Dawn vs Connor, who do you hate the most?

[Mathieu]

It seems like there are a lot of Dawn and Connor haters around the discussion boards and I wanted to ask a simple question : who do hate the most? I personnally think they brought a lot to the Buffyverse, adding a family touch to both shows.

I really liked Season 5 with Dawn being the key and all but I was disappointed when the character became totally useless over the last two seasons. And I don't know what to think about Dawn's recent transformations in Season 8.

As for Connor I also liked the whole story arc with Angel/Darla/Holtz. I didn't like him that much afterward because he would always go against his father. But I think it's a good thing there are some characters out there we don't like. It makes them more human.

So it turns out that Dawn and Connor's arrival made for my favorite season both in Angel and BTVS. But I was disappointed by what they did with them in the end.

[Wyndam]

I love both of the characters and never hated them. Dawn was *supposed* to be annoying and aggravating in Season 5, so I can understand the hate with her character. Connor too. A lot of people that don't like Connor generally state Season 4 as the reason, and I can understand that as well. I've always thought both characters were interesting (especially Dawn in S6/S7/S8 and Connor in AtF) and were always great additions to the Buffyverse.

[ladyparasyte]

Personally, neither of the characters REALLY annoyed me. There were of course moments where I didn't particularly like the choices that some of them made.
Connor with Cordelia and Dawn with the juvenile kleptomania behavior.
Then again tho there were moments through both series' where I didn't like some of the direction of the other cast members as well.
I did enjoy Dawn in the 7th season and I really liked the few moments we had with Connor in Season 5 of Angel.
I like a lot of hated characters tho.
I liked Riley and really enjoyed them together in Season 4.However, again didn't care for him getting himself sucked on by vamps in Season 5.
Anyway,Dawn and Connor are both cool in my book.

[Mathieu]

I think I didn't enjoy Dawn's character through seasons 6 and 7 but I liked her story so much in season 5 that I always convinced myself that I loved the character. I mean I wouldn't want her to have never existed for nothing. Her invention was Joss's greatest idea. Connor on the other hand was a little far-fetched though, even though it made for some great stories in the beginning.

[Iceeh★]

I actually love Dawn, and the only reason I ever hated Connor was because of the whole Condelia thing. He definitely redeemed himself in AS5 and ATF, though.

[sarahi]

I don't get how anyone can hate Connor. I liked him. It's hard to understand the stuff he did, but to be fair, Dawn didn't grow up in a hell dimension. Her only memories are of a loving mother and sister. Dawn was never made to believe that she wasn't family, and everyone close to her treated her like a normal child, yet she stole things because she didn't think she was getting enough attention. I was glad to see Xander address the whining, because Buffy shouldn't be made out to be the sister who never stops complaining.

[iamthewalrus]

love Dawn, hate Connor

[Whedon Fan]

As much as they both have their bad character moments I could not imagine the verse being the same without either of them. Without Dawn we wouldn't have the excellant season that was of course season five and without Connor season 3 would not be as nearly exciting as it was.

"the father will kill the son"

"death is your gift"

[Saturn 5]

Dawn I loved pretty much from the start. Connor I seriously disliked but like Riley I grew to appreciate him when he wasn't a regular, they're both acceptable in small doses

[theend]

I like them both. I don't get why people didn't. Dawn's awesome, and Connor had a great storyline.

[BuffyFanOne]

Feb 14, 2009 10:59:10 GMT -5 @iamthewalrus said:

love Dawn, hate Connor

Word.
I hate the character, the actor, and all of the plots involving him.
I liked the Angel/Holtz drama and when Angel gave Connor away to protect him but those small plot points were not at all worth Connor ruining so many presious episodes!!
I kinda liked when he traped Angel under water too...
But still HATE him!
I liked dawn from the get. She was suposed to be a brat!

[Hallow Thorn]

I like them both and always liked Connor because he was Angel's and Darla son.

[BuffyFanOne]

i liked that he was angel and darlas son because of his awesomebirth scene. my love for anything conor stops there!

[henzINNIT]

I don't dislike either but I prefer Connor. Dawn didn't have much to do at any point, although she was a great catalyst for Buffy in season 5. I found Connor a really painfully tragic character throughout, just as he should have been (being Angel's of course). He was the emotional centre for me in season 4, my favourite part of it.

[Nina]

I had to adjust to both characters but I ended up liking them both. Connor a little bit more than Dawn because Connor has a really good story and because he is played so well. Can't say that I liked either character in their first season, Dawn because she annoyed me and I disliked her being part of the story. And my problems with Connor are a bit more confusing, on the one side I understood why he did things and I felt bad for this tragic character and on the other side I couldn't enjoy his arc or character. But right now, I really like both characters.

[BuffyFanOne]

I think that Dawn's addition to the story was so pivotal to the success of season five (arguably the strongest season of Buffy) that I can't help but care about her charactor.
For me, Connor was a bit of a shark jump to me. I really felt the emptional connection between Angel and baby Connor but once he was turned into an adult over night, I feel like the connection was lost and it seemed forced and artificial verging on over dramatic.

[snizapman6294]

dawn is too whiney and connor is too... gross... he banged who was basically the only mother-figure he ever had.

[Spiked]

I'm not really sure I can vote in the poll. I'm not really a fan of either of them, but I wouldn't say I HATE them. They were both just really, really whiny. If I HAVE to choose which one I like less, I might go with Connor, if only for the whole "sleeping with the woman who changed his diapers" thing...YUCK!

Still, they both improved a lot in the last seasons of their respective shows, even though Connor was only in a few episodes of Angel season 5.

[Tyler Austin "tiewashere"]

Connor just needs to die.

Although I liked him in Season 5 and AFTER THE FALL.

[worldofshrimps]

Yeah I liked them both. Only time I didn't like Connor was when he slept with Cordy! But Dawn, even though people claim she moaned a lot, I think was a very strong character and the moaning wasn't without precedent! She found out she was not even a real person and in terms of being Buffy's sister she acted like all younger sisters would act! So yeah they were both awesome!