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Post by Midnight Butterfly on Oct 19, 2009 4:47:27 GMT -5
That article references Caroline's contract, not Dushku's. LMAO!   Omg, that really made my day. lol. *Bows head in shame*   |
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Post by hitnrun017 on Oct 21, 2009 21:29:35 GMT -5
Ausiello just updated his Twitter with this: Ugh, hope it isn't true. |
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Allowat Sakima
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Post by Allowat Sakima on Oct 22, 2009 17:36:17 GMT -5
search your feelings. you know it to be true.
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Post by wytchcroft on Oct 24, 2009 20:27:03 GMT -5
Hey, can we put out a plea on the general discussion boards since many think that the Whedon group has abandoned the Dollhouse? who the how the huh??? |
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Post by Saturn 5 on Oct 25, 2009 9:08:52 GMT -5
Just working my way through season 1. What occurs to me; 1. Clearly see the influence of Buffy/Angel. Adele is very Lilah, Topher is very Knox, Reed Diamond's character very Hamilton, even the set reminds me of WR&H (and the sleep chambers VERY Alien). Some storylines the same too, adults reduced to acting like children (Band Candy), everyone loses their memory (Spin the Bottle), psycho hunter pursues girl through the woods (Homecoming), little girl traumatised by being kidnapped and abused by serial killer (Damage) etc. Nice to spot the cameos too, the guy who plays the Valet in The Trial in the Beyonce episode for instance. Helo's sparring partner is the 'walking action figure' Spike fights to get his soul back. They even use the phrase Tabula Rusa in one ep ('blank slate') 2. A lot of people think it's stupid that the Dolls are all volunteers (or were at least blackmailed into signing on). I don't because it adds moral ambiguity, if they were slaves then the Dollhouse would be out and out evil. As it is we feel sympathy with the workers, Adele and Topher showing their vulnerability and loneliness, Adele hiring Victor to romance her, Topher programming Sierra as his perfect, beautiful geek girlfriend for his birthday. You also understand why November signed on, the death of her daughter too much to bear (did she kill her?) and Victor having committed some form of war crime. Anyone want to bet me that Alpha is Caroline's boyfriend we see shot during their break in at the science lab? 3. Quite shocked that the prostitution aspect is so blatant. I mean I expected it to feature but like the Holodeck in Star Trek I thought they'd leave it ambiguous as to whether people used it to have sex. But no, it's right out there. A common feature of adult fanfic is any and all of the Buffy/Angel girls turning to prostitution at some stage, normally when Buffy needs to support herself in LA btween seasons 2/3 or when she and Dawn are strapped for cash in season 6 or Kate Lochley after she get's fired by the LAPD ("Buffy the Streetwalking Hooker" buffy.adultfanfiction.net/story.php?no=600031116 if you're over 18 and VERY open minded) I always thought Joss would be shocked by such stories but judging by this probably not. At least though it's not sexist, both males and females equally. 4. Eliza Dushku as a whip-cracking dominatrix!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bet they aired THAT scene in the advertisements for the show during sweeps week! You just wonder about writers sitting around thinking "What sexy outfit can we put Echo into this week?". Anyone want to bet me that we see her as naughty nurse/sexy stewardess/hot cop/nubile Girl Scout/'Britney' style schoolgirl through the course of the series? Harmless enough titillation but what's a little more disturbing is Ballard discovering November is a doll then engaging in some extremely violent and forceful sex with her, bordering on rape (like Angel and Darla at the end of season 2 of Angel). Afterwards she tells him she really enjoyed herself but doesn't want it to be this way between them all the time. Jeez, even the heroes are pretty dark in this series! Another thing i find creepy is when the Dolls don't have there personalities implanted, they just act like stoned children or something 5. So what is the Dollhouse's hidden agenda? I figure it's to take over the world but not in a Bond villain way, I figure they want to use mind control to erradicate evil etc much like Jasmine in Angel season 4. Of course this can't end well I like this series and hope it continues. What it lacks for me however is the great dialogue we've come to expect from Joss' shows and that sense of family and teamwork we got from the Sunnydale Scoobs and Angel Investigations. Needs more humour too although I do like the 'PORN!' line and the dominatrix jokes. Really it's a case of 'Shows great potential but must do better'. |
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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 2, 2009 15:26:14 GMT -5
1. Okay, TOTALLY fooled by Alpha's infiltration of the Dollhouse, when he cut Victor I was speechless with shock. But was Alpha in league with Donovan or was that a bluff? And was he leading Ballard on or was that someone else?
2. Also fooled by Whiskey, even to the point I thought it was Echo dancing in the headlights during the 'In dreams' scene (very Badlands, Bonnie and Clyde, Wild at Heart and especially Blue Velvet touch). Really a VERY different side to Amy Acker we'd never seen before. The bit where Alpha attacks her with the pruning shears was pretty unwatchable. Also Ballard seems unecessarily cruel when dumping November/Melly
3. You know I always had that fear of backless stairs too
4. Topher still reminds me of Knox but also of Andrew and the nerds. Topher actually used the word 'frak' at one point.
5. The scene where Echo and Victor face off with 'Caroline' in the chair is just too weird. The way Alpha just runs off afterwards is silly, Joss obviously not too keen on gunfights. Also what happened to Sierra and November? They get turned into bounty hunters and then forgotten about
Gotta say things are looking up, still got to watch Epitaph One but I'll look forwards to the second season
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Post by CourtneyDax on Nov 2, 2009 16:46:02 GMT -5
I loaned my DVDs out still so I'm hoping to gain some new fans still. I really don't want fox to destroy this show!!!
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Post by Hellbound Hyperion on Nov 2, 2009 16:53:39 GMT -5
I loaned my DVDs out still so I'm hoping to gain some new fans still. I really don't want fox to destroy this show!!! I'd keep loaning out the DVDs then. That's what this month should be about - getting more fans! |
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