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Post by Tea - Total on Feb 25, 2010 5:12:58 GMT -5
The development of the character have been upgraded, now we see them all grow up in to adults. Every character development grew with time, realistic themes to show understanding of the responsibilities of true life. Each character had a path and a role to face responsibilities ,consequences and even choices, which is a good thing because when i watch this season i put my own experience to a character and i follow that character to the end. Which makes Buffy season 6 so appealing and realistic to the audience. This season is much darker then previous season, but i like it. Arrange of episode were excellent. The ending was excellent to show the capabilities of Willow true nature of power. The big bad ,the mythology wasn't that evil but it was realistic to show a human with a soul was evil. Warren was desirably evil, he had no remorse of his actions, but again, we have them characters in today society. Which was an realistic theme of the character,an interesting turn to the big bad , we have a gang of humans , the trio.
Character development, 10/10 Storyline. 10/10 fightscene 9/10 Thrilling 10/10 Overal 10/10
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Post by wytchcroft on Feb 26, 2010 1:26:29 GMT -5
wow. 10 out of 10??? are you sure? i love a lot of season 6 - and it's generally underrated but... 10 out of 10???
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Post by Tea - Total on Feb 26, 2010 2:54:13 GMT -5
wow. 10 out of 10??? are you sure? i love a lot of season 6 - and it's generally underrated but... 10 out of 10??? Yes, its a really excellent season. The development of the character are fresher then before. The big bad has changed into a human which could relate to the real world... Buffy got dragged out from heaven into hell which again relate to the real world because this world is hard to live in.... And its my opinion?. Whats your thought of this season.
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Post by Jaz ♀♀ on Feb 26, 2010 3:15:58 GMT -5
It was a great season....i would give it 10/10 as well if there wasn't 2 things i didn't like about it.
-Tara dying (-2pt) -Willow turning into a junkie (-1pt)
Tally it all up minus those 3 points....i give the season a 7/10.
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Post by Tea - Total on Feb 26, 2010 5:37:01 GMT -5
It was a great season....i would give it 10/10 as well if there wasn't 2 things i didn't like about it. -Tara dying (-2pt) -Willow turning into a junkie (-1pt) Tally it all up minus those 3 points....i give the season a 7/10. I think Tara death was necessary, to show willow true nature of power. It succeed she become the most powerful being in the buffyverse, a couple of episode and she nearly destroying the world, WOW. Willow turning to an junkie was okkay, to show how out of control willow really is and its nice how she survived the drug addiction and that inspires people ,to quit.
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Post by buffyfan21 on Feb 26, 2010 21:05:59 GMT -5
I am currently doing a rewatch of S6. I agree with you that this season has a much darker feel than previous seasons, almost to the point of being depressing at times. I like the dark nature of this season, though, because it reflects what it's like to be a young adult trying to make through life, which I think is something we can all relate to. I appreciate how this season touches on the mundanes of human existence. There are those fans that complain about this season being a drastic departure from the others in terms of mood, but I mean c'mon, Buffy had just come back from death, she had been torn out of heaven. That being said, I think it would have been unrealistic if the consequences of that action had not been dealt with. I think to not do so would have been a disservice to all that we love about the show in the first place, which is its ability to reflect, and be a mirror for real life. So dark, though it may be, I think the themes explored in S6 adequately serve the plot and storyline. Admittedly, I would not rank these season as my absolute fave, but I can't say that I despise it either. I value and appreciate S6 for what it is, and for what it brought to us as fans. Overall, I think I would give this season a solid 7 and a half/8.
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Post by NightlySorrow on Feb 26, 2010 22:25:00 GMT -5
I hate most of season 6, especially the middle. Everything from Smashed to Hell's Bell's. And All the Way is no picnic either. It's always interesting seeing some fans praise this season. I try to relate, and try to understand where they're coming from, but I can't see it the way they see it. It's a depressing, very unfun year. I like the idea of the season, but the execution of it was badly done. I do love Once More with Feeling though, and Tabula Rasa is great too.
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Post by El Diablo Robotico on Feb 27, 2010 1:07:56 GMT -5
I'll give S6 credit for a couple of things: 1) the arc made consistent sense from beginning to end, and the writers seemed to not only know where they were going, but also how they wanted to get there; and 2) the focus remained firmly on the characters throughout. You can't say the same about S7, unfortunately, so give 6 props for that. But still, I rank it near the bottom on my list, ahead of only 1 and 7. It just wasn't necessary to make every single character as miserable as possible all at the same time. It would've been nice if they could've at least had one happy thing happen during the year, like Xander & Anya get married. The Willow storyline also comes off as very contrived. Suddenly, after 5 years, it's, "Oh, by the way, magic is very addictive and self-destructive." And don't even get me started on the warlock dope-dealers who you can go to who'll do 'spells' on you that work just like crack. If the show had ended after 5 seasons, what would you have thought of a fanfic that introduced these ideas, completely out of nowhere, with no previous grounding in canon? Like I said: it's too contrived. And is it a great season if it makes me hate 2 of the 3 main characters? Because Xander and Willow did things that made me not able to stand them for large portions of the year. Willow's good enough in the other 6 years to make up for it, and keep me as a fan of hers, but in Xander's case, it's just too much, and the dislike of him became permanent (see my Xander thread). So on a scale of 1 to 10? Meh, 6.5 or 7. There's a lot of great stuff mixed in there that still makes it really fun to watch, but the huge number of sad and depressing moments make me wanna slit my wrists at times...
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Post by Tea - Total on Feb 27, 2010 11:00:23 GMT -5
I think this season is great to understand true nature of life, which i relate. Which makes Buffy season 6 so appealing and realistic to the audience. Thats why i think i appreciate this season. The arrange of demon were realistically done and we have plenty of cools demons to watch. I thought Warren as a character was desirably evil, he had no remorse of his actions, but again, we have them characters in today society. Which was an realistic theme. Which i appreciate. If i think back this season isn't better then season 5 so i am going to re - mark my review. Character development, 10/10. Storyline. 8/10. fight scene 9/10. Thrilling 9/10. Overall 9/10. I just watched bargaining , part 1 and 2,Buffy resurrection goes unnoticed as Razors gang creates havoc in Sunnydale. Confused and disoriented, Buffy wanders through the carnage and eventually runs into the scoobies, who realise that she had to dig her way from her own grave. Wild eyed Buffy awakening in her coffin was splendid special effects, and her subsequently, busting into the surface was amazing. A great start to this season.
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Post by wytchcroft on Feb 27, 2010 17:27:31 GMT -5
wow. 10 out of 10??? are you sure? i love a lot of season 6 - and it's generally underrated but... 10 out of 10??? And its my opinion?. Whats your thought of this season. oh i'm sorry if my post sounded angry to you, i was just disconcerted, of course you have every right to your opinion i would never deny that - like i say, i was just surprised. i love a whole bunch of S6 - OMWF, Tabla Rasa as two obvious examples. And the fact that the big bad was life itself not some incarnation of it*. And Steven S.DeKnight bring genuine darkness to the show and moral complexity... but (IMO) there are chunks of time where the shows seems to be tired, whether within one episode like Bargaining (pt 2 especially) or in the season as a whole, after Giles leaves and again after Dead Things. When SMG sings "Going through the motions" i think Joss is commenting directly, just as Gunn in Angel 4 when he says "this is like some turgid soap opera". i really like Andrew and Johnathan and the season is Clem-tastic too but the Willow arc is badly botched compared to previous seasons. once again, sorry if i offended you, my fave season is 5 and i'm known to get real drooly over it but i wouldn't give anything 10 out of 10 not even season 5, though it sure comes close i feel. *oh wait, except. oops! sigh.
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Post by Tea - Total on Feb 28, 2010 14:05:48 GMT -5
And its my opinion?. Whats your thought of this season. oh i'm sorry if my post sounded angry to you, i was just disconcerted, of course you have every right to your opinion i would never deny that - like i say, i was just surprised. i love a whole bunch of S6 - OMWF, Tabla Rasa as two obvious examples. And the fact that the big bad was life itself not some incarnation of it*. And Steven S.DeKnight bring genuine darkness to the show and moral complexity... but (IMO) there are chunks of time where the shows seems to be tired, whether within one episode like Bargaining (pt 2 especially) or in the season as a whole, after Giles leaves and again after Dead Things. When SMG sings "Going through the motions" i think Joss is commenting directly, just as Gunn in Angel 4 when he says "this is like some turgid soap opera". i really like Andrew and Johnathan and the season is Clem-tastic too but the Willow arc is badly botched compared to previous seasons. once again, sorry if i offended you, my fave season is 5 and i'm known to get real drooly over it but i wouldn't give anything 10 out of 10 not even season 5, though it sure comes close i feel. *oh wait, except. oops! sigh. Its alright you didn't offend me, i appreciate your opinion and some of i agree with..I really like Willow arc as a finale but i do agree it wasn't magnificent as the gift. Its just the finale show willow capabilities and her true nature of power, she did come really powerful. She can sense everybody inner feeling and emotion.
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Post by henzINNIT on Feb 28, 2010 14:46:26 GMT -5
I think this season is great to understand true nature of life, which i relate. Which makes Buffy season 6 so appealing and realistic to the audience. How does season 6 depict the true nature of life? How is it realistic? I don't understand this notion at all. Very few of the troubles really reflect real situations and I doubt many people have a year as exclusively, consistantly gut-punching as this. The theme "Life is the Big Bad" always kind of bothered me because Buffy was always about life, but it dealt in metaphor. Stripping the show of its physical "monsters" doesn't have much appeal to me, and the season reflects that with its miserable characters and distinct lack of energy. Tara's death was cheap, Willow's overnight turn into a crack-whore was worse. Xander leaving Anya at the altar was senseless, just the writers pushing the pain button to excess. Giles leaving was unfortunate and unavoidable, but I really did miss him. There were obviously no plans for Dawn after season 5. I did like Buffy's story. OMWF is brilliant. I'd give the season a 7 at a push because Buffy is Buffy, and honestly even when it's bad I'll still enjoy it (except for Hell Bells - what a piece distended rectum)
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Post by Tea - Total on Feb 28, 2010 15:24:32 GMT -5
I think this season is great to understand true nature of life, which i relate. Which makes Buffy season 6 so appealing and realistic to the audience. How does season 6 depict the true nature of life? How is it realistic? I don't understand this notion at all. Very few of the troubles really reflect real situations and I doubt many people have a year as exclusively, consistantly gut-punching as this. The theme "Life is the Big Bad" always kind of bothered me because Buffy was always about life, but it dealt in metaphor. Stripping the show of its physical "monsters" doesn't have much appeal to me, and the season reflects that with its miserable characters and distinct lack of energy. Tara's death was cheap, Willow's overnight turn into a crack-whore was worse. Xander leaving Anya at the altar was senseless, just the writers pushing the pain button to excess. Giles leaving was unfortunate and unavoidable, but I really did miss him. There were obviously no plans for Dawn after season 5. I did like Buffy's story. OMWF is brilliant. I'd give the season a 7 at a push because Buffy is Buffy, and honestly even when it's bad I'll still enjoy it (except for Hell Bells - what a piece distended rectum) Because this season is all about grown up, the character development was splendid to show the whole subject of grown up, its not easy. Thats why i appreciate it and its so appealing to the audience because we can relate it to our own experience of grown up. The choices and the consequence we go through, like for an example Buffy mature enough to be a grown up and be a responsible adult figure for Dawn and she learned to look after Dawn , thats why Giles left he thought it would be better of him to leave and let Buffy defend herself in life. Because she relied on him all the time, how would she learn. Xander/Anya relationship he made the choices and he wasn't ready to get married. Willow addiction, people make wrong choices in life and its nice to have a role model to follow ,she survived the drug addiction and that inspires people ,to quit. I think all the characters grown up and accept adult responsibilities, make mistakes, and grow as individuals.
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Post by mrdomino on Mar 2, 2010 10:25:02 GMT -5
Overall, I like this season more than most people, but I still disagree with a few of the dramatic choices it made. I didn't have a whole lot of problem's with Willow's addiction. Despite it coming somewhat out of the blue, I also felt that for the most part, it worked. However, the death of Tara was uncalled for. Willow got just as pissed in S5 when Glory did the mojo on her, so even if Tara was horribly wounded or otherwise incapacitated to the point of Willow not knowing if she was coming back, you still could have had Darth Rosenburg coming about. Killing Tara just didn't work for me, because the Willow/Tara romance was one of the best things about the show.
The biggest sin of the season, though, was Xander leaving Anya. Xander has always been my favorite character, because he's so much like me personally, and so I understand the choice he made, and why he made it, but I don't agree with it even from a personal perspective, and I certainly don't agree with it from a dramatic standpoint. Yes, it was showing that even the best of us can be morally flawed, but frankly, I don't necessarily need that in my entertainment. All that being said, though, I loved the way Xander and Anya were handled in S7.
Joss does seem to have a thing about relationships with unhappy endings, though, doesn't he?
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Post by Eric on Mar 2, 2010 10:38:31 GMT -5
Overall, I like this season more than most people, but I still disagree with a few of the dramatic choices it made. I didn't have a whole lot of problem's with Willow's addiction. Despite it coming somewhat out of the blue, I also felt that for the most part, it worked. However, the death of Tara was uncalled for. Willow got just as pissed in S5 when Glory did the mojo on her, so even if Tara was horribly wounded or otherwise incapacitated to the point of Willow not knowing if she was coming back, you still could have had Darth Rosenburg coming about. Killing Tara just didn't work for me, because the Willow/Tara romance was one of the best things about the show. I agree that Twillow was one of the best things about the show, but I think her death was somewhat necessary. Joss has said many times life itself was the big bad of season six and death is a major part of life. It also turned Willow evil and gave the scoobies a big bad that couldn't be defeated by Buffy punching it a whole bunch, which was an interesting change, IMO. The biggest sin of the season, though, was Xander leaving Anya. Xander has always been my favorite character, because he's so much like me personally, and so I understand the choice he made, and why he made it, but I don't agree with it even from a personal perspective, and I certainly don't agree with it from a dramatic standpoint. Yes, it was showing that even the best of us can be morally flawed, but frankly, I don't necessarily need that in my entertainment. All that being said, though, I loved the way Xander and Anya were handled in S7. I never really was too pissed or annoyed that Anya and Xander didn't get married, but after giving it some thought, I think it would be kind of interesting. Xander was always the one without superpowers and Anya was the one dealing with the loss of superpowers, so I think it would be kinda cool to see them try to have a normal, healthy marriage with the craziness of Sunnydale and the Scoobies. Also, call me crazy, but Anya getting pregnant in season seven sounds appealing. It would give her more stuff to do in the later part of the season and it might've prevented Joss from killing her. Joss does seem to have a thing about relationships with unhappy endings, though, doesn't he? Yep.
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Post by Tea - Total on Mar 2, 2010 11:51:23 GMT -5
Totally agree about the life and death, which relate to the real world.Tara death was necessary but in a good way , because we see willow becoming a powerful witch driving truck mama.
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Post by henzINNIT on Mar 2, 2010 12:44:50 GMT -5
How does season 6 depict the true nature of life? How is it realistic? I don't understand this notion at all. Very few of the troubles really reflect real situations and I doubt many people have a year as exclusively, consistantly gut-punching as this. The theme "Life is the Big Bad" always kind of bothered me because Buffy was always about life, but it dealt in metaphor. Stripping the show of its physical "monsters" doesn't have much appeal to me, and the season reflects that with its miserable characters and distinct lack of energy. Tara's death was cheap, Willow's overnight turn into a crack-whore was worse. Xander leaving Anya at the altar was senseless, just the writers pushing the pain button to excess. Giles leaving was unfortunate and unavoidable, but I really did miss him. There were obviously no plans for Dawn after season 5. I did like Buffy's story. OMWF is brilliant. I'd give the season a 7 at a push because Buffy is Buffy, and honestly even when it's bad I'll still enjoy it (except for Hell Bells - what a piece distended rectum) Because this season is all about grown up, the character development was splendid to show the whole subject of grown up, its not easy. Thats why i appreciate it and its so appealing to the audience because we can relate it to our own experience of grown up. The choices and the consequence we go through, like for an example Buffy mature enough to be a grown up and be a responsible adult figure for Dawn and she learned to look after Dawn , thats why Giles left he thought it would be better of him to leave and let Buffy defend herself in life. Because she relied on him all the time, how would she learn. Xander/Anya relationship he made the choices and he wasn't ready to get married. Willow addiction, people make wrong choices in life and its nice to have a role model to follow ,she survived the drug addiction and that inspires people ,to quit. I think all the characters grown up and accept adult responsibilities, make mistakes, and grow as individuals. I don't see that in season 6. Like I said, I enjoyed Buffy's struggle and her evasion of responsibility; but she lives in a house with one child and two other adults. They would get student loans, and at least occassionally worked in the magic box. In the real world, Buffy's "desperate" money situation wouldn't exist. It wasn't nice of Giles to leave Willow and Tara is this poor financial state, but the writers had to force Buffy into a fast food place somehow. I don't know how many guys leave the love of their life at the altar in real life but if so, I wonder if it is as contrived as it was on Buffy. The quiet terror Xander went through beforehand was nicely done, the wedding episode was soap level bad. Willow's addiction was terribly handled, it wasn't even remotely like drugs until "Wrecked", when her story took a nose-dive. It went from a truely terrifying relationship with power to crack whore in 40 minutes. Buffy grew up. Xander and Willow merely ruined their own lives with stupid decisions.
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Post by Tea - Total on Mar 2, 2010 15:30:57 GMT -5
Because this season is all about grown up, the character development was splendid to show the whole subject of grown up, its not easy. Thats why i appreciate it and its so appealing to the audience because we can relate it to our own experience of grown up. The choices and the consequence we go through, like for an example Buffy mature enough to be a grown up and be a responsible adult figure for Dawn and she learned to look after Dawn , thats why Giles left he thought it would be better of him to leave and let Buffy defend herself in life. Because she relied on him all the time, how would she learn. Xander/Anya relationship he made the choices and he wasn't ready to get married. Willow addiction, people make wrong choices in life and its nice to have a role model to follow ,she survived the drug addiction and that inspires people ,to quit. I think all the characters grown up and accept adult responsibilities, make mistakes, and grow as individuals. I don't see that in season 6. Like I said, I enjoyed Buffy's struggle and her evasion of responsibility; but she lives in a house with one child and two other adults. They would get student loans, and at least occassionally worked in the magic box. In the real world, Buffy's "desperate" money situation wouldn't exist. It wasn't nice of Giles to leave Willow and Tara is this poor financial state, but the writers had to force Buffy into a fast food place somehow. I don't know how many guys leave the love of their life at the altar in real life but if so, I wonder if it is as contrived as it was on Buffy. The quiet terror Xander went through beforehand was nicely done, the wedding episode was soap level bad. Willow's addiction was terribly handled, it wasn't even remotely like drugs until "Wrecked", when her story took a nose-dive. It went from a truely terrifying relationship with power to crack whore in 40 minutes. Buffy grew up. Xander and Willow merely ruined their own lives with stupid decisions. I agree , Xander wedding was badly done. But again he made his choice that he didn't want to face the responsible in life with a women , yet. But for me the willow addiction was a nice comfort to people who actually went through a drug addictions, so their get inspiration from the show to help them,quit. I think every character grown up and accept adult responsibilities, make mistakes, and grow as individuals, like for an example Xander wedding decision.
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Post by El Diablo Robotico on Mar 2, 2010 16:08:52 GMT -5
I don't see that in season 6. Like I said, I enjoyed Buffy's struggle and her evasion of responsibility; but she lives in a house with one child and two other adults. They would get student loans, and at least occassionally worked in the magic box. In the real world, Buffy's "desperate" money situation wouldn't exist. It wasn't nice of Giles to leave Willow and Tara is this poor financial state, but the writers had to force Buffy into a fast food place somehow. I don't know how many guys leave the love of their life at the altar in real life but if so, I wonder if it is as contrived as it was on Buffy. The quiet terror Xander went through beforehand was nicely done, the wedding episode was soap level bad. Willow's addiction was terribly handled, it wasn't even remotely like drugs until "Wrecked", when her story took a nose-dive. It went from a truely terrifying relationship with power to crack whore in 40 minutes. Buffy grew up. Xander and Willow merely ruined their own lives with stupid decisions. Couldn't have said it better--same goes for your earlier comment about the writers just getting way too carried away jamming their fingers down on the "PAIN" button that year. Things get to the point with Xander and Willow that I almost want to just give both of them a complete pass, and pretend that the stuff they did in S6 never happened. It just gets so ridiculously over-the-top that it almost takes me out of the story and makes me say, "No, Xander and Willow wouldn't do these things on their own without Marti and all the other little puppetmasters making them." The wedding thing is really the worst offense (by the writers) of all, because it clearly wasn't planned as a set-up for anything. It didn't launch Xander or Anya into any great new character arcs. It was done only because it fit with the overall theme of the season: "Pain and misery--the more, the better!! " There's nothing that happened in the remainder of S6, or in S7 that would've been majorly upset by Xander and Anya being married, and it would've made all the other painful happenings of S6 so much easier to take if there'd been even one nice, happy event to cling onto...
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Post by Tea - Total on Mar 3, 2010 3:06:05 GMT -5
I think Buffy grew more stronger in this season and more responsible for her action and Dawn welfare.I think Buffy grew more amateur but funny at the same time, thats Buffy.
I think the only reason their produce Willow into a junkie for because their need to show the audience how willow is coming more powerful every day, so the bronze was really good to show her abilities of magic at that stage. Distorting reality's,Willow became increasingly irresponsible of the magics she using. It was nice to see her get of it. I think all the scoobies accept adult responsibilities, make mistakes, and grow as individuals as the show produced.
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