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Post by snizapman6294 on Jun 2, 2009 23:02:06 GMT -5
Spike is "hurting" Vi's arm in Potential?
The chip, though malfunctioning, still works... and won't be removed until the next episode...
(and yes, at this point, if you cannot tell, i'm rewatching season 7)
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Post by deathisyourgift on Jun 2, 2009 23:12:28 GMT -5
I think that Vi's probably more scared than actually physically hurt. Also, perhaps it's because Spike's intention is not to hurt her?
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Post by snizapman6294 on Jun 2, 2009 23:15:04 GMT -5
that's what i was thinking... but then Vi says "ow" implying she was hurt... that's what's confusing me i guess.
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Post by Paul on Jun 3, 2009 9:23:25 GMT -5
Since the chip malfunctions completely in "The Killer in Me", it's not unreasonable to think it might have gone a little screwy beforehand. Lets just say it wasn't working properly.
The truth is the writers/actors probably just forgot about the chip in that scene.
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Post by xaphania on Jun 3, 2009 9:47:19 GMT -5
The continuity with Spike's chip always bothered me.
First, in The Intiative, we see him escaping from his cell - but pushing and throwing various scientists out the way. Surely that should have set it off? A few scenes later, we see him trying to bite Willow - and the chip fires. Okay, this can be fanwanked - perhaps, as the chip was new, it needed time to start working. I think Doug Petrie even mentions this on the commentary for that episode?
Then in S7 (The Killer in Me), we have Spike saying:
Er...no? He seemed as surprised as we were when the chip stopped him from biting Willow, so I'd say that was the first time it happened.
This just bugs me, because Spike's chip played such a big role in the series - you'd have thought they'd remember to get the continuity right.
On the hurting Vi thing - within the story, I guess, like he says in S5, it's to do with the intent. But yeah, the writers likely forgot.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Jun 3, 2009 10:00:47 GMT -5
I didn't even think about him hurting Vi's arm. But that he could throw around the doctors and what was said in The killer In Me has bothered me for some time.
The doctor-thing could be fanwanked, but not Vi's arm or the killer in me lines.
It was prett clear that Vi's arm hurt, and Spike noticed it and kept on smirking. Even if the chip didn't work then, shouldn't he have noticed"Oh, I can hurt humans, huh" and made scene about it? unless it had happened before of course, and he hadn't told anyone.
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Post by gumgnome on Jun 3, 2009 10:39:31 GMT -5
The fact of Buffy and Spike going to the Initiative in the first place always griped with me because at the end of Primeval the government suits order the place to be filled in with concrete! Obviously never got around to it...
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Post by iamthewalrus on Jun 3, 2009 13:14:53 GMT -5
The fact of Buffy and Spike going to the Initiative in the first place always griped with me because at the end of Primeval the government suits order the place to be filled in with concrete! Obviously never got around to it... that annoys me so much too :broody: |
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Jun 3, 2009 13:27:32 GMT -5
I wonder if Potential Slayers have a part-demon aspect to them, or if that is only acquired when they're activated as full Slayers.
If one believes that Spike could hit Buffy because her part-demonic nature made her register as non-human, would the same apply for the Potentials?
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Post by wenxina on Jun 3, 2009 13:47:28 GMT -5
I wonder if Potential Slayers have a part-demon aspect to them, or if that is only acquired when they're activated as full Slayers. If one believes that Spike could hit Buffy because her part-demonic nature made her register as non-human, would the same apply for the Potentials? Spike could hit Buffy because she was altered ever so slightly on a molecular level when she came back in "Bargaining", not because of the demon essence. In S5, it would have hurt if he tried hurting Buffy. Hence, Harmony's comment about how trying to shoot Buffy with a shotgun probably wasn't wise. And yes, while Harmony may be an idiot, Spike's comment indicated that he agreed with her conclusion. |
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Jun 3, 2009 14:08:27 GMT -5
Maybe the potentials are more demonic than full blown slayers? Which means that chiped Spike could hurt them but not Buffy (before she died)?
lol, no, that's fanwanking to hard.
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Anyones else who thinks that fanwanking sounds way too naughty? Specially now, when I combined it with "too hard"?
Atleast to us who knows some british slang?
EDIT-
About the chip:
It's possible that the chip could be controlled when he was in the initiative, which meant that the doctors could put on the chip whenever they wanted, when he was trying to attack the walls for example, when he was to "rambunctious". Then, when he left the initiative, the chip started working full time, because of a alarm system or something.
Which means that he could hurt humans until he escaped.
I don't think that's what the writers intended, but that's how I fanwank it. Still a continuity error tough.
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Post by Wyndam on Jun 3, 2009 14:32:42 GMT -5
Maybe the potentials are more demonic than full blown slayers? Which means that chiped Spike could hurt them but not Buffy (before she died)? While that is definitely fanwank, as you pointed out, that is a pretty interesting concept though. It raises questions about exactly why the potential's are who they are: possible next Slayer's. What really makes them the ideal candidate to become the next Slayer? Is it something in their genetic makeup? Or is it simply because they are just more capable when it comes to the skills a Slayer needs to save the world? |
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Post by gumgnome on Jun 3, 2009 14:33:11 GMT -5
^^I didn't realise there was another meaning to the word 'wank' apart from the British slang. Am i wrong?
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Jun 3, 2009 14:55:00 GMT -5
^^I didn't realise there was another meaning to the word 'wank' apart from the British slang. Am i wrong? Maybe not, but maybe some people only know the word wank from the word fanwanking? They don't know the british meaning, just the fan-meaning? |
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Post by snizapman6294 on Jun 3, 2009 19:30:08 GMT -5
I wonder if Potential Slayers have a part-demon aspect to them, or if that is only acquired when they're activated as full Slayers. If one believes that Spike could hit Buffy because her part-demonic nature made her register as non-human, would the same apply for the Potentials? it's possible... it could be that part of the potentials is dead and is revived when activated...? |
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