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Post by wenxina on Dec 14, 2010 22:16:48 GMT -5
Could we please wrap up the conversations here, and move them to the new forum?
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Post by wenxina on Dec 13, 2010 19:01:27 GMT -5
I don't think she was saying that it's hard. It's just a lot easier to multiple quote on the new forum. Been playing with it myself. I'm gonna miss this place... can't imagine when I started as a newbie with 0 posts, and 0 karma. It was a fun ride getting to where I am now. And hey, the new place is a little daunting. Not gonna lie. Some of us have been playing catch-up, trying to get boards repopulated and all. In fact, that's pretty much all I've been doing for the most part, so I haven't even really gotten to participate in discussion, because quite frankly, after moving some 20 or so threads... I just want to not think about what I wanna say.
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Post by wenxina on Dec 12, 2010 10:53:32 GMT -5
My review finally finished and dolled up with pics. Read it HERE. Comments are always welcome on the blog or here, and if it sparks more discussion, yay. I like the theory about Willow being one of the "vestiges" Aluwyn talked about. It leaves more ways for her to be pivotal in the fight and also brings more drama to her personal stories. And Joss does like his drama...
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Post by wenxina on Dec 11, 2010 13:25:05 GMT -5
coda |ˈkōdə| noun Music the concluding passage of a piece or movement, typically forming an addition to the basic structure. • the concluding section of a dance, esp. of a pas de deux or the finale of a ballet in which the dancers parade before the audience. • a concluding event, remark, or section : his new novel is a kind of coda to his previous books. ORIGIN mid 18th cent.: Italian, from Latin cauda ‘tail.’
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Post by wenxina on Dec 10, 2010 17:42:08 GMT -5
If that's so, then AC will be raising his Batsu flag high and proud, and tell me that didn't sound as dirty as I thought it did.
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Post by wenxina on Dec 10, 2010 17:26:51 GMT -5
If you read upthread, you'll see that not everyone thinks that Whistler was on the level this time around. He may or may not have known what the actual outcome was. Moot point. The point was to get Angel to do the Twilight gig. As I said, it's doubtful that the army knew exactly what was down there. It might be a logistics thing (hey, lots of portals opening here... something's here), or as we had previously seen, Spike's ship doesn't have good soundproofing. The General and the rest could just have easily heard stuff. As for the Buffy/Angel relationship... that remains to be seen. Buffy has shown herself to be a very forgiving person. She forgave her friends for tearing her out of heaven. She forgave Giles for going behind her back. She forgave Faith for her past sins (until she wrongly arrived at the conclusion that Faith was plotting behind her back again). She forgave Spike for trying to rape her. There's a lot of forgiveness going on. Do I necessarily think she should or will forgive Angel? Not really. Depends on the reason. And anyway... CBR's latest "Behind Buffy Season 8" is out HERE. And there's no need to ask Allie about the whole siring issue: he answers that here. And at least for now, I'll concede that AC and Dorotea were right about the whole siring issue.
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Post by wenxina on Dec 10, 2010 16:57:02 GMT -5
Whistler saw all the possible futures AND their outcomes. He told Angel that going down the Twilight path was the best. I doubt the army really knew about the Seed. They knew something was there, since Sunnydale had become a sort of hotspot for demonic activity. There were portals open all over. Spike learned about the Seed from the Fyarl demons. At least that's what he told us in #37. Other than Spike, Giles is probably the next most informed about the Seed. He had been looking for it all over Europe (it's the totem he had been looking for, the one that could kill a god). How he figured it out, we'll never know now, since he's dead. But a lot of solutions in the Buffyverse have been based on hunches. Did Buffy know for sure that jumping off the tower in "The Gift" would stop the apocalypse? Did she really know that Willow could tap into the essence of the Scythe to power all the girls? But the Seed issue is quite simple, in terms of logic. It's the source of all magic (supposedly). Breaking it means that magic is gone, then. Which means that whatever magical hold is on Angel would be broken, the dimensional gates would close, meaning that nothing else could get in. To a Big Picture Guy, that sounds great, since it would stop the world from ending. Whatever else happens after, it can't be worse than the world going kaplooey.
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Post by wenxina on Dec 10, 2010 16:40:12 GMT -5
Maybe because the alternative was even worse? For example, Angel refuses to follow Twilight's plan; Twilight chooses Roden and Gigi; they give birth to Twilight and bring him(her?) the Seed. Nobody can beat them, because they're Gods. And Earth dies. (I don't insist that I'm right here; I only say that there is such option. I suspect that Joss will leave it open to interpretation). I will give you a better alternative, one that they know before that there is a seed in Sunnydale, and just go there and destroy it before any Twilight kitty or mouse chooses 2 persons to ascend. One way or another, Twilight plan was NOT the best option available, Angel was manipulated and fooled like a 4 years old child that is afraid Santa won't be visiting this year if it's naughty. No one really knew anything about the Seed. Spike found out through some of his demon sources. Twilight may not have been the best option in retrospect, but hindsight is 20/20. We don't know what exactly Angel saw that would convince him that this plan was the better outcome. We don't know how the IDW books will segue into the S8 storyline. We may see what Angel saw, or we may get hints of what Angel saw.
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Post by wenxina on Dec 10, 2010 14:39:39 GMT -5
moscowwatcher: Yeah, that's the panel I was talking about. And I checked, as if I used both my hands to hold a pen, and there's no possibly way that those could both have been Buffy's hands. It would require two right hands. Also, it's a lot more weighted if she's picking up the Scythe from Giles' dead grasp, and finishing off what he had started. Dorotea: Giles may have had full access to the Seed in an earlier scene, but it was being guarded by the Master. Who was apparently fueled by the Seed, smacking Buffy down really easily. His only chance was when everyone was distracted. As for the Master, I think he was used because he's such an iconic figure in the mythos, AND because in terms of the TV show canon, he was Buffy's very first major foe. The one she faced when she truly wanted to just be a girl, but rose to the occasion anyway. In facing the Master, despite knowing that she would die, Buffy began her climb to her mythic status. It was really the beginning of her hero's journey. I'm sorry if I sound like I'm ignoring the movie that came before this, but other than a few references to her old life, the TV show largely ignored it, and I don't find it quite relevant to the point I'm making. (For that matter, how was the Twilight Being, or whatever you want to call it, able to talk to Angel before Angel and Buffy "gave birth" to it? Was this a Jasmine type of deal, where the being in question exists already in some form but needs to be "born" in order to come into full power? If so, where did it come from originally? What is it?) Because time isn't linear? At least according to Willow. Also, assuming that the universe is cognizant, is it necessarily different from the Twilight one? Removing the Seed dooms Earth. But another reality is waiting to take its place. According to the natural order of things, the old Earth dies so that the young one may live. Earth was deemed unsalvageable when Twilight was put into motion. The ascensions were the cosmic reward, to rise above the old and build a new world (hazy concept, really). But is the universe inherently different? Couldn't the Twilight entity be an aspect, a manifestation if you will, of a facet of the universe. The one that was born and then neglected?
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Post by wenxina on Dec 10, 2010 10:53:33 GMT -5
Sidebar: I dunno if Drusilla's powers got stronger, of it was just because she was bat-poop crazy by the time she was sired, that she started to listen to them more. As a human, Drusilla was a devout Catholic, and believed that her Sight was not wholesome, that it was the devil whispering to her. That's why she went to confess. In other words, she fought against her visions, instead of wholly embracing them after her siring.
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Post by wenxina on Dec 10, 2010 8:20:19 GMT -5
Thanks, Jaz. The symmetry of the narrative just jumped out at me as I was reading the issue. S8 may have been clumsily executed at times, but when it's done right, it's so good. Willow has much to be upset about right now, and we'll see what becomes of her friendship with Buffy, but in all fairness, she's done the same thing before, in a way.
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Post by wenxina on Dec 10, 2010 8:16:05 GMT -5
actually last i read Buffy & Angel will run for 24 issues each over two years.. thats 48 issues together, then including the Willow and Spike spin-offs which could be between 4 and 12 issues long each.. thats a minimum of 56 issues & a maximum of 72 issues in two years thats just ridiculously expensive just for "Season Nine".. if your not sure.. u can keep updated here buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Season_Nine on season nine. That's assuming that there are no breaks at any point, which is hard to imagine. And a Wiki page is really not the best source of information for anything. Especially since I don't see any citations for anything quoted. Also, most of what we know about S9 so far was either revealed to us or Buffyfest, with tidbits from other media, like CBR.
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Post by wenxina on Dec 10, 2010 1:52:44 GMT -5
Tru Calling... cancelled after 2 seasons. Dollhouse... cancelled after 2 seasons. Now shes not even getting to tv. I wonder if she now wishes she had done Faith: The Vampire Slayer ? Which, like any other show, may not have gotten past the pilot, and even if it did, may not have gone past the first season. Shows get cancelled for a variety of reasons. And the Faith spinoff could just have easily been canned.
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Post by wenxina on Dec 10, 2010 1:29:26 GMT -5
I've always wondered what would happen if a slayer was turned into a vampire. When a regular person is turned, the demon dramatically ups their strength, senses, etc. But what would happen if the person (a slayer) already had dramatically upped strength, senses, etc, before they were turned? Would we have a vampire with herculean strength? Some almost invincibility? That would make a very interesting story actually. Buffy having to fight a previous slayer now vampire who has basically become She-Hulk. We do have a thread for this discussion HERE.
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Post by wenxina on Dec 10, 2010 1:03:07 GMT -5
Thanks. Remind me to keep an eye on the rambunctious Swede, then.
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Post by wenxina on Dec 10, 2010 0:53:32 GMT -5
I have a dilemma. (Double posting is allowed in this thread now, right?) No.
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Post by wenxina on Dec 10, 2010 0:49:16 GMT -5
I don't think vBulletin allows for username editing! Once it's done, it might be for good (not sure). Thank the gods for little mercies.
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Post by wenxina on Dec 10, 2010 0:45:38 GMT -5
My review finally finished and dolled up with pics. Read it HERE. Comments are always welcome on the blog or here, and if it sparks more discussion, yay.
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Post by wenxina on Dec 9, 2010 23:39:21 GMT -5
We now have a title! Check it out HERE. Also, I'd love for Michelle Yeoh to be in this movie. Fellow Malaysian pride aside, she's played total badass women in the past (see her Hong Kong film career).
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Post by wenxina on Dec 9, 2010 17:44:23 GMT -5
Did SMG approve that usage of her likeness?
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