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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Apr 22, 2008 6:21:36 GMT -5
Nooo killing Amy, please. Such a great character. She needs help, not death. I kinda think we lost her(i'm assuming that you side with the good guys). i'm not saying that she's evil all the way through, but she's definitly not a nice person. intriguing characters yes, but i hope she ends up in hell.
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Post by Whedon Fan on Apr 22, 2008 7:50:46 GMT -5
Ugh Amy needs to go. What exacly was here reason for wanting to attack Willow. She tells her to saty away and her response to that is...take her down. I know she has been working with Warren but still, Amy used to be her friend and then she went from Friend, Witch, Rat, Weridish evil witch and then a huge jump to bad guy trying to kill her.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Apr 22, 2008 8:15:50 GMT -5
It's just jelaousy, as we found out in The Killer In Me. She's just like her mother.
I mean, it didn't come as a complete surprise to me that she's capable of the things she did in season 7 and 8. In season 2 we could see how she mind-manipulated her teacher(mindrape as i like to call it) and she was willing to do a love spell on Cordelia. That's evil in itself, and if she had been a demon, buffy would have killed her(a example of how demons are discriminated by the scoobies)
And finally in season 6 with Willow she keeps messing with magic, as seen in the Bronze. talk about using people(okay, those two guys had it coming but not the rest).
That girl is selfish. i just hope that Buffy won't go soft on her because she's human, and not kill her when she is weak. then giles have to finish her of, like he did with ben.
Wow, that was long. And perhaps in the wrong thread...
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Post by iloveromy on Apr 22, 2008 8:34:16 GMT -5
I too wouldn't mind seeing Amy gone once and for all. I don't want her and Warren to turn into "I'll get you next time!" villians.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Apr 22, 2008 8:40:33 GMT -5
I too wouldn't mind seeing Amy gone once and for all. I don't want her and Warren to turn into "I'll get you next time!" villians. lol, nope, Warren got that covered in season 6.
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Post by Slayer489 on Apr 22, 2008 12:55:51 GMT -5
Harth as Twilight. Would be interesting... Doubt it though.
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Post by barryshaft on Apr 22, 2008 13:16:45 GMT -5
Yeah, the Buffyverse has a lot of villains that stick around for a while...but Amy And Warren just aren't interesting enough to warrant repeat visits. I think it would have been too soon to kill them off last time we saw them, but I hope it's in the cards for the next time. I know they like Willow having her own nemesis but even the new Vamp Witch (or if she's not a Vamp it wasn't clear) is cooler then Amy.
Harth wouldn't be Twilight, Twilight is someone integral to Buffy's life... I don't see the character being a one-off character (sorry to all those who suggested Tara's dad...) from another series.
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Post by Rebecca on Apr 23, 2008 21:40:47 GMT -5
You see, there I disagree. I have come to terms that Harth is a long shot at being Twilight, however I think Buffy may have significance for him. For those of you who don't know, Harth was endowed with the slayer dreams/memories. Fray is his sister, who got the strength of the slayer. I can see Harth (being inundated with dreams of slayers) becoming obsessed with Buffy as have most men she has encountered. He may not be integral to Buffy's life, but he knows her. Intimately. Imagine, he has all of her memories. He would know more about her than any character we know in the Buffyverse. Just sayin'.
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Post by El Diablo Robotico on Apr 23, 2008 22:06:27 GMT -5
You see, there I disagree. I have come to terms that Harth is a long shot at being Twilight, however I think Buffy may have significance for him. For those of you who don't know, Harth was endowed with the slayer dreams/memories. Fray is his sister, who got the strength of the slayer. I can see Harth (being inundated with dreams of slayers) becoming obsessed with Buffy as have most men she has encountered. He may not be integral to Buffy's life, but he knows her. Intimately. Imagine, he has all of her memories. He would know more about her than any character we know in the Buffyverse. Just sayin'. I don't think he knows her quite that well--having all of her memories. If that were the case, shouldn't Buffy have the memories of all the slayers that came before her? But she doesn't, hence the research--first the books, then with Spike--she does into the deaths of past slayers in "Fool for Love". I always took it to mean that the Slayer memories were more of a subconscious thing that mostly surfaced in dreams.
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Post by Rebecca on Apr 23, 2008 23:53:58 GMT -5
You see, there I disagree. I have come to terms that Harth is a long shot at being Twilight, however I think Buffy may have significance for him. For those of you who don't know, Harth was endowed with the slayer dreams/memories. Fray is his sister, who got the strength of the slayer. I can see Harth (being inundated with dreams of slayers) becoming obsessed with Buffy as have most men she has encountered. He may not be integral to Buffy's life, but he knows her. Intimately. Imagine, he has all of her memories. He would know more about her than any character we know in the Buffyverse. Just sayin'. I don't think he knows her quite that well--having all of her memories. If that were the case, shouldn't Buffy have the memories of all the slayers that came before her? But she doesn't, hence the research--first the books, then with Spike--she does into the deaths of past slayers in "Fool for Love". I always took it to mean that the Slayer memories were more of a subconscious thing that mostly surfaced in dreams. Yes, I have noticed the inconsistency of Harth's slayer-dreams and those we've seen Buffy have. She tends to have prophetic dreams, nothing specifically about past slayers [with exception to the first slayer in "Restless" when Buffy said "I know you"]. To contrast, I'll quote Harth from Fray: Issue 5: "You don't dream much, do you Mel?
I dreamed. Always. Before my earliest memories of the world, there were the dreams. There was the girl.
She was different every time, but the same. A peasant, a priestess... hundreds of girls, from the times we've forgotten, worlds we couldn't picture.
She was me. She wasn't me. I loved her. I killed her."I take this to mean that his dreams are especially detailed. And often. Buffy is supposedly the last slayer before Fray.... If this is true, would he not have a clearer memory of Buffy? In addition, he said he killed the slayers in his dreams. He went after his slayer sister. I think he has motive to kill Buffy. At the very least, they should have an interesting meeting in Issue 17.
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Post by dane5by5 on Apr 24, 2008 4:03:11 GMT -5
You have some interesting ideas, although I don't think Harth is Twilight, I agree that their meeting (Harth & Buffy) should be very interesting. He is just too small in stature. When he was in the same shots as Melaka, he was even smaller than her, so that's what makes me think he's not Twilight.
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Post by Wyndam on Apr 24, 2008 10:35:25 GMT -5
Anyone else think that Buffy should be able to just kick the snot out of Harth? I understand how it was hard for Fray because he was her brother, but to Buffy he's just another scrawny vampire.
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Post by dane5by5 on Apr 24, 2008 11:12:28 GMT -5
Buffy also has years of experience and training on Fray. So if they throwdown, Buffy should win. Although I think Fray needs to be the one to take Harth out. I think it would make for a better story.
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Post by Rebecca on Apr 24, 2008 11:27:25 GMT -5
Completely, Fray should take Harth out, but he's such a talker! I cannot wait for them to meet face to face Oh, and btw... I wasn't bringing up the "Harth is Twilight" thing again, that's in another thread. I just think most people aren't very familiar with him, nor his potential for great "Big Bad"-ness.
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Post by Emmie on Apr 24, 2008 12:19:55 GMT -5
So we've got 4 issues of Buffy in the future with Fray. It makes me wonder if the story might be limited because of the possibility of the Fray comics continuing. Pure speculation, of course.
But if the Fray comics were to start up again, I think that is where Fray should have her showdown with Harth. Not in a 4 issue arc of Buffy's story.
But if this is it for Fray, I want an epic showdown between Buffy and Fray versus Harth and Drusilla (I think its her). I really want to see Fray dragging Buffy on a heist and they talk about the whole stealing biz and its implications. And them jumping off buildings and leapfrogging down on flying cars.
Which is really the better scenario? Fray kills Harth, while Buffy kills Drusilla. Buffy kills Harth, while Fray kills Drusilla - no messy personal complications from those match-ups. Or neither vamp is killed. Can Drusilla really be allowed to live forever? I know we love her and she's an awesome character, but that's alot of people she's killing.
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Post by jellymoff on Apr 24, 2008 13:10:39 GMT -5
Im dreading this arc. I havent read Fray and I don't have money to buy it. UGH. I don't know where you live, but I first read Fray while at the public libray in Los Angeles. That's how I got in to Buffy/Joss comics in the first place. You might want to check your local library.
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Post by hitnrun017 on Apr 24, 2008 13:21:50 GMT -5
Im dreading this arc. I havent read Fray and I don't have money to buy it. UGH. Even if you don't read Fray before the arc starts, I'm sure Joss will make it fairly easy to understand. Kind of like watching Serenity without watching Firefly first. I do recommend reading Fray first, though, just because of it's amazingness.
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Post by jellymoff on Apr 24, 2008 13:24:58 GMT -5
Yes August. I'm not sure how much I like all this merchandising. I mean, when the comics first came out, people criticized Joss for cashing in on his franchise, that they were a gimick. I personally think they are wrong. But this? The "Conversations With Dead People" Ouija board and the Buffy Tarot deck, it seems they are finding things pretty disconnected with the story of Buffy just to make a buck. Just my opinion. Business is business-and merchandising keeps a franchise alive. It helps define what becomes a "franchise". If these items sell well and they do "make a buck", we are more likely to see more Buffy Comics and possibly other media in the future. As a fan, I want these items to sell-it means that the Buffy name still means something to people and it will continue on.
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Post by Smashed on Apr 24, 2008 13:41:56 GMT -5
Yes, that and the fact that they are fairly cheap.
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Post by Rebecca on Apr 24, 2008 16:34:27 GMT -5
Yes August. I'm not sure how much I like all this merchandising. I mean, when the comics first came out, people criticized Joss for cashing in on his franchise, that they were a gimick. I personally think they are wrong. But this? The "Conversations With Dead People" Ouija board and the Buffy Tarot deck, it seems they are finding things pretty disconnected with the story of Buffy just to make a buck. Just my opinion. Business is business-and merchandising keeps a franchise alive. It helps define what becomes a "franchise". If these items sell well and they do "make a buck", we are more likely to see more Buffy Comics and possibly other media in the future. As a fan, I want these items to sell-it means that the Buffy name still means something to people and it will continue on. Note: it was my opinion that these merchandises cheapen the stories. It's a paradox, that by buying these items it marks that the "Buffy name still means something to people" but it also changes what the Buffy name stands for. By selling merch that arguably has nothing to do with the story (in contrast to posters/statues etc.) the Buffy name is cheapened for me.
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