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Post by Emmie on Jul 17, 2008 22:33:45 GMT -5
I'll go in with Diablo and bet a karma point that it's Drusilla also. Anyone wanna get in on this action? Anyone who believes it's Dark Willow in issue 17 and on the variant cover?
Agree with everything you said Diablo. I don't think Joss is trying to trick or mislead us. I've thought it was Drusilla since April and nothing else has sold me otherwise.
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Post by Smashed on Jul 17, 2008 22:40:40 GMT -5
Once again, agreeing with El Diablo.
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Post by xmadxscientistx on Jul 17, 2008 22:46:28 GMT -5
No, of course I'm not going to bet on it. I don't know about these other guys, but I'm not convinced either way until I see it. If you want to say I told you so, do so. I'm just not shelfing any ideas yet. There is absolutely no point in chiding people for having other guesses.
(Has already agreed to play Dru for Illyria's Pet's animation, so it's not like I don't generally agree with you)
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Post by El Diablo Robotico on Jul 17, 2008 23:05:05 GMT -5
No, of course I'm not going to bet on it. Well, I didn't mean that you'd get docked a point (cursed) for being wrong, just that you'd be given a point (blessed) for being right--and vice versa. So what've you got to lose? And if my previous post came out sounding at all harsh, it wasn't meant that way. Guess I've still got "FDW" hangover from last week. And since my main problem there was the absolute certainty some people had in their own ideas, while conclusively ruling out the alternatives, I'm not about to make the same mistake here. Yes, it could still be Dark Willow. The evidence seems to all point to it not being her, but I'm not gonna totally say that that's definitely the case, no doubt about it whatsoever. I am willing to bet that it's not, tho.
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Post by Smashed on Jul 17, 2008 23:38:52 GMT -5
If it turns out not to be Drusilla, everyone here can dock a point from me.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Jul 18, 2008 5:56:44 GMT -5
You know what, it's probably Dru. Maybe Joss is tired and busy and forgets how fans love to speculate.
Joss: Hehe, I bet they haven't thought about Drusilla for years, I'll drop some obvious clues to that it's Drusilla, but throw them of with issue 19 cover of Willow and make sure that George drawns the chick on issue 17 to look like Robin, and then use Drusilla. They will never see it coming. Mohahaha.
I hope not tough.
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Post by postitnote on Jul 18, 2008 9:16:42 GMT -5
LOL. You all make me smile...but I'm just curious who it really is...I have no definite answers until I see it.
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Post by alycat7 on Jul 18, 2008 11:07:40 GMT -5
I say that its Dark Willow.
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Post by ded1 on Jul 18, 2008 17:46:55 GMT -5
I'm 90% Dru,10%Willow
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Post by Whedon Fan on Jul 19, 2008 7:42:34 GMT -5
No one can know in any sort of percentage, we have no fatcs just rough guesss and descriptions, I'm going to laugh if its not Dru or Dark Willow.
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Post by ded1 on Jul 19, 2008 13:05:09 GMT -5
No one can know in any sort of percentage, we have no fatcs just rough guesss and descriptions, I'm going to laugh if its not Dru or Dark Willow. I am a big fan of mysteries.The percentage thing is simply my way of keeping track of possible suspects and how likely I think each suspect is the culprit given what clues are presented. I am well aware that there are no facts(hence the mystery),but there are clues.With the clues given,my assumption is that it is Dru(with a slim possibility of Willow). Could I be wrong? Could it be someone else? Of course it could be.We will find out the truth in good time.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Jul 22, 2008 7:03:15 GMT -5
Anyone noticed that we're starting to see "dark Willow" as a different person? It's not that we're having the "Is Angelus a part of Angel or a different person all together"-discussion about Willow, but I see that we're starting to forget that "dark Willow" is simply "upset Willow". It all depends on how deep she goes into the magic.
In season 6 we see Willow at her worst, consumed by grief and way to much magic, but other than that, I don't think we will see "her" again. The only other time I can recall Willow losing her temper that way was in Selfless, when that spider-that-eat-hearts-thing attacked her. Other than that, she has dark eyes and veins/black hair when she has to use a lot of black magic, but while she's still in control.
It's not like Dark Willow is the evil twin or alter ego, it's just Willow, more or less.
It might just be me that is starting to refer to dark Willow as a seperate entity, but I doubt it.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Jul 22, 2008 7:57:59 GMT -5
Why is Willow attacking Buffy then? Was that a response to my post? Because in that case I'm not sure why you ask that or what you mean. Can you specify? Anyway, on the top of my head, I can come up with a nr of reasons why Willow would attack Buffy(which we won't know that she does until we actually read the issue): *Buffy's possessed by a demon/dark magic and needs to be defeated. *Willow's possessed by a demon/dark magic and needs to be defeated. *Willow's drunk. *Willow is in fact the woman on the cover of issue 17, and living for two centuries has changed her and she's now evil.
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Post by El Diablo Robotico on Jul 22, 2008 14:09:13 GMT -5
Why is Willow attacking Buffy then? We don't even know that she is attacking Buffy. We can see Buffy reflected in Willow's eye, but all we can see of her is her face, and that she's grimacing. There's nothing that directly points to them fighting. That could very well be an expression of pain on her face as she comes back from the future to the present, thru a portal that Willow has opened, like in "Get It Done" (which is what I believe this cover is showing)...
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Post by ded1 on Jul 22, 2008 17:31:11 GMT -5
Why is Willow attacking Buffy then? Was that a response to my post? Because in that case I'm not sure why you ask that or what you mean. Can you specify? Anyway, on the top of my head, I can come up with a nr of reasons why Willow would attack Buffy(which we won't know that she does until we actually read the issue): *Buffy's possessed by a demon/dark magic and needs to be defeated. *Willow's possessed by a demon/dark magic and needs to be defeated. *Willow's drunk. *Willow is in fact the woman on the cover of issue 17, and living for two centuries has changed her and she's now evil. One you forgot: Willow discovers Buffy's secret meeting was something so morally questionable that Willow gets so furious that she goes all veiny when she sees Buffy.Of course,this is assuming that she is attacking Buffy. Posted by El Diablo Robotico on 07/22/08 at 3:09pm While it is possible that the cover is showing us Willow opening a portal,I'm not convinced that it is the case.It seems to me that Buffy and Willow are heading for a major fallout.I believe that this fallout is what the cover is depicting.
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Post by El Diablo Robotico on Jul 22, 2008 21:59:59 GMT -5
Posted by El Diablo Robotico on 07/22/08 at 3:09pm While it is possible that the cover is showing us Willow opening a portal,I'm not convinced that it is the case.It seems to me that Buffy and Willow are heading for a major fallout.I believe that this fallout is what the cover is depicting. True. The Buffy-arriving-thru-a-portal idea is strictly a theory, but there does seem to be a solid basis for it, with the evidence of the time travel in #16 being so similar to that from "Get It Done". The main point I was trying to make, tho, was that because we can only see their faces and not their bodies, we have no way for sure of judging exactly what's going on. There's nothing that directly indicates that they're fighting...
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Post by ded1 on Jul 23, 2008 18:13:25 GMT -5
Posted by El Diablo Robotico on 07/22/08 at 3:09pm While it is possible that the cover is showing us Willow opening a portal,I'm not convinced that it is the case.It seems to me that Buffy and Willow are heading for a major fallout.I believe that this fallout is what the cover is depicting. True. The Buffy-arriving-thru-a-portal idea is strictly a theory, but there does seem to be a solid basis for it, with the evidence of the time travel in #16 being so similar to that from "Get It Done". The main point I was trying to make, tho, was that because we can only see their faces and not their bodies, we have no way for sure of judging exactly what's going on. There's nothing that directly indicates that they're fighting... Agreed
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Post by edge450 on Aug 1, 2008 10:53:22 GMT -5
Well, in issue #3 we see Willow with veins but she's not turned into Dark Willow. I take it when you refer to Dark Willow you mean Season 6 Dark Willow and not just Willow using dark magicks? I really hope Willow doesn't go evil again. I love my good witch Willow.
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Post by deathisyourgift on Aug 1, 2008 12:50:27 GMT -5
Maybe it's someone from Fray's past? Maybe it's her sister? Maybe it's Marti Noxon? Who knows? I'm excited to find out who it is, and I think the only way I'd be disappointed would be if it was Fray..
Maybe it's Fray? Nah..she wouldn't go for the dress..
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Post by BenTaylor3907 on Aug 1, 2008 13:03:04 GMT -5
Well, its obvious that the mystery character is Drusilla since a vampire said she talks in riddles or whatever. I think Saga Vasuki has something to do with Willow going all dark. Maybe Saga Vasuki possesses Willow.
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