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Post by Secret Scoobie on Mar 9, 2009 8:41:37 GMT -5
SPOILER FOR ANYONE WHO HASN'T FINISHED WATCHING ANGEL! OR ISN'T UP TO DATE WITH AFTER THE FALL
I would love to read some Fred pre-quels.
I do love Illyria's character but I still really mourn the death of Fred's
(I don't really count the dissociative identity crisis through the (SPIKE and ANGEL) after the fall comics as Fred still being alive... I guess she is still there, but it feels artificial to me and I WATCHED Fred DIE when Illyria emerged so I haven't really gotten past it.)
It would be intriguing to see Fred's character development through the trials of Pylean enslavement... in the Angel series we only caught the end of her time there - where she had already grown a skin and made her way of 'surviving', I want to know how she GOT to that.
*First actual thread post* I'm excited!
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Post by Paul on Mar 9, 2009 8:57:47 GMT -5
This might make an interesting one-shot, but I can't see it supporting a full mini-series. Hell, they could do a whole Angel: Origins anthology mini-series with Wesley in the Watcher's Academy, Gunn fighting vamps in the street, Fred in Pylea, Lorne coming to L.A., and Connor in Quor Toth.
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Post by Wyndam on Mar 9, 2009 11:20:52 GMT -5
This might make an interesting one-shot, but I can't see it supporting a full mini-series. Hell, they could do a whole Angel: Origins anthology mini-series with Wesley in the Watcher's Academy, Gunn fighting vamps in the street, Fred in Pylea, Lorne coming to L.A., and Connor in Quor Toth. That would be great. |
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Post by Hallow Thorn on Mar 11, 2009 0:02:32 GMT -5
This might make an interesting one-shot, but I can't see it supporting a full mini-series. Hell, they could do a whole Angel: Origins anthology mini-series with Wesley in the Watcher's Academy, Gunn fighting vamps in the street, Fred in Pylea, Lorne coming to L.A., and Connor in Quor Toth. I would love that, also Higher Being Cordy, Groo with the Fred mini-series and Illyria as an Old one in the fight with TPTB (with a Cordy/Illyria (Fred body) cameo some how lol)... |
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Post by Secret Scoobie on Mar 11, 2009 6:32:36 GMT -5
Illyria old one... that would be insane! We don't even know what Illyria's 'form' is or what the dimension was like.
It's making my head hurt to imagine it! Hehe.
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Post by Joe on Mar 11, 2009 7:59:21 GMT -5
This might make an interesting one-shot, but I can't see it supporting a full mini-series. Hell, they could do a whole Angel: Origins anthology mini-series with Wesley in the Watcher's Academy, Gunn fighting vamps in the street, Fred in Pylea, Lorne coming to L.A., and Connor in Quor Toth. I would love that, also Higher Being Cordy, and Illyria as an Old one in the fight with TPTB (with a Cordy/Illyria (Fred body) cameo some how lol)... I know you love her Thorn, but Cordy can't do much at all as a higher being. We don't even know if she is an actual higher being still or if she's just "up there" in the mist. It would be 22 pages of her blowing leaves in Angel's face. Again, TPTB don't fight. They're more of a watching type. They can switch certain events to their liking (?) but they don't fight or take actual action. They can just influence others too. |
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Post by Paul on Mar 11, 2009 9:07:09 GMT -5
I would love that, also Higher Being Cordy, and Illyria as an Old one in the fight with TPTB (with a Cordy/Illyria (Fred body) cameo some how lol)... I know you love her Thorn, but Cordy can't do much at all as a higher being. We don't even know if she is an actual higher being still or if she's just "up there" in the mist. It would be 22 pages of her blowing leaves in Angel's face. Again, TPTB don't fight. They're more of a watching type. They can switch certain events to their liking (?) but they don't fight or take actual action. They can just influence others too. Yeah, plus Cordelia as a higher being wouldn't really make sense as part of an Origins series. We already know Cordelia's origin, we watched her grow up before our eyes. Illyria as an Old One would be cool though. We could see how/why she was killed by her demon rivals, with a cameo from the Wolf, the Ram and the Hart. |
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Post by Secret Scoobie on Mar 12, 2009 7:29:13 GMT -5
^ Wolf, Ram, Hart... now THAT I'd like to see.
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Post by Hallow Thorn on Mar 13, 2009 3:05:00 GMT -5
(What ever lol ... each to their own, what she is now to some people is not what she is to others, like she said "Higher Being" unquestionably different circumstances /situation /position like seen in season 4 as a higher being...)
So I think Cordelia as a higher being and the Origin of her new 'life' would work as part of an "Origin series" just like how Angel/Spike/Dru/Darla would work as part of an "Origin series" showing how they became Vampires...
anyway lol...
... Cameo from Wolf, Ram, Hart would rock!.
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Post by trunkstheslayer on Mar 21, 2009 23:33:49 GMT -5
(What ever lol ... each to their own, what she is now to some people is not what she is to others, like she said "Higher Being" unquestionably different circumstances /situation /position like seen in season 4 as a higher being...) So I think Cordelia as a higher being and the Origin of her new 'life' would work as part of an "Origin series" just like how Angel/Spike/Dru/Darla would work as part of an "Origin series" showing how they became Vampires... anyway lol... ... Cameo from Wolf, Ram, Hart would rock!. Um...isn't Darla the only one in that set who's siring we haven't seen? And like was said, even if Cordy is a higher being that doesn't mean all powerful. the PTB take a passive role. Drop a quarter on the street once in awhile and that's about it in terms of active involvement. Hence why Cordelia was complaining of boredom. And I've gotta ask Thorn: Would you prefer Cordy come back and have a weakened exit, or have her go out the way she did in either season 5 or ATF? Legitimately asking here. I know you love the character and want her to pop up again, but overkill's something to consider. As much as I loved her in both of the above mentions, it makes them less meaningful if she just pops in again on a relatively consistent basis. ATF handled it in, pretty much, the only way I think could have worked. Especially because it was left somewhat vague in that it truly could have been any of the three things she mentioned. |
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Post by Hallow Thorn on Mar 22, 2009 2:05:36 GMT -5
(What ever lol ... each to their own, what she is now to some people is not what she is to others, like she said "Higher Being" unquestionably different circumstances /situation /position like seen in season 4 as a higher being...) So I think Cordelia as a higher being and the Origin of her new 'life' would work as part of an "Origin series" just like how Angel/Spike/Dru/Darla would work as part of an "Origin series" showing how they became Vampires... anyway lol... ... Cameo from Wolf, Ram, Hart would rock!. Um...isn't Darla the only one in that set who's siring we haven't seen? No... we have seen The Marster sire her in an Angel ep... And like was said, even if Cordy is a higher being that doesn't mean all powerful. the PTB take a passive role. Drop a quarter on the street once in awhile and that's about it in terms of active involvement. Hence why Cordelia was complaining of boredom. And I've gotta ask Thorn: Would you prefer Cordy come back and have a weakened exit, or have her go out the way she did in either season 5 or ATF? Legitimately asking here. I know you love the character and want her to pop up again, but overkill's something to consider. As much as I loved her in both of the above mentions, it makes them less meaningful if she just pops in again on a relatively consistent basis. ATF handled it in, pretty much, the only way I think could have worked. Especially because it was left somewhat vague in that it truly could have been any of the three things she mentioned. Well, I would logically want her to be seen again with a strong and powerful appearance like in season 5 or ATF... why would I want it to be less meaningful and why would it be atomically? :moody: Anyway..way off topic. |
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Post by patxshand on Mar 24, 2009 22:37:23 GMT -5
Know what would be awesome? A miniseries about Fred. I'd buy, multiple copies even!
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Post by Hallow Thorn on Mar 25, 2009 4:36:36 GMT -5
I would like it set around 2020 or so with Illyria thinking that she is Fred again lol...
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