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Post by CowboyGuy on Jul 13, 2009 5:35:05 GMT -5
I think there are worse things Willow could do to Buffy than simply kill her.
I am firmly against that, and do not think that is what happens. I do think Willow does something that affects Buffy so much that she has Buffy kill her in the future. Someone so grief-ridden as Future Willow seemed to be, would probably be happy to see Buffy again..past version or not. Willow didn't seem pleased at all at seeing Buffy.
Also it's worth mentioning that Harth, who dreamed of being Buffy told Willow, "I remember fighting you. In the dream, you hurt me. Not just fighting -- you're connected to someone I love".
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Post by hitnrun017 on Jul 13, 2009 11:15:51 GMT -5
I think there are worse things Willow could do to Buffy than simply kill her. I am firmly against that, and do not think that is what happens. I do think Willow does something that affects Buffy so much that she has Buffy kill her in the future. Someone so grief-ridden as Future Willow seemed to be, would probably be happy to see Buffy again..past version or not. Willow didn't seem pleased at all at seeing Buffy. Also it's worth mentioning that Harth, who dreamed of being Buffy told Willow, "I remember fighting you. In the dream, you hurt me. Not just fighting -- you're connected to someone I love". That's a great point. I always assumed Harth was talking about what went on in Two to Go, but man, that is very interesting.
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Post by Emmie on Jul 13, 2009 12:39:22 GMT -5
I think the worst thing Willow could do to Buffy would be to kill Xander. That's also the worst thing Willow could do to herself. And Willow might even blame Buffy for Xander's death the way she blames Buffy for Tara. Thinking that if Buffy hadn't asked her to do all these magics, then she wouldn't have gotten caught up again and her best friend for her entire life would still be here.
Plus Joss was thinking about killing off Xander in Season 7. I wonder if he still thinks about that.
Willow's already broken rules in order to bring Buffy back from the dead, it'd make sense that she'd work to change the past in order to save Xander.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Jul 13, 2009 13:28:45 GMT -5
I'm not sure I'd say that Willow "blames" Buffy for Tara's death. In "Anywhere But Here" she says that Tara died because she was close to Buffy, and that Willow feels guilty for not getting Tara away from such a dangerous situation. But I don't think she assigns any actual blame to Buffy for it... Buffy nearly got killed herself in the same attack, after all.
I think this was illustrated by the fact that Dark Willow didn't go after Buffy like she went after Warren, Jonathan and Andrew. She only attacked Buffy when B tried to stand in her way. Also, Future Dark Willow says nothing about it, even though Buffy's mentioning Kennedy would have given her an opening to do so.
Willow blames herself for Tara's death. Buffy blames herself for it, but she blames herself for just about everything else that goes wrong in the world, too.
There will be a rift between Buffy and Willow starting in this arc, but it will be motivated mostly by disagreement over the role of magic. That rift will probably be the genesis of Future Dark Willow, unless Buffy figures out a way to heal it and short-circuit that future. I believe she will, because she's a hero and stuff.
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Post by diabeticdude202 on Aug 8, 2009 3:18:40 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to this issue. I can only assume that the turnout won't be good for the gang. Maybe a death in the family, dunno. But what I do know is that now that Twilight knows that the Slayer and her gang weren't killed in the destruction of their headquarters, he's gonna find them. Now, like I always do, here is my prediction on this issue and the outcome of it: -I believe that Willow and Buffy's tortured friendship will again be sturred in this issue, with the magic, the future willow, everything. I can only assume that in the end, Willow thinks she's found something, or can do something to help, but it only causes another SPIKE in which Twilight will find them. The issue probably ends with Twilight at the temple, and everyone staring around to see an army of demons -- I think the covers represent something each in their own way. Chen's: Buffy and Willow are the two most magical beings of the gang. Willow being the mega wicca, and Buffy being the slayer that shares a connection with thousands and thousands of other girls. Whereas, Giles is the dormant one, the man on the fence, not on any side at all. He is always there to give answers, but this time, he doesn't have any. He's in a war that he doesn't believe that he can win. That is the way I've viewed him these last few issues. That's why he teamed up with Faith, that's why he stayed hidden. I believe he hid with Faith in Retreat I because he felt as though if Buffy failed, Faith could go out trying! And he would too. Jeanty: They are in a place of peacefulness, but they have to work for it. Giving up magic isn't easy. I don't think them working on the cover signifies them actually working. I believe it is a reference to them "working" towards a better future. A better world. A world where magic does not exist. Even though they don't view it that way. They view this as keeping it down to a minimum so that Twilight can't find them. But the truth is, Twilight's plan is to rid the world of magic, or so he says. So, is what they're doing, going to Oz for help, going to help them in the thick of it? Or will Twilight prevail? Again, I can't wait for this issue!
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Post by The Girl In Question on Aug 9, 2009 18:07:44 GMT -5
I am soooo not liking either of these covers....sigh....I think Jeanty's is the lesser of the two evils, though.
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Post by classicmaiden on Aug 10, 2009 11:47:58 GMT -5
I really look forward to this issue I hope there will be more clues soon about who Twilight might be - so many theories going through my head I really hope Oz doesn't die. Ditto on that . And I'm so glad to have him back...
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Post by hitnrun017 on Aug 11, 2009 19:48:50 GMT -5
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Post by Emmie on Aug 11, 2009 19:52:51 GMT -5
Oh! Awesome preview! And the art is looking really stellar in that one page.
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Post by wenxina on Aug 11, 2009 19:55:01 GMT -5
Hmm... interesting. Did Jeanty watch "A Spy in the House of Love"? Coz I just had major deja-vu.
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Post by hitnrun017 on Aug 11, 2009 19:55:22 GMT -5
Hahaha, I love Andrew's thoughts. Great stuff in that one page, wonder where it'll go.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Aug 11, 2009 20:34:43 GMT -5
Looks like The Mole is about to become an issue.
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Post by Rebecca on Aug 12, 2009 0:56:46 GMT -5
The Mole or the Betrayer? It's hard to tell just yet.
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Post by CowboyGuy on Aug 12, 2009 1:03:54 GMT -5
Giles looks all stubbly and unkempt! Odd!
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Post by diabeticdude202 on Aug 12, 2009 1:19:41 GMT -5
Does anyone think this is where Xander comes in? I think he's the spy in the midst.
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Post by Wyndam on Aug 12, 2009 3:49:46 GMT -5
My money is on Satsu.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Aug 12, 2009 7:39:31 GMT -5
Pretty certain it's not. If Satsu was spying for Twilight, why would he have gone to all that trouble to infiltrate her and her group with the Vampy Cats? I'd also like to know why, if there's a spy in Buffy's group, Twilight is flailing around so much trying to locate them? Why not just wait for the tipoff?
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Post by Wyndam on Aug 12, 2009 12:29:10 GMT -5
I'd also like to know why, if there's a spy in Buffy's group, Twilight is flailing around so much trying to locate them? Why not just wait for the tipoff? I was wondering that while reading the last issue. Unless Twilight's mole has currently gone dark, but there is no reason to yet.
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Post by hedgehogvampire on Aug 12, 2009 18:59:32 GMT -5
can't wait for this issue. It loos like it is going to be a good one.
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Post by Rebecca on Aug 12, 2009 22:53:19 GMT -5
This whole arc is turning out very exciting and eventful.
*Channeling Scotty* "Its exciting!!!"
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