darkwitch6869
Innocent Bystander
"I am a she-witch, a very powerful she-witch - or witch, as is more accurate. I am not to be trifled
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Post by darkwitch6869 on Aug 13, 2009 20:06:00 GMT -5
I'm really not comfortable with the whole Dander ((xander/dawn) sorry not good with the couple names) thing why does everyone need to be hooked up all the time .The man has lost an ex-fiancee then just lost a really cool girl that could have been something and now hes gonna be with dawn. Give hima break let him breath for a second. Its just out of no where and vry akward. ( also doesnt it mean that Dawn would die) Since no ones allowed to be happy romantically especially Xander he keeps getting screwed but keeps trying poor Xand.
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Post by sagewoman on Aug 17, 2009 1:22:32 GMT -5
I'm thinking that the Jeanty cover is how Andrew would "tell the story" of their time in Tibet.
I reallu like both covers. \\And, I just had a really strange idea - Twilight could be a grown up Andrew. After all, he is still a young man - does he even shave yet? He could be back from a future where he finally grew up and became disillusioned about it all. It would be like him to do the "scratch an itch" type of thing. And the odd reaction to the "Spike" comment about the graphs.
And the Tibetan monk thing is to do general labour to find enlightenment - “Before enlightenment; chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment; chop wood, carry water.” Zen Proverb
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Post by hitnrun017 on Aug 18, 2009 18:27:48 GMT -5
Dark Horse posted the covers with the borders, and they added something to Jeanty's cover: Kinda weird, but kinda cool too. Really excited to see where this goes.
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Post by butters on Aug 18, 2009 18:35:21 GMT -5
hmmm, wounder why they did that?
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Aug 18, 2009 19:43:45 GMT -5
"Strength Without Powers" eh? I've suspected that might be how they justify de-powering the Slayers without disempowering them as well. Unfortunately, it looks like it doesn't work.
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Post by butters on Aug 18, 2009 19:54:47 GMT -5
Unfortunately, it looks like it doesn't work. Agreed
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Post by Emmie on Aug 18, 2009 20:21:48 GMT -5
I've been thinking about the message of feminism and how it's tied to Slayer powers. I've said in the past that being the Slayer isn't the strongest message of feminism, but being Buffy is. To me, the message of feminism and the struggle against the hegemonic forces was never more fully realized than in the episode Helpless when Buffy's power is taken from her and she still kicks ass. The power itself isn't the message of feminism to me. It's what you do when faced with the threat of losing your power, of losing your life, of losing your rights.
When everything is taken away from you and you stare evil in the face and say, "All I need is me. I am the power."
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Aug 18, 2009 20:33:52 GMT -5
I've been thinking about the message of feminism and how it's tied to Slayer powers. I've said in the past that being the Slayer isn't the strongest message of feminism, but being Buffy is. To me, the message of feminism and the struggle against the hegemonic forces was never more fully realized in the episode Helpless when Buffy's power is taken from her and she still kicks ass. The power isn't the message of feminism to me. It's what you do when faced with the threat of losing your power, of losing your life, of losing your rights. That's probably how it will go: Slayers lose their powers and still kick ass. But it looks like they're in for a period of being the ass-kickees before becoming the kickers. The last 10 issues of this season have the potential to be the greatest thing ever. I hope Brad and Joss are up for it.
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Post by Emmie on Aug 18, 2009 20:47:18 GMT -5
It seems like the concept of "strength without powers" is directly addressing a flaw in Chosen. That only Potentials are empowered. That not all women are eligible to be strong. That some are forever denied this power. In this way, the Slayer power is merely another extension of this exclusive club that keeps out the Other Women.
So the rising music in Chosen for me that spoke of feminism was about sharing power and shaking free of the shackles placed upon them. That the power every potential is born with should be theirs no matter what some men from millennia ago determined. The power itself is not feminism, but the act of freeing women and giving them the rights to their power is. Merely having power and being women is not a story of feminism imo.
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Post by butters on Aug 18, 2009 22:12:07 GMT -5
So maybe they will lose their slayer powers for good and just be regular woman that fight evil? That could work!
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Aug 18, 2009 22:19:21 GMT -5
And I should point out once again that Joss is a humanist. For him, the ideal source of power is onesself, not some external "higher power," whether that power is "God" or "magic."
The question is... if the Slayers are permanently de-powered, shouldn't Twilight's interest in them be at an end? If there are no more magically empowered Slayers, then there's no more problem. Right?
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Post by butters on Aug 18, 2009 22:21:39 GMT -5
True unless its personal, and not really about the slayer but more about Buffy.
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Post by diabeticdude202 on Aug 21, 2009 8:55:40 GMT -5
I have a question for yas. If Buffy is killed, does the connection break. I know the scythe was used to share the power, like Willow activated the connection - but the real source of power comes from within Buffy as she is THE slayer, not A slayer.
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jaxx34
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Post by jaxx34 on Aug 23, 2009 19:14:32 GMT -5
"I have a question for yas. If Buffy is killed, does the connection break. I know the scythe was used to share the power, like Willow activated the connection - but the real source of power comes from within Buffy as she is THE slayer, not A slayer. "
I don't know know how to quote that, but anyways, I don't think it matters if Buffy dies anymore. When she died the first time, it called a new slayer, Kendra, and when she died, it called Faith, right? And when Buffy died in Season 5, no other slayer was called, that would make one assume that the REAL slayer line now runs through Faith right?
Just wanted to throw that out there...
Jax
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Post by wytchcroft on Aug 23, 2009 20:46:06 GMT -5
The question is... if the Slayers are permanently de-powered, shouldn't Twilight's interest in them be at an end? If there are no more magically empowered Slayers, then there's no more problem. Right? Maybe... with Frey's future secure as well... Twilight could be a white hat after all.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Aug 23, 2009 21:03:22 GMT -5
The question is... if the Slayers are permanently de-powered, shouldn't Twilight's interest in them be at an end? If there are no more magically empowered Slayers, then there's no more problem. Right? Maybe... with Frey's future secure as well... Twilight could be a white hat after all. Only if the very concept of morality has lost all meaning. But all good villains are partially right... that's Joss's motto.
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slayerette
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There aren't a lot of people that I love[Mo0:1]
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Post by slayerette on Aug 24, 2009 20:50:31 GMT -5
I'm getting the feeling Twilight isn't 100% interested in slayers in general. I think even if they were de-powered he'd still at least go after Buffy. It feels personal. It's almost like all of this is a big show to get Buffy to the point where she turns the sword on herself. That doesn't necessarily jive with some altruistic doing bad in order to save the world. Sounds more like revenge. This is assuming you take what he says at face value. I just can't help but think there has to be a way to de-slayerize the potentials that doesn't involve the mass murder of teenage girls, and Harmony, and vampy cats.
Side note: Is it me or are the extended previews coming out later and later...I need new pages to analyze to hold me over until the next issue comes out.
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Post by wenxina on Aug 24, 2009 23:24:31 GMT -5
The longer previews usually come out a week before the issue is scheduled to hit the shelves. It's quite normal, I think. But Dark Horse has been rather stingy with their previews of late, issuing a paltry two compared to their previously more generous three pages. Hmph.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Aug 24, 2009 23:43:47 GMT -5
Remember that after Georges is done with them, they still have to go to the inker, the colorist, and the letterer... so they may just be putting up the few pages they have, when they have them.
Sometimes a longer preview might be too spoilery, too.
I remember when the #23 preview came out before #22 even hit the shelves. That was weird.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Aug 26, 2009 7:50:54 GMT -5
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