealistic ,its like a food chain of evil and the gods and old ones are on top and the vampires are the bottom of the table,do you get what i mean.? You wont see a vampire vs a God. I'm very confused. How do you mean "and everybody wowing Angel,that he would win Edward"? Do you mean that everybody thinks Angel would win over Edward and that's why you think it too? And I don't get what you mean by the second paragraph either "example why,because that the only evil thing on earth so they created the vampire unstoppable"
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Tea - Total
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Post by Tea - Total on Oct 25, 2009 11:04:17 GMT -5
My conclusion is that Buffy is a Superior hero and champion, then Angel. She has all the materials of a great champion,technical skills,essences of speed,durability and the most important thing experience and thats important because her strength and knowledge of being a slayer gets upgraded.She been the slayer for 8 years now.And if i recall Buffy did defeat Angel numerous times,and everybody wowing Angel,that he would win Edward.I agree he would win Edward but i think if Buffy was thrown to the mix i think she come out victorious. I always wonder why are the vampire in twilight and true blood extremely strong,but i think i can explain an example why,because that the only evil thing on earth so they created the vampire unstoppable but on the other hand Buffy got allot more mythology of evil going for it,Gods,olds one,powerful withes.so it be unrealistic ,its like a food chain of evil and the gods and old ones are on top and the vampires are the bottom of the table,do you get what i mean.? You wont see a vampire vs a God. I'm very confused. How do you mean "and everybody wowing Angel,that he would win Edward"? Do you mean that everybody thinks Angel would win over Edward and that's why you think it too? And I don't get what you mean by the second paragraph either "example why,because that the only evil thing on earth so they created the vampire unstoppable" Yes everybody saying that Angel would win.I deleted the second paragraph because it was a big mess of confusion lol.
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Tea - Total
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Post by Tea - Total on Oct 25, 2009 16:18:04 GMT -5
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The Girl In Question
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Post by The Girl In Question on Oct 25, 2009 22:08:12 GMT -5
That was funny! Karma for you, sir!
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Tea - Total
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Post by Tea - Total on Oct 26, 2009 12:07:33 GMT -5
That was funny! Karma for you, sir! Thanks..
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Post by hellmouth on Nov 14, 2009 13:41:57 GMT -5
I personally think we are going about this completely wrong!!! I think we all agree that Angel would kick the crap out of Edward hands down.
The REAL question is in a competition of pouting and broodiness, who wins? I think that competition is much closer...
Who wins in a stoic Brood-off??
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Post by The Night Lord on Nov 14, 2009 23:24:12 GMT -5
Angel brooded for 100 years straight. Edward, not so much. So Angel would win there
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Post by nickclark89 on Nov 15, 2009 0:13:51 GMT -5
Edward is superman-fast, probably superman-strong and have you know... superman-granite-skin. WHAT!? You don't have the faintest idea of Superman then( Superman lift quintillion of tons). It's unbelievable what a Twilightfan (Fangirls) might think. Edward didn't uproot trees, he have uprooted a large branch .... However, Buffy stopped a piece of church launched by Twilight (season 8). Spike breaking a wall. ----> Darla jumping off a building. ----> Vampire walking on the wall, thanks to their claws. ---->
Super Speed.... It seems he teleports huh! ---->
Angel and Connor holding a thick wall of solid rock. -----> Angel ripping an arm off, and pulling a demon some feet into on the air. ----> A Slayer or Angel/Spike would destroy the vampires of Twilight. The vampires of Joss Whedon and the Slayers we have seen them deform the steel, wooden, rocks with his strenght. Angel is older and more experienced. He has faced to things waaaaaaaaaay worse than a brilliant "vampire". Fray has broken the hyper hard skin of a giant Elder demon, killing it with his own hands.Buffy/Faith/Angel/Spike would tear sparkly granite skin with his strenght. Angel would win easily.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Nov 15, 2009 7:30:58 GMT -5
First off, thank you for lumping me together with girls who think that Edward would win over anyone because he's pretty. That's not insulting at all.
You seem to however have thought this through. I assume you read all the books?
Now it was a while since I read the books, but this is what I remember;
Everything you just mentioned, Edward could do better. I have been a Buffy&Angel fan for years, a critical one, and I was amazed over the strength and speed the Twilight vampires have. While humans could kill vampires in the buffyverse, that seemed almost impossible in Twilight, mainly because of the granit skin, which I'm not sure could be penetrated by anything less of a diamond, no matter the strength put behind(but I could be remembering wrong). Of course, we're talking about Edward vs Angel, not Angel vs humans.
I admit, comparing Edward's strength to Superman was silly, considering that all I know about superman I learned from a few season of Smallville. And it seems like superman is way stronger. I should have used another comparison.
From what I remember, it was a tree. I'm not saying the tree was hundreds of years old, but it was a tree. I don't even know if one can uproot branches, since they're suppose to be attachted to trees to be branches, so I suppose you mean that he ripped a branch off a tree? I would have to re-read to be sure.
I'm looking at that panel in issue 11 right now, and from the looks off it, she jumped away from the chruch top, or pushed it out of the way in the last second so it landed next to her, instead of on her. But she did not "stop" it. with her hands or anything. I would not be suprised if Edward could have stood there, and let the chruch land on him and then stand up without a scratch (completely depends on Twilight's strength tough). But like I said, it was a while since I read the books. But while I read it, I often thought "Huh, even Buffy couldn't have done that." So the examples above (do vampire have claws? Don't you mean fingers?) aren't that great.
And even though the buffyverse vampires run fast, from reading the book, the twilight ones are faste.. Couldn't they pass states in hours? And what took Edward and Bella several hours to walk, took Edward, carrying Bella on his back, a few minutes(of course, Bella might have been too chocked to be able to appreciate the time correctly)? The buffyverse vampire always seemed fast, but not that fast. Hard to tell. Like in the Angel/Lilah scene, it seems like he teleported. In other scenes, he's slower.
Then of course is the fact that I think Angel is a very experienced in fighting, in ways Edward probably isn't, so you have a point.
However, Edward can rip of a branch, tree, and has harder skin than Angel. Humans could stake Angel if they caught him unprepared, but I don't think a ordinary human could force wood through Edward's skin, since it's mentioned in the book that pretty much only vampire & shapeshifter teeth could penetrate the skin.
That fact, and the fact that I think Edward is faster, makes me believe that unless Angel outsmartes Edward, he'll just stand there while Edward rips his limbs off. Since Edward skin is so hard, it's fair to assume the rest of his body is pretty hard to rip/stab/burn, etc etc, so even if Angel tried to tug right back at Edward's limbs, that would work... maybe if Edward stood still. It would however not be a easy win for Angel (unless he asked Jacob for help, then I think Edward would have a hard time winning).
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Post by nickclark89 on Nov 15, 2009 11:27:03 GMT -5
Many words, many words, many words.... You just has repeated everything again. About Superman... Well... You recognize it. On Smallville (As in Buffy / Angel) it's imposible that they show the true power of Superman because there wouldn't budget. A vampire have claws on Buffy/Angel... That vamp has claws. It doesn't landed next to her, the piece of church is still in the air first, supporting the weight of tons, then Buffy throwing it to the ground. Besides Buffy said "Go ahead. Church me. Plenty more where I came from" Yep, is a large branch, not a tree. (On the book and movie, I read the first book, and a little of the second, is a constant agony.) You hasn't read me right? Fray destroyed the hyper hard skin of a Elder Demon killing him with his hands. Granite is easily breakable with the strength of a Slayer or Vampire of Joss. No is more that a type stone. You have the impression that they are better, but the special effects for a television series it can't compare with that of a film, will always be better. Edward moves fast, but Angel seems to be teleported. Buffy and Angel often shows inconsistencies in their characters' physical strength. This has been acknowledged frequently in commentaries and interviews by writers and creators of the shows. Besides, Joss Whedon already has one opinion about this.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Nov 15, 2009 12:27:42 GMT -5
Was it shown on screen that that vampire had claws? It was a while since I saw that scene.
In the issue 11 panel all we see is Buffy shoving the church out of the way, so it landed next to her. She doesn't stand there, holding the church. And that line doesn't prove anything about her strength, just her cocky-ness. We don't see how much strength she used.
The tree I'm talking about is mentioned in book three. How can you assume you know the Twilight-vampires strength without reading all the books to be able to appreaciate their strength? It's like watching the first seasons of Buffy and saying that you know all about the Buffyverse vampires. You have to read all the books to be able to compare the vampires.
What does "No is more that a type stone" mean?
About Fray: Do you mean the flying demon Harth brought forth? What makes you think Edward couldn't have done that as well? It proved that slayers are strong, not that slayers are stronger than Twilight-vampires.
About the tv vs film; I just compare the books to Buffy(tv series), while taking the inconsistencies into account(that actors can't move superfast). Like I mentioned earlier, you can't compare Twilight-vampires to Buffyverse vampires, by just watching the Twilight-movie and reading the first book and some of the second.
You can guess who's stronger, but you can't say that Angel would win over Edward for sure.
And I'm not taking that Joss video in the first post seriously. I'm pretty sure that he's joking, but he does sound very uninformed. In case he's just watched the movie, he's actually less informed than you are. But like I said, he seemed to take the question lightly.
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Post by nickclark89 on Nov 15, 2009 12:48:08 GMT -5
"There are none so blind as those who will not see"
Buffy supported the piece of church, she herself commented that she has plenty more where she came from, you don't want see that. Angel is faster than Edward, seems he is teleports you don't want see that. Angel has faced things far more powerful and older than Edward, you don't want see that.
I put proofs (gifs, pics etc), and you only put conjectures. You always put "Buts" about the pics / gifs, when are irrefutable proofs.
I won't repeat again all this. I won't waste my time with a twilightfan(Well, worse is a Buffyfan defending Twilight saga.), is a hopeless case.
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Post by buffyfan21 on Nov 15, 2009 13:26:18 GMT -5
The REAL question is in a competition of pouting and broodiness, who wins? I think that competition is much closer... Who wins in a stoic Brood-off?? Haha, good question! I still think Angel is the king of brooding! ;D
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