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Post by Malsad on Jan 26, 2009 12:00:47 GMT -5
(sry if theres all ready a thread but)
this is partly written by Joss,
so is there any reason that this isnt canon?
(NOTE-I havent read this)
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Post by Wyndam on Jan 26, 2009 12:49:20 GMT -5
(sry if theres all ready a thread but) this is partly written by Joss, so is there any reason that this isnt canon? (NOTE-I havent read this) I'm just guessing here, as I haven't read any of Dark Horse's Angel comics, but I think the general consensus is that any of the original Dark Horse comics from either series (besides the story in Origin) are not canonical. Joss probably helped develop the story idea for the mini-series, but probably handed over the actual writing to Brett Matthews. I am just assuming that is what happened though. |
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Post by patxshand on Jan 26, 2009 14:11:40 GMT -5
That's what I had originally assumed too, Wyn. Then Scott Allie quickly stepped in and corrected me. Joss and Brett wrote the story AND scripts together.
I consider the story canonical. In the end, it sort of sets up something that never happened, but still. Joss wrote it. It's Angel. It goes on the canon shelf.
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Post by faithnspike on Jan 27, 2009 8:25:21 GMT -5
It is a strange read. I was not a fan of the mini series and don’t see how it fits in the cannon universe but it seems like it has to be cannon unfortunately it just adds nothing to the Angel storyline
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Feb 5, 2009 15:32:10 GMT -5
As long as it doesn't contradict anything in the Angel verse (the show and after the fall, maybe aftermath too) enjoy the story without worrying about the canon issue.
Of course, I can't remember the story. Maybe a character did something significant (revealed that they are a democrat, racist, dying, etcetc) and in that case, the canon should be discussed, but if nothing major happened it doesn't really matter to me.
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Post by Malsad on Feb 5, 2009 18:50:31 GMT -5
thats the way i am
i even have a cannon meter
Cannon- Shows/ ATF&AM/ S8/ Tales
Mostly Cannon- Spike SP/Asylum
Simi Cannon- Spotlight and other comics that don't change anything
Non Cannon- whats left of the comics/books
+ can some one give a more in depth summary of it
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Post by Hallow Thorn on Feb 5, 2009 19:43:33 GMT -5
what about 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer: The Origin' I would say that it is Mostly canon ... (I have to buy it now)
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Post by Wyndam on Feb 5, 2009 19:56:42 GMT -5
what about 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer: The Origin' I would say that it is Mostly canon ... (I have to buy it now) I believe the overall story of Origin is canon, but what you actually see on the pages isn't (i.e. Vampire dust is green). I believe that's how it works. |
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Post by Hallow Thorn on Feb 5, 2009 20:13:59 GMT -5
what about 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer: The Origin' I would say that it is Mostly canon ... (I have to buy it now) I believe the overall story of Origin is canon, but what you actually see on the pages isn't (i.e. Vampire dust is green). I believe that's how it works. That's good then, I also read that The story is framed not as actual events but how Buffy remembers them because she is telling Willow and Xander the story of how she found out she was a Slayer... But about 'Long Night's Journey' I think I might have some of them, I am not sure, I have lots of Buffy/Angel comics... :buffyslay: |
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Post by wenxina on Feb 5, 2009 21:01:42 GMT -5
I believe the overall story of Origin is canon, but what you actually see on the pages isn't (i.e. Vampire dust is green). I believe that's how it works. Vamp dust is green on S8 too, though. So I think it's just a coloring issue, to differentiate it from say, smoke. Just saying... |
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Post by Wyndam on Feb 5, 2009 21:20:32 GMT -5
I believe the overall story of Origin is canon, but what you actually see on the pages isn't (i.e. Vampire dust is green). I believe that's how it works. Vamp dust is green on S8 too, though. So I think it's just a coloring issue, to differentiate it from say, smoke. Just saying... Ah yeah, I forgot about that (not many vamps getting dusted these days!). Never mind what I said then.  |
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Post by Ethros on Feb 6, 2009 10:26:59 GMT -5
The look of the vampires in The Origin is WAY off too. They look more like werewolves/demon thingies
So what Wyndam said, story yes, on page not so much
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Post by Hallow Thorn on Feb 9, 2009 1:47:16 GMT -5
I just got The Origin today, so much better then the film and some of season 8. It is a must have for all fans... go out and get it, ...NOW  ... |
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Post by Malsad on Apr 21, 2009 10:48:08 GMT -5
I just got Angel:LNJ TPB for $3 and it was awesome, its not entirely canon in the soul department, but cool none the less, the snake/"Silthe" woman/demon was really cool and i hope she go's to the new Angel series at some point,
and was it just me or did Joss use some early drafts of Saga Vasuki and Caleb in this comic?
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