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Post by Wyndam on Dec 6, 2008 13:01:06 GMT -5
Here's the information Pat was talking about at Ausiello's site:
I'm actually quite surprised. I didn't think the creative team had it in them to kill off such a fan-favorite. This might actually be a good thing in the long run if the team wants to try and convince us that "No one is ever safe."
I was certainly skeptical at first because there have been a TON of fake deaths this season (Ando, Matt, Daphne, Peter, Claire, Sylar, etc.). The only "major" deaths so far this season have been Adam Monroe, Bob Bishop, Maury Parkman, and now Elle Bishop.
I thought for sure this was another fake out and Elle would become a similar character to Faith and show up during sweeps (especially since we were teased in the future by a possible Sylar/Elle child). While I am disappointed she was killed, this is an interesting move by the writers that could be a first step in fixing some of the show's problems.
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Post by Hallow Thorn on Dec 6, 2008 18:13:22 GMT -5
Elle was one of the best!!! the show sucks now !!!!!!!!!
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Post by patxshand on Dec 6, 2008 20:23:09 GMT -5
Wyn, I'm sure they would have kept Elle if they could. Kristen Bell is leading lady status. They could only contract her for so long.
Thorn of Gachnar... please. You haven't even seen the show without Elle. She died on Monday. How do you know if it sucks if.... you haven't seen the episode after she dies?
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Post by Hallow Thorn on Dec 6, 2008 23:54:05 GMT -5
Wyn, I'm sure they would have kept Elle if they could. Kristen Bell is leading lady status. They could only contract her for so long. Thorn of Gachnar... please. You haven't even seen the show without Elle. She died on Monday. How do you know if it sucks if.... you haven't seen the episode after she dies? The show started going down hill with Season 2... and I love watching Kristen Bell as Elle, so with her dead, the show is going to suck! (for me anyway lol, I know now I will not be caring about this show as much as I once did..which was very highly
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Post by cyclo on Dec 7, 2008 2:03:08 GMT -5
I don't think her not being there is going to affect the overall quality of the show in any way, and she was only in 11 episodes total throughout season 2 and 3, so it's not like we haven't gone without her before. Obviously if you enjoyed her character or just the actress it will lessen your enjoyment, but saying that all the sudden the show will suck because of it is a bit harsh..if looking at Kristen Bell was the only enjoyable part for you, I'd say the show already sucked in your eyes
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Post by Hallow Thorn on Dec 7, 2008 3:22:36 GMT -5
I don't think her not being there is going to affect the overall quality of the show in any way, and she was only in 11 episodes total throughout season 2 and 3, so it's not like we haven't gone without her before. Obviously if you enjoyed her character or just the actress it will lessen your enjoyment, but saying that all the sudden the show will suck because of it is a bit harsh..if looking at Kristen Bell was the only enjoyable part for you, I'd say the show already sucked in your eyes Yes, thats right, it will lessen my enjoyment of the show... (+ the writing of this season...) lol
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Post by kimtaro on Dec 7, 2008 10:38:21 GMT -5
Ok, well, I'm not a huge fan of Elle, so I am super glad that she's dead (and hope she stays that way). It was quite surprising that they would have Sylar kill her, though. Not that I really liked them as a couple. BLEH. Maybe CLAIRE is the mother of baby Noah MWAHAHAHAHAA.
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Post by VampSlayer on Dec 7, 2008 11:17:30 GMT -5
Ok, well, I'm not a huge fan of Elle, so I am super glad that she's dead (and hope she stays that way). It was quite surprising that they would have Sylar kill her, though. Not that I really liked them as a couple. BLEH. Maybe CLAIRE is the mother of baby Noah MWAHAHAHAHAA. EWWWWW!!!!!!!! Claire and Sylar! EWWWWW!!!!!!! xD
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Post by taraf0rever on Dec 7, 2008 12:37:49 GMT -5
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Post by watcher on Dec 7, 2008 17:54:15 GMT -5
I wish they would make up their mind about Sylar...is he going to be good...bad? I liked his path of redemption, but I guess that's gone down the toilet now.
The show is starting to slip...
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Post by CowboyGuy on Dec 8, 2008 5:54:33 GMT -5
I wish they would make up their mind about Sylar...is he going to be good...bad? I liked his path of redemption, but I guess that's gone down the toilet now. The show is starting to slip... Here here. I'm getting tired of the back and forthness on him. Seems like the writers are just playing a big game of character ping pong to me. First he was a mom-killer, then he didn't kill his real mom cause he was adopted. Then he really was a Petrelli, who was given away after Angela attempted to drown him. And then he sided with his 'dad'. And now he might not even be a Petrelli after all! And all that is just side story on top of his power developments, killings, etc! Too much!
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Post by Wyndam on Dec 8, 2008 18:01:10 GMT -5
I think by killing Elle, just for the sake of killing her and without any other reason (he already has her ability), that Sylar has finally established himself as just a flat out evil guy. Not much more to it really. I doubt we'll see much more flip flopping now.
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Post by Whedon Fan on Dec 8, 2008 19:20:27 GMT -5
I would rather Sylar was killed off than Elle and I'm not even that into the Elle charatcer. It's just Sylar is boring now, I find his scenes to be episode fillers now. Which is pretty bad considering in season 1 he was the main reason I watched Heroes. Elle has more to give where as Sylar will forever be on his "oh the hunger...oh the hunger I must kill to take abitlies" thing. Pfft. I mean they tried to expand his charatcer and give him the Angela as his mum thing, which means he is a Petrelli but the F'd that one up so now here is going back to to "oh the hunger...oh the hunger I must kill to take abitlies" again Kill him off in a nice bloody viloent episode, with Peter at the front line of the ass kicking along with Bennet and if Elle's not really dead her too but if she is then get Hiro to man up and stop acting like a little kid and please, please, PLEASE kill of Ando. Words cannot express how much...wait just thought of one. Cringe. Yes his scenes are cringe worthy now. I think this will make for an interesting character development for Hiro and a nice step to making him a bit darker/mature kill off Ando Wow that turned out to be a rant instead of a "Elle is a better charatcer than Sylar" post. Oh well..
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Post by VampSlayer on Dec 8, 2008 22:33:39 GMT -5
I would rather Sylar was killed off than Elle and I'm not even that into the Elle charatcer. It's just Sylar is boring now, I find his scenes to be episode fillers now. Which is pretty bad considering in season 1 he was the main reason I watched Heroes. Elle has more to give where as Sylar will forever be on his "oh the hunger...oh the hunger I must kill to take abitlies" thing. Pfft. I mean they tried to expand his charatcer and give him the Angela as his mum thing, which means he is a Petrelli but the F'd that one up so now here is going back to to "oh the hunger...oh the hunger I must kill to take abitlies" again Kill him off in a nice bloody viloent episode, with Peter at the front line of the ass kicking along with Bennet and if Elle's not really dead her too but if she is then get Hiro to man up and stop acting like a little kid and please, please, PLEASE kill of Ando. Words cannot express how much...wait just thought of one. Cringe. Yes his scenes are cringe worthy now. I think this will make for an interesting character development for Hiro and a nice step to making him a bit darker/mature kill off Ando Wow that turned out to be a rant instead of a "Elle is a better charatcer than Sylar" post. Oh well.. I kinda agree. Sylar is cool, but now his story is too confusing and stupid. -_- Too bad Elle is probably gone for good, because Sylar burned her body. Maybe someone will time travel, and save her?
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Post by Hallow Thorn on Dec 9, 2008 0:31:30 GMT -5
Maybe someone will time travel, and save her? I would love that... even if she is in just one more ep alive (and that we know she is alive and in hiding) and even if we don't see her for years and then like in season 5/6 we see her again with Sylar's son ... that would be cool...
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Post by VampSlayer on Dec 9, 2008 9:37:08 GMT -5
Maybe someone will time travel, and save her? I would love that... even if she is in just one more ep alive (and that we know she is alive and in hiding) and even if we don't see her for years and then like in season 5/6 we see her again with Sylar's son ... that would be cool... I can TOTALLY see that happening! xD I can't get over how sad it was when little Noah got killed ; HE NEEDS TO LIIIIIIIVVE!!!! xD
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Post by Alexiness on Dec 9, 2008 20:25:01 GMT -5
I'm crossing my fingers that Elle doesn't die. I only just started to love her character. And since so many others like her too, I really doubt they'd kill her off now.
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Post by jellymoff on Dec 9, 2008 21:59:53 GMT -5
I'm guessing that Kristen Bell only signed on for a certain number of episodes. She has some movies coming out a a growing career, so she may not be available for a full time gig. I could be wrong, I'm just guessing.
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Post by Hallow Thorn on Dec 9, 2008 22:42:26 GMT -5
I'm guessing that Kristen Bell only signed on for a certain number of episodes. She has some movies coming out a a growing career, so she may not be available for a full time gig. I could be wrong, I'm just guessing. I am sure that is true, but they still didn't need to kill her...
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Post by ladyparasyte on Dec 10, 2008 16:12:01 GMT -5
Elle/Sylar was the only storyline that kept me intrigued. I kept insisting Heroes was a good show but now...seriously. They killed off Niki Saunders all because of stupid backpack and now we have whatever her boring twins name is. I always forget. Usually, I stick with a show but now...wow...I really don't know if I care. 10 year old Hiro is annoying. Mohinder was one of my favs in Seasons 1 and 2 but now I'm done with him.
Rant done...for now. Oh well...at least there's dollhouse in the future.
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