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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Jan 12, 2009 18:55:07 GMT -5
Harmony could have made it outbefore LA went to hell. Who knows how long it took between her good bye with Angel and the end of the alley fight(which could have gone one for a while).
Maybe Harm took the helicopter to a jetplane that took her away. Or maybe she teleported. How hard could it be for her to find a W&H employed witch to teleport her?
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Post by wenxina on Jan 12, 2009 19:05:09 GMT -5
Random Slayer's name was Soledad. Scott confirmed this in the Q&A. Apparently it was meant to be in somewhere, but it never came up. But does her name really matter? No one really challenged the anonymity of the decoy in "The Chain". Her name was Buffy, wasn't it? The decoy's name is never given. She was supposed to impersonate Buffy, but I doubt that was her name too.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Jan 12, 2009 19:12:19 GMT -5
Her name was Buffy, wasn't it? The decoy's name is never given. She was supposed to impersonate Buffy, but I doubt that was her name too. Does someone have the issue in front of them? I remember her thinking about "someone else if using the name, high profile" and something else, so I assumed it was her name too.
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Post by Whedon Fan on Jan 12, 2009 19:17:03 GMT -5
6) I hope this issue has some other purpose other wise all it's done is ruin the continuity for Angel: After The Fall, which shows that hell went to LA right after Harmony left Wolfram and Hart so how did she get out in time? I don't see how Harmony couldn't have gone to hell like everyone else and come out the otherside after Hell-A is inevitably undone. There's nothing in this issue that changes anything really other than Harmony being alive, and as a soulless vampire it's not much of a stretch to believe she could get by fine in hell. Yeah she is definatley in Hell A somewhere. The problem is she has not appeared yet and probaly won't unless she makes an appernace in Angel: Aftermath. There is no way she got out of LA before it went to hell as Hell A happened right after Hamilton was killed, whenthe Wolfram and Hart offices began to shake that was what was happening. Also we see right after Connor leaves Angel hell was already on it's way so unless she had a private jet waiting for her on top of Wolfram and Hart (which I seriously doubt btw) then she must be in Hell somehere and happens to survive this is the only way to conect her story from 'After The Fall' to 'Harmonic Divergance'.
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Post by wenxina on Jan 12, 2009 19:23:11 GMT -5
Does someone have the issue in front of them? I remember her thinking about "someone else if using the name, high profile" and something else, so I assumed it was her name too. What she meant was the other decoy in Rome, the one supposedly dating the Immortal. That's the high profile decoy. But no, her name was never given. She feels even less significant because her adopted identity swallows her own; the name "Buffy" is what's known. That's why she ends the issue with "... You don't even know who I am. But I do."
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Jan 12, 2009 20:16:51 GMT -5
I don't see how Harmony couldn't have gone to hell like everyone else and come out the otherside after Hell-A is inevitably undone. There's nothing in this issue that changes anything really other than Harmony being alive, and as a soulless vampire it's not much of a stretch to believe she could get by fine in hell. Yeah she is definatley in Hell A somewhere. The problem is she has not appeared yet and probaly won't unless she makes an appernace in Angel: Aftermath. There is no way she got out of LA before it went to hell as Hell A happened right after Hamilton was killed, whenthe Wolfram and Hart offices began to shake that was what was happening. Also we see right after Connor leaves Angel hell was already on it's way so unless she had a private jet waiting for her on top of Wolfram and Hart (which I seriously doubt btw) then she must be in Hell somehere and happens to survive this is the only way to conect her story from 'After The Fall' to 'Harmonic Divergance'. We don't know how long it took for Angel to get to that alley. It could have taken an hour, long enough to get to a jet. Or get teleported.
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Post by wenxina on Jan 12, 2009 20:39:20 GMT -5
You know, there could be another explanation. One that also has precedent in the Buffyverse. Time has been said to pass differently in different hell dimensions. Angel was sent to a hell dimension and was tortured for a very long time. Connor and Holtz aged 16 years in the passage of only a few months. It's possible that time just passes differently for the people stuck in Hell-A. And since there's a glamor on LA, at the surface, things could be going as normal.
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Post by Tyler Austin "tiewashere" on Jan 12, 2009 22:14:34 GMT -5
The decoy's name is never given. She was supposed to impersonate Buffy, but I doubt that was her name too. Does someone have the issue in front of them? I remember her thinking about "someone else if using the name, high profile" and something else, so I assumed it was her name too. The main part of the issue was that we never heard her name. That's why at the end, when she is dying, she says "You don't know me. You don't even know my name...but I do." She was meant only to be Buffy's decoy...hence why everyone called her Buffy.
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Post by gonzalo84 on Jan 12, 2009 23:23:43 GMT -5
The other possibilit about Hell-A is that the people (Team Angel, the demons and thousands of humans=) where just teleported to a duplicate, hellish version of LA while the original city and some of its inhabitants (like Harmony and celebrities) remained Unraptured.
So far we haven't seen any celebrity in Hell-A.
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Post by El Diablo Robotico on Jan 13, 2009 2:14:44 GMT -5
Harmony left just before the Angel/Hamilton fight began. The fight lasted at least 5 minutes, and probably more like 10, so that'd be more than enough time for her to get out of the building. Then you have to allow for the time it took Angel to get out of the building, once the fight was over, and then he had to get to the alley north of the Hyperion. He showed up on foot, and I don't think he drove over there during the time he wasn't on screen (I think that for no other reason than just the symbolism involved--the whole ep was about breaking away from W&H, so you don't do that and then drive away in one of the company cars ). Conservative estimate, let's say the alley was half-a-mile away: at a steady jog, in the rain, he could probably cover that in, what, 10 minutes? And then we saw from Gunn's story in "First Night" that the fight went on for at least a few minutes more before the city was sent to Hell. So we've got probably 30-40 minutes or more for Harm to get out of the building, get to her car, and drive out of the radius of the Senior Partners' spell. That's more than do-able, IMO. But come on--does it really matter? We've known for awhile now that we don't know the timeline relationship between S8 and AtF, and that if-and-when it becomes important that we do know, we'll find out. So just accept the fact that Harmony survived/escaped Hell-A somehow. Do we always need to know all the details to be able to enjoy a story? Can't we use our imaginations for some of this stuff, or just take some of it on faith? :unsure:
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Post by Hallow Thorn on Jan 13, 2009 5:33:01 GMT -5
True... for now I don't care, I am just happy to see Harmony again.
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Post by rogue11 on Jan 13, 2009 14:45:25 GMT -5
Finally read this issue and it wasn't that great in my opinion. We barely saw much of Buffy and the gang and did anyone else think this issue seemed kind of short? Harmony is a funny character but begining a new story arc with such hype around it (because of the writers involoved) I dunno this didn't work for me. It was nice seeing Clem but you could have made this more of a unique story, haven't we already seen the fancy parties and all the newly empowered slayers being beaten up on. This wasn't really exciting at all. Hoping next months issue is better, looks more interesting.
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Post by kershmuckit on Jan 13, 2009 18:02:50 GMT -5
Ditto. Was boring. There were a few artistic touches i really liked though, like dawn and the male horse and the dog with the white hat on. =)
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Post by Rebecca on Jan 13, 2009 18:04:28 GMT -5
I still think that was a unicorn
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Post by paige101 on Jan 14, 2009 6:13:38 GMT -5
The decoy's name is never given. She was supposed to impersonate Buffy, but I doubt that was her name too. Does someone have the issue in front of them? I remember her thinking about "someone else if using the name, high profile" and something else, so I assumed it was her name too. what i read into that is you get a high profile from the name, like by "becoming" (couldn't think of a better way to say that) Buffy, you lose the anomymity you would have if you were just a regular slayer. Did any of that make sense? lol
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Post by Hallow Thorn on Jan 14, 2009 22:51:00 GMT -5
I got this issue today... I was going to buy both covers (coz I love Harm) but they only had one so I will look for the other one soon... I love it anyway !
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Post by Tyler Austin "tiewashere" on Jan 14, 2009 23:05:37 GMT -5
I got this issue today... I was going to buy both covers (coz I love Harm) but they only had one so I will look for the other one soon... I love it anyway ! Which one did they have?
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Post by Hallow Thorn on Jan 15, 2009 0:12:07 GMT -5
I got this issue today... I was going to buy both covers (coz I love Harm) but they only had one so I will look for the other one soon... I love it anyway ! Which one did they have? The more 'comic book' looking one and that looks like a magazine cover . I think it was good ... I still havn't read the #3 TPB tho(even tho I have it ) I got the other cover today and the cover callery for A/S:FTF vol.1 I really hope we see Cordy (a lot of her) in Vol. 3
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Post by dane5by5 on Jan 16, 2009 9:11:43 GMT -5
Does anyone know where I can see these advertisements in the other DH comics this month? The Buffy, Faith and apparently Kennedy public notices. Has anyone uploaded them? I want to see the art and since they're promotional, they should be fine to upload.
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Post by wenxina on Jan 16, 2009 11:07:59 GMT -5
The art is from previous issues. The Buffy one is from TLWH (I think), Faith's is from the frame in which she's holding the dagger (in the flashback in NFFY), and Kennedy is from ToYL (I think the one where she says "Hey Red. Didn't miss you.") I bought a copy of Kull #3 last night, but couldn't find the other books to see if it's the same across the board. The text is truncated though (it says "continued on page 20")... so maybe it's different in all the books, or perhaps it's an ongoing thing with the other books, at least for this arc.
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