Tea - Total
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Post by Tea - Total on Oct 24, 2009 13:23:35 GMT -5
Theory on Buffy season 8 ending.
Well if anyone remembers Fray, her demon pal told her of this big apocalyptic battle in Buffy's time that ended the demon threat, vanishing them all into another dimension.
.So, whos to say Joss isn't secretly bringing everything into order and tying a nice big bow on the entire Buffyverse. The cult brings about Twilight, demons go bye bye, fast forward a few hundred years, hello Melaka.
Whats your theory???
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neowhobaz
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Post by neowhobaz on Oct 24, 2009 16:34:00 GMT -5
I hope it does stay in line with what was established in fray. The beauty is Joss left out the details then just so he could stretch it out even longer with season 8 lol
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Post by Neil on Oct 25, 2009 13:47:33 GMT -5
Maybe this big apocalyptic battle doesn´t occur at the end of season 8, but at the end of season 10 ;-)
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Post by Tea - Total on Oct 25, 2009 14:43:42 GMT -5
Yes maybe.But i think this time that Twilight going to win.Because Twilight goal was to vanish all magics and end the demon threat.And he wants to end the slayer army because it is similar to an army of demons.Because the slayer army is similar threat to human race.  |
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Post by henzINNIT on Oct 25, 2009 15:50:59 GMT -5
Season 8 seems to be leading into Fray pretty clearly; the only thing throwing me off is the promise of Season 9. What the hell would they do with that season if magic is banished in 8? I guess it's possible that 9 is just a lie to throw us off.
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Post by Rebecca on Oct 25, 2009 16:08:49 GMT -5
I doubt that season 9 is a red herring, with it being confirmed by Joss already. The issue of the apocalypse mentioned in Fray and Buffy Season 8/9 have been brought up extensively, especially around the Time of Your Life arc. Consensus seems to be that nothing is written in stone necessarily; that we will either see everything played out exactly as we see it in Fray's time, or an alternative timeline will open up. |
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Post by henzINNIT on Oct 25, 2009 16:45:33 GMT -5
Maybe I'm biased by my hatred of alternate timelines, but I really hope we're not approaching that and undoing things established by Fray and Time of Your Life.
As for Season 9 being confirmed by Joss... well yeah... If it were a lie, he'd obviously be in on it; he be the source lol. I doubt that it's the case though.
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Tea - Total
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Post by Tea - Total on Oct 25, 2009 16:49:42 GMT -5
Fray had a vision about Buffy's last battle with Twilight, and she got knocked into a dimension and that might suggest the last remaining Scoobies might fight to return to the earths dimension, that might begin in season 9, the Scoobies fighting for the survival to get back home. Willow without magic and she might prefer this dimension better and she might turn evil for that reason. Or probably Willow might begin the magic thing again into a magicless world. So she might be unstoppable and she might start the whole magic thing again. How did the magic conquer the earth to begin with? Surely it can be regained again in earth's dimension.
Or there is going to be a big battle for reality and existence. So Fang team and the Scoobies are working together in a huge army of slayers, to fight Twilight's army.
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Post by Rebecca on Oct 25, 2009 17:10:36 GMT -5
Buffylover, Fray didn't have a vision, that was just visualization to what the demon was telling her. In fact, she doesn't have any slayer visions at all, that all went to Harth.
Buffy didn't get knocked into a dimension in the visualization; the identity of the woman with her hand through the portal is still unnamed.
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Tea - Total
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Post by Tea - Total on Oct 26, 2009 11:46:22 GMT -5
The person unnamed who grabbed Buffy hand and push her into another dimension, That suggests she and possibly the surviving Scoobies as well end up in another world..
Earth has been cut off from the demon dimensions and the vampires banished by the last slayer, back in the 21st century (this likely might be Buffy finale battle),In the comics , slowly the demonic presence has been creeping back. Vampires have reemerged, now called Lurks. Because Twilight ultimate goal is to get ride of all magics even dark magics ,and to end all demonic presence on earth.
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Post by Rebecca on Oct 26, 2009 13:36:35 GMT -5
The person unnamed who grabbed Buffy hand and push her into another dimension, That suggests she and possibly the surviving Scoobies as well end up in another world.. I am not sure what you are referring to here. |
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Post by wenxina on Oct 26, 2009 13:44:31 GMT -5
The person unnamed who grabbed Buffy hand and push her into another dimension, That suggests she and possibly the surviving Scoobies as well end up in another world.. There was nobody who grabbed "Buffy's hand". The owner of the hand sticking out of the portal is unknown. Could be Buffy. Could be someone else. The last Slayer could possibly be Buffy. Could be some other girl. It's all left very open ended, which is just as well, considering the monumental task of connecting "Chosen" to Fray. But there was no pushing of any sort. Time for a reread of Fray? |
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Oct 26, 2009 13:55:12 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure it was confirmed at some point that it was Buffy in that scene, and her hand in the portal. (Not sure who else it would be... this is Buffy's story, after all.)
Who else would wear a miniskirt to an apocalypse?
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Post by Rebecca on Oct 26, 2009 14:01:54 GMT -5
I'd like to see that confirmation  From what I remember being discussed, miniskirt-slash-stake gal and hand-out-of-portal gal weren't necessarily the same person. |
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Post by wenxina on Oct 26, 2009 14:07:08 GMT -5
I think it was Joss, or one of the writers who said that he always thought it would be Buffy who would be the Slayer in Urkonn's story. And yes, Buffy's probably the only Slayer I can think of who would wear a minidress to the apocalypse. But as far as having actually naming the girl, it hasn't happened yet. And so, for now, the girl remains unknown. Also, it is unknown if S8 will directly lead to that scene. It may just set things up so that the future we've already seen will come to pass. Or hey, then again, there are the alternate future pundits.
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Post by Tea - Total on Oct 26, 2009 14:10:23 GMT -5
The person unnamed who grabbed Buffy hand and push her into another dimension, That suggests she and possibly the surviving Scoobies as well end up in another world.. I am not sure what you are referring to here. I am referring that in the end of Buffy season 8.Theirs is going to be a big battle of reality and existence .In Fray time , her demon pal told her of this big apocalyptic battle in Buffy's time that ended the demon threat, vanishing them all into another dimension.But that might be Buffy's army because Twilight stated that the Slayers are as a threat to humanity, no better than an army of demons |
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Post by Rebecca on Oct 26, 2009 14:17:30 GMT -5
I am not sure what you are referring to here. I am referring that in the end of Buffy season 8.Theirs is going to be a big battle of reality and existence .In Fray time , her demon pal told her of this big apocalyptic battle in Buffy's time that ended the demon threat, vanishing them all into another dimension.But that might be Buffy's army because Twilight stated that the Slayers are as a threat to humanity, no better than an army of demons I think you should go re-read Fray. They never named her as Buffy, nor did Urkonn say that the battle banished the slayer's friends (be it the Scoobies, or someone else) to another dimension with the demons. The two stories, Fray and Buffy, haven't been properly tied yet with respect to that apocalyptic battle. |
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Post by Tea - Total on Oct 26, 2009 14:30:48 GMT -5
I am referring that in the end of Buffy season 8.Theirs is going to be a big battle of reality and existence .In Fray time , her demon pal told her of this big apocalyptic battle in Buffy's time that ended the demon threat, vanishing them all into another dimension.But that might be Buffy's army because Twilight stated that the Slayers are as a threat to humanity, no better than an army of demons I think you should go re-read Fray. They never named her as Buffy, nor did Urkonn say that the battle banished the slayer's friends (be it the Scoobies, or someone else) to another dimension with the demons. The two stories, Fray and Buffy, haven't been properly tied yet with respect to that apocalyptic battle. I am not saying its going to happen its just my theory lol..Buffy is the last slayer before Fray so they might connect to each other. Fray is trying to figure out what her destiny as a Slayer entails,and also the past slayers. |
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Oct 26, 2009 14:34:18 GMT -5
I'm 99% confident that's Buffy (and her hand) in the story. It would be a lame storytelling decision to have it be someone else. However, as I've said before, it was a story told from hearsay by an unreliable narrator (Urkonn)... it's not necessarily Buffyverse "fact" like something we see in real time would be. Also, Scott indicated in the last Q&A that the precise future events we've seen aren't carved in stone. (Although the general magic-banishing outcome seems to be).
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Post by wenxina on Oct 26, 2009 14:36:56 GMT -5
We don't know if Buffy is the last Slayer before Fray. At the moment, there are almost 2000 girls who are Slayers, and more it seems, are being called every day (e.g. Soledad in #21). Even if you're going by Slayers Called through the original method, Faith is technically the last Slayer then.
AC3P0: It may very well be Buffy. Just saying that it hasn't been shown for a fact yet.
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