Slayer Dawn

[vampiresaiyan]

You know it has always bothered me that Dawn did not become a potential. I understand the development of the show and that it would kind of be tired out like ohhh big surprise. But the fact that the monks did make dawn out of buffy to me seems like Dawn would obviously be a potential. But I guess maybe being chosen doesn't matter about who's blood you have. But yeah always kinda bugged me.

[whitecandy]

I think she would have been a good potential, as annoying as she could be, there was no way she would ever be annoying as Kennedy

[joxerlives]

I kind prefer that Dawn isn't another Potential, she's special enough as it is

[CourtneyDax]

I think Dawn would make a better Watcher than a Slayer. She was always good at research and she knew when to step back. Maybe not right now, but later on, Dawn could join the Watcher program.

[-'Goldilocks]

I like Dawn the way she is. She dosnt need to be a slayer. We already love her.

[Hallow Thorn]

I really just want her to become the key again, but I was upset when it turned out she wasn't a slayer in season 7.

[Tea - Total]

I think it will spoil her concept of character, she was created and now she be a potential slayer. I think she very unique ,created by monks.

[joxerlives]

Feb 16, 2010 4:42:23 GMT -5 -'Goldilocks said:

I like Dawn the way she is. She dosnt need to be a slayer. We already love her.

Amen

[Tea - Total]

Feb 16, 2010 9:04:14 GMT -5 joxerlives said:

Feb 16, 2010 4:42:23 GMT -5 -'Goldilocks said:

I like Dawn the way she is. She dosnt need to be a slayer. We already love her.

Amen

Amen too.

[juniorwatcher]

I agree with Courtney, my favorite Dawn is Season 7 era Dawn where she was juniorwatcher gal, and she was good with the potentials and Buffy started training her in the beginning of the season. Now shes's back to being whiney.

[buffyfan21]

I think it could have been potentially interesting if they had explored the idea of Dawn being a slayer, but alas they decided to go a different route with her character. As others have said, I like the idea of Dawn being a sort of "watcher junior" for the group. S7 Dawn is definitely my fave as well.

[Joe]

Feb 16, 2010 5:04:05 GMT -5 Hallow Thorn said:

I really just want her to become the key again, but I was upset when it turned out she wasn't a slayer in season 7.

How would key-Dawn be different from regular Dawn? Lol. The only thing the key allowed her to do was open portals and bleed the worlds together. We know that's not gonna happen... lol. You can pretend that she's still the key if you'd like.

[Skytteflickan88]

I want this Key business to be brought up again. I know she said that she "used to be a key" or however she and Andrew put it(she might have said that she just couldn't open anything anymore, even if she's still the key), but I still don't get how she could cease to be what she is, the Key in human shape. Did the ritual in The Gift do all that? Isn't she usuable again, can't open more doors? How do you change such a powerful beings essence? That was never explained.

I think that could be more interesting than a slayer arc would have been, since we already know a lot(compared to other being) about slayers. But I think I was disappointed when I first watched Potential, that it wasn't she that was a potential. Now however, when there's lots of slayers, she seems more special.

On the other hand, with Willow being a mega-witch, keeping Dawn completely human might be more interesting than giving her superpowers, or having a villain trying to harness her energy.

Second thought, that last one might be cool for a mini series. Seeing her Key-ness becoming a big mess.

Yep. I used a lame rhyme. You better not laugh or

[Hallow Thorn]

Feb 16, 2010 17:27:45 GMT -5 Joe said:

Feb 16, 2010 5:04:05 GMT -5 Hallow Thorn said:

I really just want her to become the key again, but I was upset when it turned out she wasn't a slayer in season 7.

The only thing the key allowed her to do was open portals and bleed.....

Feb 16, 2010 17:46:42 GMT -5 Skytteflickan88 said:

I want this Key business to be brought up again. I know she said that she "used to be a key" or however she and Andrew put it(she might have said that she just couldn't open anything anymore, even if she's still the key), but I still don't get how she could cease to be what she is, the Key in human shape. Did the ritual in The Gift do all that? Isn't she usuable again, can't open more doors? How do you change such a powerful beings essence? That was never explained.

I think that could be more interesting than a slayer arc would have been, since we already know a lot(compared to other being) about slayers. But I think I was disappointed when I first watched Potential, that it wasn't she that was a potential. Now however, when there's lots of slayers, she seems more special.

On the other hand, with Willow being a mega-witch, keeping Dawn completely human might be more interesting than giving her superpowers, or having a villain trying to harness her energy.

Second thought, that last one might be cool for a mini series. Seeing her Key-ness becoming a big mess.

Yep. I used a lame rhyme. You better not laugh or

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I want her powerful essence used as the key that banished all demons and forms of magic from this dimension like stated in 'Fray'.

[Eric]

I don't understand why people say that because she was made from Buffy she should've been a slayer. She's not Buffy. She's not Buffy's clone. She's not a carbon copy of Buffy. Whatever the monks did while creating Dawn they obviously changed things from Buffy. If she was a potential she could've been a slayer (under the original rules of the slayer line). Why would the monks want that? It's said a million times throughout the series the life of a slayer is (typically) short and brutal.

Besides, slayer Dawn would've been kind of boring if you ask me. There were tons of potentials in the house during that episode, so we already new somewhat what it was like to be a potential. What would we, as viewers, learn from Dawn being a potential that we already didn't know? I think she would've just got lost in the shuffle. The part towards the end of "Potential" (I'm getting real tired of typing that word), with Xander and Dawn, it summed up so perfectly what Dawn and Xander were going through the past few years. Yes, Dawn is the key and it was a major plot point in season five, but being a key never gave Dawn powers like Willow or Buffy. She was more or less helpless against Glory and relied on the Scobbies to protect and save her. Throughout season six she more or less stayed in the background while Willow brought Buffy back to life, went evil and tried to destroy the world while Buffy was having sex with a vampire and wondering if she was still human. I think the story of Dawn growing up, dealing with the fact she isn't a superhero and finding her own strengths and talents is much more interesting than seeing her suddenly become a superhero.

[Skytteflickan88]

The thing about how slayer's lives are short and brutal is very true, one of the top reasons the monks wouldn't want Dawn as a slayer. I didn't think of that.

On the other hand, making the Key helpless isn't all that good either, unless the monks really thought it would be really hard for Glory to find the Key and assumed it best she'd be a background character, not superhero-ish(they might not have thought of the spell Glory used to put on the snake).

[Eric]

Feb 17, 2010 6:05:21 GMT -5 Skytteflickan88 said:

The thing about how slayer's lives are short and brutal is very true, one of the top reasons the monks wouldn't want Dawn as a slayer. I didn't think of that.

On the other hand, making the Key helpless isn't all that good either, unless the monks really thought it would be really hard for Glory to find the Key and assumed it best she'd be a background character, not superhero-ish(they might not have thought of the spell Glory used to put on the snake).

Well, I guess they had to compare whether they wanted to give her superpowers and put her at risk when undoubtedly tries to use those powers for good or give her no way to defend herself at all, so she'd always be on the sidelines.

Remember how Glory could totally kick Buffy's ass? Now imagine if that was a slayer-Dawn instead of Buffy. Instead of making her black and blue and moving on, she'd snatch her up and make her bleed. Even if Dawn had superpowers they'd be pretty useless against Glory. Hell, Buffy used the hammer of Gods against Glory and still didn't get there in time.

The brute strength of a Slayer failed against Glory every single time. Running and hiding at least worked for a little while.

[Tea - Total]

Feb 16, 2010 18:25:48 GMT -5 Eric said:

I don't understand why people say that because she was made from Buffy she should've been a slayer. She's not Buffy. She's not Buffy's clone. She's not a carbon copy of Buffy. Whatever the monks did while creating Dawn they obviously changed things from Buffy. If she was a potential she could've been a slayer (under the original rules of the slayer line). Why would the monks want that? It's said a million times throughout the series the life of a slayer is (typically) short and brutal.

I thought Dawn was made from Buffy , Buffy told Dawn they both shared "Summers blood"(blood ties), Buffy's proclamation that "the monks made Dawn out of Buffy. Thats why Buffy self-sacrifice occurred , to Un activate the portal. If thats the case Buffy died for nothing.





By the way you have to get chosen , it not the case of blood relatives. Or is it.............

[Eric]

Feb 17, 2010 8:18:48 GMT -5 Tea - Total said:

Feb 16, 2010 18:25:48 GMT -5 Eric said:

I don't understand why people say that because she was made from Buffy she should've been a slayer. She's not Buffy. She's not Buffy's clone. She's not a carbon copy of Buffy. Whatever the monks did while creating Dawn they obviously changed things from Buffy. If she was a potential she could've been a slayer (under the original rules of the slayer line). Why would the monks want that? It's said a million times throughout the series the life of a slayer is (typically) short and brutal.

I thought Dawn was made from Buffy , Buffy told Dawn they both shared "Summers blood"(blood ties), Buffy's proclamation that "the monks made Dawn out of Buffy. Thats why Buffy self-sacrifice occurred , to Un activate the portal. If thats the case Buffy died for nothing.





By the way you have to get chosen , it not the case of blood relatives. Or is it.............

Yes. She was made from Buffy, but my point is she isn't Buffy's clone or anything. The monks obviously changed things from the transition from Buffy to Dawn (brown hair, bolder features, taller) and not being a slayer / potential was obviously one of them.

[Tea - Total]

Feb 17, 2010 15:54:26 GMT -5 Eric said:

Feb 17, 2010 8:18:48 GMT -5 Tea - Total said:

I thought Dawn was made from Buffy , Buffy told Dawn they both shared "Summers blood"(blood ties), Buffy's proclamation that "the monks made Dawn out of Buffy. Thats why Buffy self-sacrifice occurred , to Un activate the portal. If thats the case Buffy died for nothing.





By the way you have to get chosen , it not the case of blood relatives. Or is it.............

Yes. She was made from Buffy, but my point is she isn't Buffy's clone or anything. The monks obviously changed things from the transition from Buffy to Dawn (brown hair, bolder features, taller) and not being a slayer / potential was obviously one of them.

I agree its like any sister or brother or else you are twin.