rufio
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Post by rufio on Dec 12, 2009 18:52:22 GMT -5
it is entertaining to see kilo in random little moments. i wish we got to know more dolls in the house-something we surely would've seen had not FOX cancelled our show!
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Post by Rebecca on Dec 13, 2009 15:30:25 GMT -5
I think the auto-imprint thing Echo is going on really makes the show 100x better. Movie??!??!??!?!!!
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Alexiness
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Post by Alexiness on Dec 15, 2009 3:38:23 GMT -5
And I thought last week's double episode blew me away. This week's double was so epic.
Topher trusting in Adelle and her completely screwing him over and his reaction to it made me just love Topher's character. I never thought that much of him before but that bit just made my heart break.
And Paul! I didn't think he'd turn down Echo like that after everything with him last season.
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Post by Rebecca on Dec 16, 2009 15:18:43 GMT -5
I can see why Ballard turned Echo down after what he went through with Mellie/November.
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Post by joxerlives on Nov 16, 2010 15:17:14 GMT -5
Meet Jane Doe The good; The subtle struggle for power within the Dollhouse is truly nailbiting stuff, especially the final scene between Topher and Adele. Some lovely little touches showing how much the Dollhouse has changed since Adele is no longer in charge, cigars in Adele's office, Boyd's security guys with their feet up.
The bad; Do we really think a girl as gorgeous as Echo needs to shoplift or scrounge from bins? Couldn't she just charm her way through life in the manner of 'The Sexless Innkeeper'? Personally I don't find the jail storyline all that involving, it just doesn't seem much of a challenge to our girl when we've seen her do so much more. Also it seems unecessarily complex, why not just have Ballard take the Mexican girl into custody as his FBI witness? In many ways the Dollhouse reminds me of early Angel, supposed to be about the 'client of the week' but the viewers wanted more and more arc and interaction with the central characters instead.
Best line; Echo; (putting the moves on him) "...just the two of us?" Ballard; (turning her down)"Is it really just the 2 of us?" plus Rossum honcho; "Did you ever think of imprinting a Doll to kill me?" Adele; "I like to think I'd have the honesty to do it myself"
Packing heat; Echo;8 Boyd; 8 Dominic; 9 Sierra; 4 Victor; 3 Ballard; 10 November; 1
Echo kissage; 4
Kinky dinky; The latest client seems to be a sadist who quotes the Marquis de Sade. Echo comments that sometimes a girl 'likes to be chased'. She implies that she's done a 'sister act' before but never with 'cooking food'? Ballard and Echo's training seems akin to foreplay, 'getting all sweaty' as Xander would say.
Capt subtext; Adele tells Topher she cares for him, reinforcing their mother/wayward son vibe. She also calls Echo 'love', English slang or something more? Echo comments that she's been 'gay' 7 times and that occasionally there is some 'noise from the chorus girls'.
Notches on the Dollhouse bedpost; Echo; 5 definite, 2 possible November; 1 Ballard; 1 Victor; 1 Adele; 1 Sierra 1 Topher; 1 possible
How'd they get away with that? Can we please have an ep with no needles? Also the prisoner's bruising is nasty, again because it's more real than any sci-fi injury
This weeks fantasy; The Dollhouse is now renting out Dolls as submissives to a sadist.
What do we think of the client? Hard to know, how far does he go? The stern headmaster or Pinhead from Hellraiser? You could argue that it's better for him to do this with actives as they'll be unhurt and have no memory of it afterwards.
Total number personalitites; Echo refers to now having 36 personalities in her mind Echo; 36 Sierra; 12 Victor; 10 November; 3
Total LA dolls; 9-Echo, Sierra, November, Victor, Mike, Tango, Alpha, Whiskey, Kilo
Addy is a bit British; She call's Echo 'love' (see Capt Subtext)
Topher is a bit geeky; He actually refers to Cylons on a show with numerous BSG stars!
Subverting the Hollywood cliche;
Bondage; Sierra tied up; 1 Ballard; 1 Echo; 2
Knocked out; Echo; 6 November; 1 Sierra; 1 Victor; 1 Topher; 2
Kills; Sierra; 3 kills Echo; 3 November;1
Dolls injured;
Happy hookers;
Know the face? Glenn Morshower, another great character actor who also played Cassie Newton's dad in the Buffy ep 'Help' 15-Whedon alumni-Mark Shepherd-2 (Dollhouse/Firefly), Amy Acker-2 (Dollhouse/Angel), walking action figure-2 (Buffy/Dollhouse), Eliza Dushku-3 (Buffy/Angel/Dollhouse), Jim Piddock-2 (Angel/Dollhouse), Gregg Henry-2 (Dollhouse/Firefly), Alan Tudyk-2 (Dollhouse/Firefly), Felicia Day-2(Dollhouse/Buffy), Alexis Denisoff-3 (Buffy, Angel and Dollhouse), Kristoffer Pohala-2 (Dollhouse/Angel), Stacey Scowley-2 (Buffy/Dollhouse) Clyde Katulas-2 (Buffy/Dollhouse), Maurissa Tanchon-2(Dollhouse/Dr Horrible), Summer Glau-3(Angel/Firefly/Dollhouse) Glenn Morshower-2(Buffy/Dollhouse)
Guantanamo; Brutality from the police towards illegal immigrants, keeping 'the scum off the streets'. Fanfic;
Missing scenes;.
Reminds me of; Adele suffers the 'death of a thousand cuts' also experienced by Lilah at the hands of Lindsey and Gavin in Angel. Echo and Ballard's training routine appears to have been inspired by Clouseau and Kato from the Pink Panther films. ED as a nurse as she was in Tru Calling and her medical pilot that didn't get picked up.
Whedon cliches; Maimed characters. Rich and powerful famillies who cover up the evil deeds of their wayward sons. Top security installations which aren't secure at all. Loving self-sacrificing mothers who risk all for their children. Corporate politics literally played with deadly seriousness.
Breaking the programming; Echo seems to imply that rather than being a composite of all her 36 personalities that the Echo character is actually a seperate entity and can access the other's skill and knowledge at will, like a filing system. Does this mean she also keeps Caroline filed away, afraid to let her loose?
Questions and observations; With the addition of a new house in Dubai there are now 23 Dollhouses around the world. Boyd is very honest with Adele, informing her that they'd always placed the actives at risk, they're now just more blatant about it. We now have Adele at her most sinister ever, seeming to come aboard with Rossums blatantly insidious plan. Topher seems increasingly conflicted and Boyd, Echo and Ballard are now in cahoots. I'd like to see Topher be a bit nicer to Ivy, he seems unecessarily snide to her. Very clever concept, the Dolls imprinted into helping in the Dollhouses research.
Marks out of 10; 7/10 would like more Dollhouse and less jailbreak
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