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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Mar 22, 2009 6:16:49 GMT -5
lol.
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Post by Nicholas on Mar 22, 2009 22:43:57 GMT -5
Im actually really excited for this issue!
But anyway, I do feel that some of the ways that Buffy has gone about things in the past (S8) were a little off, but I feel that the actions she did in the latest issue, were her jumping back on the horse.
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Post by BenTaylor3907 on Mar 30, 2009 9:48:33 GMT -5
So I just glanced at Jo Chen's cover for this and that blond chick's hand is creeping me out. Like... seriously. Have you guys seen The Lost Boys? Those vampires had some triflin lookin' feet. For real. They were the scariest part of the whole movie! lmao.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on May 12, 2009 10:12:43 GMT -5
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Post by Secret Scoobie on May 12, 2009 10:17:40 GMT -5
Oooh I wonder who/what the mystery voice person in the last frame is.. *ahem*
Thanks for the link!
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Post by wenxina on May 12, 2009 11:12:26 GMT -5
First post updated with preview thumbnails. Thanks AndrewCrossett!
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Post by Tyler Austin "tiewashere" on May 12, 2009 12:32:24 GMT -5
This looks promising. I think I'm only going to buy it to tie me over until Retreat.
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Post by wenxina on May 13, 2009 13:21:03 GMT -5
Newsarama interview with Becky Cloonan (the writer) here. Or read on below... click on the spoiler tags. Becky Cloonan on Buffy: Tales of the Vampires
By Chris Arrant posted: 13 May 2009 06:06 am ET
Although born on the silver screen, Buffy the Vampire Slayer didn’t find success until landing on the tv screen and as of late, she’s called comics her canonical home. With the ongoing Buffy comic book series helmed by creator Joss Whedon proving quite successful, the franchise is spreading it wings... or is ‘fangs’ a better word?
On June 3rd, Dark Horse Comics will release Buffy The Vampire Slayer: Tales of the Vampires, a 40 page one-shot about a small Massachusetts town and what happens with a sultry vampress gets a taste for the high school crowd. The one-shot is written by Becky Cloonan, best known as the artist of such books as DEMO and Pixu. She’s joined by fellow Pixu alum Vasilis Lolos to draw the story, and the rest of the Pixu team – Gabriel Ba and Fabio Moon – are rounding out the group providing a alternate cover. For Cloonan, it’s her feature-length debut as a writer and for Buffy fans it should prove to expand on the world and recent events in the primary Buffy in which vampires are known to the world at large. No matter what camp you are from, with the creators Eisner pedigree and popular source material – it should be a intoxicating ride.
Newsarama: Becky, big picture-wise, how would you describe the story in this book?
Becky Cloonan: The story focuses around Jacob, a high school kid, and a small group of people and vampires that immediately effect his life. He's torn between two girls, Alex, his classmate and only friend, and May, a mysterious college girl. On the other end is Sebastian, a vampire that he has been hanging out with, and who he lets drink his blood. And then there's his mom, who is concerned about Jacob but doesn't know how to help him, or for that matter, what was wrong with him in the first place.
But the vampires, the violence, the love triangle, all this is secondary to Jacob's search for some kind of escape from his life. His days are a constant repetition of events, and bringing vampires into the equation doesn't necessarily solve that problem. Jacob just floats by until his routine eventually collapses on him, and he realizes that he was the one keeping himself trapped all along.
NRAMA: Leading off this story is a man named Jacob, who has a penchant for video games and vampires. Can you tell us about him?
BC: Jacob is a high school kid who, naturally, is looking for some action. He's bored, disillusioned and a loner, so naturally he is attracted to the danger and adrenaline rush that fraternising with vampires gives him, and he enjoys the light headed feeling that bloodletting gives him. He thinks he has everything under control, but realizes too late that he is in over his head. That's when the trouble starts.
NRAMA: How does Alexia fit into this?
BC: Imagine you're at a party and instead of doing shots or passing around a joint people are getting their blood sucked by a vampire. There's always someone who will make a fuss about not wanting to participate, and maybe get dramatic about it- that's Alex. She doesn't like Vampires and is pretty disgusted that the boy she's got a crush on- Jacob- loves them.
NRAMA: And the solicits talk about, ominously I say, a character named May – who “can help Jacob leave those High-school days behind”. What’s her story?
BC: May gets a bad wrap, she's not that ominous! She's the older woman- I'm not sure exactly how much older- but Jacob doesn't seem to mind. She gets involved almost accidentally in a love triangle with Jacob and Alexia, and of course it doesn't end well. Okay, maybe she deserves a little bit of the ominousity.
NRAMA: I think you created a new word there – ominousity; I like it! How intertwined is this with the Buffy franchise?
BC: It's as intertwined as it can be without having any Buffy-specific characters in it- that is, it deals heavily with the current social issues that have come up in the new series. As vampires are becoming more accepted into society, it's shifted the balance of power between them and the slayers. This issue is a glimpse into how that shift is playing out, from both the perspective of a human, and the perspective of a vampire.
NRAMA: This isn’t your first dance with a vampire – you did a heavily under-rated (and out of print) adaptation of Bram Stoker’s Dracula some time back. What makes vampires so cool?
BC: There's something to say about the mystery and drama surrounding Vampire mythology, something sexy, dangerous and pretty damn evil that people respond to in a really visceral way. Bram Stoker's Dracula is an eternity away from what's happening in Buffy- which proves yet again that Vampires are of the most versatile monsters in history. From historical lore to Lost Boys, from Blade to Twilight, to Vampire Hunter D to Castlevania to Bunnicula, they've crept into every genre and every medium, and have kept people on the edge of their seats for generations.
NRAMA: If you had the chance, would you become a vampire?
BC: Just think of all the work I could get done if I didn't have to sleep... It's pretty tempting, but then again I love eating solid food, so I don't think I'd jump at the opportunity, maybe just slowly walk up to it and tap it on the shoulder, that sort of thing.
NRAMA: How did this project come about for you?
BC: Vasilis Lolos and I had just finished a horror comic with Fabio Moon and Gabriel Ba called PIXU that Dark Horse is collecting in hardcover this summer, and after that we started talking with Scott Allie who thought this would be a cool project for me and V to work on. I guess it was one of those "one thing led to another" type scenarios. Oh, Fabio and Gabriel did an alternate cover to this Buffy issue, which is totally awesome. The main cover was done by Jo Chen, and she's been a favorite artist of mine for years and years, and with Dave Stewart on colors it's like, man... so many dreams come true for me.
NRAMA: Joss Whedon is the head honcho for all things Buffy – did you have any meetings, conversations, or back-and-forth about the story at all?
BC: I shook his hand at New York Comic Con! That was pretty rad. I'm assuming he was okay with the story because he didn't try to strangle me or anything! Actually, his input came through my editor on this, Scott Allie. I had three or four very different initial ideas, and we narrowed it down with some back and forth.
NRAMA: As mentioned, you’re working with a friend and frequent collaborator, Vasilis Lolos. As someone who’s attuned to his work, did writing for him change the way you wrote it? As in, did you make sure to steer it towards thing he’d be able to draw particularly well?
BC: In part, I was careful about locations and I left a lot of the design and feel of it up to him. But at the same time I figured he can draw anything that I can draw, so I didn't particularly play to his strengths. That's one of the great things about working with a great artist, I don't have to worry about that stuff. V can draw anything that's thrown at him.
NRAMA: Although you’ve written for other artists before, this will be your biggest work as a writer yet. What’s the experience been like?
BC: I'm not gonna lie- it hasn't been easy! I've spent the better part of my life honing my drawing skills, and every time I've written for myself I've been really lazy about it, I write in short hand, incomplete sentences, no punctuation... that sort of thing. This was the first actual "Page One, Panel One" script I've ever written. My process is still a little backwards- I loosely storyboarded the whole comic before I wrote it, and kind of dictated my storyboards to the script. There was a lot of edits, a lot of back and forths on this, but it was worth it! It's actually pretty dense too, which I was happy with because I usually fall back into my 'decompression' comfort zone. I feel like I really raised the bar for myself with this, and I had a lot of fun doing it. I learned a lot, too (props to Scott Allie for putting up with my newness to script writing)! I'm really happy that they took a chance on me as a writer, and I'm really proud of how it came out.
NRAMA: And do you plan to do more writing in the future?
BC: Oh yeah, definitely! Even if people hate it! [laughs]
I'll never stop drawing, though.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on May 13, 2009 13:37:00 GMT -5
I'm still not so sure about this whole "people getting their blood sucked for pleasure" angle. I know Riley did it, so it's not unique to the comics, but... call me crazy, I just think having someone sink their teeth into your jugular vein and drain your blood would be a lot more hurty than sexy. It's certainly not the first thing I'd think of to replace Jack Daniels shots as a way of celebrating Friday night.
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Post by wenxina on May 13, 2009 13:43:16 GMT -5
I'm still not so sure about this whole "people getting their blood sucked for pleasure" angle. I know Riley did it, so it's not unique to the comics, but... call me crazy, I just think having someone sink their teeth into your jugular vein and drain your blood would be a lot more hurty than sexy. It's certainly not the first thing I'd think of to replace Jack Daniels shots as a way of celebrating Friday night. The having people suck on you bit was already shown to be more glamorous than pleasurable (in #21, at the party, just before Harmony bags Soledad). Also, one doesn't necessarily have to drain at the neck. Didn't Riley get sucked elsewhere too? And yes, that did sound as dirty in my head. Also, Buffy drank from Dracula's wrist if I remember correctly. And hey, hangovers hurt like hell. To me at least... it's a complete waste of a day because I can't seem to function, other than wanting to throw up multiple times, depending on how bad it is.
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Post by Emmie on May 13, 2009 14:24:57 GMT -5
Frankly, I don't have trouble buying that people would enjoy the bite. Because it's always been depicted as a measure of pleasure and pain, so that's something people would clearly go into. Just look at all the vices people are addicted to and do despite that danger? That's what a vampire bite is.
...oh crap, I just called a vampire bite a drug metaphor. Kill me now.
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Post by wenxina on May 13, 2009 14:51:34 GMT -5
Well... remember Buffy's face when Angel was slurping on her in "Graduation Day, Pt 2"? I mean, if there was ever a moment that eroticized the vampire bite, that one would rank pretty high up there.
*stakes Emmie*
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Post by AndrewCrossett on May 13, 2009 15:00:24 GMT -5
I guess I'm just wondering where the pleasure aspect comes from. Why do people enjoy it?
Maybe I'm just not kinky enough.
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Post by wenxina on May 13, 2009 15:07:09 GMT -5
God... so vanilla! *stashes bullwhip* And yet you came up with that "ED in dominatrix gear being the cure for ED" line. Endorphins, my dear... as Elle Woods states : "Endorphins make you happy...". It's your body's natural defense against pain... I mean, I occasionally like to rub alcohol into my wounds while scrubbing them clean. What... I don't like infections...
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Post by Tyler Austin "tiewashere" on May 14, 2009 15:25:14 GMT -5
I guess I'm just wondering where the pleasure aspect comes from. Why do people enjoy it? Maybe I'm just not kinky enough. Ever seen True Blood? It's just like how people are into dominatrix and prisoner stuff (with the whips and pain and all). Just because you aren't into something doesn't mean everyone else feels the same as you. I could understand why you wouldn't want to do it but I think its a tad ridiculous to rule everyone else out and place them in your boat.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on May 14, 2009 15:42:37 GMT -5
Ever seen True Blood? It's just like how people are into dominatrix and prisoner stuff (with the whips and pain and all). Just because you aren't into something doesn't mean everyone else feels the same as you. I could understand why you wouldn't want to do it but I think its a tad ridiculous to rule everyone else out and place them in your boat. Which is why I did nothing of the kind. Saying you don't understand something is not the same as condemning it. Now is it?
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Post by Nicholas on May 15, 2009 17:49:20 GMT -5
I can believe that someone would get pleasure out of having themselves sucked on by a vamp. Look at people out there who find pleasure out of pain, who cut themselves...I think that may be the message of this oneshot: self mutilation is not good!
BTW, the preview pages look GREAT. Very intelligent and deep...about time we got back to that.
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Post by wenxina on May 15, 2009 17:59:32 GMT -5
BTW, the preview pages look GREAT. Very intelligent and deep...about time we got back to that. If by "very intelligent and deep" you mean very emo, I'll concur.
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Post by Nicholas on May 16, 2009 1:20:51 GMT -5
Emo, yes, but I feel with the recent Season 8 arc, we havent really gotten any deep, meaningful insight. This seems to thrive on that.
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Post by Rebecca on May 16, 2009 19:40:12 GMT -5
I can believe that someone would get pleasure out of having themselves sucked on by a vamp. Look at people out there who find pleasure out of pain, who cut themselves...I think that may be the message of this oneshot: self mutilation is not good! Speaking from personal experience, but I wouldn't put parasuicidal behavior such as self-mutilation in the same category as "pleasure" or akin to drug use. For me at least, it was less about craving, addiction, pleasure, and pain than it was needing to release something that was holding me in the dark. The drug and sex metaphors I believe fit much better. People (again, speaking from personal experience) don't get into self-mutilation because it's "cool" or "pleasurable". They are already in a bad place, and cutting is just a coping mechanism. Sure, getting bitten could be used in much the same way as cutting, but from the perspective this issue is coming, one wouldn't need a pre-existing condition (depression) to get into the "fad".
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