Joss-less Buffy 'Reboot' = BIG BAD!

[Ethros]

Whoever came up with this idea should go back and watch what the Kuzuis came up with the last time they tried to do a Buffy movie


This sounds terrible, and sums up the supreme laziness in Hollywoodland of late

[Midnight Butterfly]

I have always wanted a Buffy movie but not like this. It cant go ahead.
Maybe they could do a film in with a different slayer past or future. That would be a good idea.
They cant do a Buffy movie without Whedon and the original cast.
I believe that one of their reasons is to bring Buffy to the next generation. Buffy is getting new fans all the time buying DVDs without a stupid movie.

[FiveByFiveFVS]

This is a terrible idea. That's really all I can say.

[cheryl]

No SMG, no Joss, no scoobies...no way.

[Paul]

Wow, people are being waaay narrow-minded about this. Do we have to be such fanboys?

I'd be perfectly open to a Buffy movie reboot without Joss. Would I love it as much as the canonical series? Of course not. But that doesn't mean I need to hate it. Look at Halloween (God, I need to find a new analogy); is the Rob Zombie remake as good as John Carpenter's original? No, not even close. Is it an enjoyable film in it's own right that put it's own spin on a classic story? Yes. Some people who didn't grow up with the original even prefer the remake. It's not my cup of tea, but I don't begrudge it's existence. At the end of the day, it's harmless because it doesn't impact the continuity I actually care about.

There's no reason whatsoever a new writer and director couldn't take the initial concept of Buffy (bimbo cheerleader-turned-vampire hunter) and fashion a new version of the story. How many versions of Dracula or Batman are out there? It might be really cool to see someone else's take on Buffy. We need to realise that's it's not being made for us fans, but a larger audience who may never even have watched the show in the first place.

If they were making a movie without Joss that was a follow-up to the TV show, I would be worried and angry. But if they're getting someone else to do their own thing, then I say why the hell not.

[weredog]

What I don't understand is why they would make a reboot so soon. The series is only 10 years old, so how could anybody -- fan or non-fan -- accept a swipe of something that is still relatively fresh television.

If Kuzui does wish to follow through on a BUFFY remake (with a new-Buffy and non-Scooby cast), I hope to god that Joss wouldn't partake in the production. Remember 1992, Whedon?

I'm sticking with DOLLHOUSE to get my Whedon fix, thanks.
I'd much rather watch that series succeed than this speculated film-to-(maybe)-be.

[XanderHarris]

Well, I'd say it could be okay. Joss isn't the only talented writer/director in the world, so I'd have to see the turn-out in order to make a decent decision whether to like it or not.

A lot of Remakes were fun, because another director made them.

[ambersknight]

I agree with Paul730, its all about the details people.

And if it is canon, it might still be good. Joss is a great writer but he's not perfect so he would still be a gamble 9although less of one than others undoubtedly). many of the writers of the Buffy novels would be just as capable of coming up with a film script (my own personal fave would be Chris Golden but there are plenty of good candidates).

Also, we must see it for what it is - a big screen Buffy. Now if it is canon and featuring the Scoobies, then frankly they would be nuts NOT to invite the original cast back but if its a year one re-boot then all the cast would look too old to play teenagers again (and would be pure nostalgia rathe than actually reasonable).

So I am remaining philosophical about this. I'll wait and se what actually happens rather than just dismissing something out of hand simply because such and such might not be involved.

[AndrewCrossett]

The saddest part is: in the past 17 years, the Kuzuis couldn't come up with a single new idea. They can't come up with anything but an attempt to leech off a franchise that is worthwhile ONLY because of what Joss did with it after the Kuzuis were no longer in a position to ruin his work.

A vampire is someone who nourishes himself by sucking the blood of those who actually have lives. Sounds to me like Buffy should be taking a stake to the Kuzuis.

[cheryl]

I personally have all the details that I will ever need on this subject.

1st detail = No SMG means no Buffy
2nd detail= No Joss means no Buffy
3rd detail= No scooby characters

Add all these together and for quite a few of us, that = no interest and even worse, a strong adversion to the thought being materialized into words, much less news.

If they are so keen on wanting to tap into the vampire franchise right now, let them start over. They could call it, Sunset.

Buffy doesn't need a redo. It's just fine with the creator and actors it has now. That's my opinion.

[Paul]

May 26, 2009 9:04:58 GMT -5 weredog said:

What I don't understand is why they would make a reboot so soon. The series is only 10 years old, so how could anybody -- fan or non-fan -- accept a swipe of something that is still relatively fresh television.

I kind of agree with this, it's a little soon to be remaking a show that only ended a few years ago. However, a clean reboot would probably appeal to a wider audience. If people think they need to have seen seven seasons of the show to understand the movie, they're less likely to go see it than if it were a new beginning. That's why comic book companies always reboot the numbering of their titles; #1s sell better because people like to come in at the start.

This is one of the reasons I don't think a canon Buffy movie would work at this stage. After season seven, the Buffyverse is a pretty complicated place, what with the Slayer army and the hugely expanded cast. I wonder if a two hour movie could do that justice and still make sense to the mainsteam audience. Even people who did watch the show back in the day might be confused, since not everyone is as obsessed as we are. Going back to the original, more simple, concept might be more appealing to the Average Joe the movie would be marketed towards.

[buffyrocksmylife]

Holy Crap! Without the original cast and Joss, the movie wouldn't be that good. I saw the 1992 movie....Ewww. If they renewed that same movie, maybe with Sarah and etc...It'd be better. Or do a whole new one. But, they'd have to use different cast since it's the beginning... But, I'm interested in it. It won't be the same, but give it a try.

[ambersknight]

I may border on blasphemy here but how do we know it will be worse? We haven't seen the script, have no clue as to the storyline, no idea who the actors involved are going to be and what calibre of acting they have. We don't know what sort of take the film will have (play it a straight up horror, or straight up comedy, or mix it up). Yet without any of these essential items that are needed before forming any relevant opinion people are dismissing this film before it gets even a green light.

I'm a big Buffy fan, and I'd like to see the original cast return but its not without its problems and as others have stated, it may not be really viable for a big screen outing. But as we know nothing about it that is relevant, I'm not going to dismiss it until there is a genuine reason to, if one should appear.

[Paul]

May 26, 2009 9:47:53 GMT -5 @ambersknight said:

I may border on blasphemy here but how do we know it will be worse? We haven't seen the script, have no clue as to the storyline, no idea who the actors involved are going to be and what calibre of acting they have. We don't know what sort of take the film will have (play it a straight up horror, or straight up comedy, or mix it up). Yet without any of these essential items that are needed before forming any relevant opinion people are dismissing this film before it gets even a green light.

I'm a big Buffy fan, and I'd like to see the original cast return but its not without its problems and as others have stated, it may not be really viable for a big screen outing. But as we know nothing about it that is relevant, I'm not going to dismiss it until there is a genuine reason to, if one should appear.

Karma for that open-minded, rational comment. I can't believe people are overreacting so much.

[Wyndam]

I don't so much see people overreacting, but see people realizing how stupid of an idea this is. What is the artistic value of this? A big budget Hollywood re-imagining of a series that is barely 10 years old? All it would amount to is some incapable young actress fighting some vampire threat that will most likely be a rehash of all we have seen before. No substance and teh potential to destroy everything we love about this franchise.

I don't see how any one could think Miley Cyrus or some other silly young actress becoming the next Buffy, without any of the "magic" Joss brings to the series, that is now tailored to the normal Hollywood masses (re: minimal substance in order to make the maximum amount of cash), would be a good idea.

In 5 years, if this movie is made, then people will be associating "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" with yet another terrible movie that bombed at the box office, and not the brilliant series we all know in love.

This is just a bad, bad idea.

[Emmie]

Paul, the fact that it's the Kuzui's is a big part of why people are "overreacting". And I echo what Wyndam said.

[ambersknight]

is it entirely possible people, that the Kuzui's may have learned from 7 seasons of Buffy and 5 of Angel and their re-boot might actually be good? to dismiss something out of hand without any evidence to back that dismissal up seems strange to me.

Yes, the movie might be terribly, pathetically bad but has anyone seen the script? Does anyone know the concept yet? Any news on the casting? NO, and until we get this information we cannot make any rational judgment about a thing that. as of yet, doesn't exist.

Calm down folks.

[rufio]

ok, just the fact that a new buffy movie is actually being considered makes me SO freakin' happy right now!! My first reaction to no joss or no smg was hell no! But like other posters said, there are plenty of other writers who know the buffyverse who could write an awesome script-and joss could probably find the time to review it and put any necessary touches on it. No SMG is more concerning to me. If it's not going to involve Buffy, how can it be a buffy the vamire slayer movie? If they did have someone else play buffy, it would be fine if we didn't have the other scoobies. I think a movie taking place in between the original movie and season one could be cool. I don't know, I don't think the original movie was that bad. Yes, it was cheesy (it was made in '92!), but I think it was damn funny and it's buffy!!! I LOVE SMG and know she is super busy but I'm warming up to the thought of someone else playing buffy. Kristy Swanson was the original anyway. Someone else might breathe new and refreshing life into the character.

[Lukee]

People are just worried that the Slayer-Verse is gong to get another bad movie. I mean the first one pretty much stunk. The only reason the show worked was because it ran for more then 2 hours and all. The story's got told on a wider scale.

Plus the only reason they are doing this movie is for the money not the love of the idea or anything. I mean they saw how big Twilight was and are now going to do another vampire movie thinking it will be just as big. Only that means it's gunna be very commercial and tacky just like Twilight. Gr

If it turns out good i will be suprised.

[AndrewCrossett]

There is no canonical Buffy without Joss. Period.

And there's no Buffy at all without Fox. Period.