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Post by Malsad on Feb 11, 2009 9:06:02 GMT -5
maby u never know, i mean they're supost to be in love
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Post by hitnrun017 on Feb 11, 2009 15:12:10 GMT -5
I dont really forsee Gwen getting back with Conner. She betrayed him, hes mature enough to realise that. I think they could work it out. She betrayed him, but she also sacrificed her life for him. If someone I loved betrayed me but then saved my life by dying, they'd be instantly forgiven in my book. Connor being mad at her would be sort of low.
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Post by Hallow Thorn on Feb 14, 2009 23:36:30 GMT -5
I still think he should not take her back... (well, I have read why/how she betrayed) But I think there could still be a strong friendship there if she sacrificed her life for him... I am also finding it less likely that Cordy will be back... but then why have her on the cover ? (just for a flashback or as 'wind' again?) but then not have her on the covers for #12-#13 where her part was big in those issues..
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Post by patxshand on Feb 14, 2009 23:41:03 GMT -5
They wantd to keep her arrival in #12 a secret, so having her on the cover would be a spoiler.
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Post by Hallow Thorn on Feb 15, 2009 1:00:29 GMT -5
True, but what about #13 (Still hoping for the best in seeing her again)... I can't wait to see who is also coming back... Illyria is coming back right? and then she is off to 'Spike'? I also can't wait to see how Kate and Angel meet again...
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Post by Wyndam on Feb 16, 2009 9:44:24 GMT -5
Solicitation came out today for this issue (also added to first post):
ANGEL #21
Written by Kelley Armstrong, art by Dave Ross, covers by Gabriel Rodriguez and Nick Runge.
The aftermath of the city's return from hell continues to plague Angel, leading to a confrontation with the Powers-That-Be and some winged visitors from beyond the pale, even as Connor and Gwen face off with Dez.
32 pages, $3.99.
So it looks like Dez won't getting along very well with the group, and the warrior angel's will be messengers or soldiers for the Powers that Be.
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Post by Nina on Feb 16, 2009 10:29:30 GMT -5
I'm not sure if the angels are send by the PtB, very big chance that they are but they could be evil as well. Evil angels are way more fun. ;D
But I would love to hear of the PtB again, it's such a long time ago we heard something of the that was more than a vision, Cordelia or Jasmine. But something leads to a confrontation, I would like to know the reason. I mean, so many things went wrong and the PtB almost never do anything.
And team Gwonner *yay*
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Post by Wyndam on Feb 16, 2009 10:47:14 GMT -5
I'm not sure if the angels are send by the PtB, very big chance that they are but they could be evil as well. Evil angels are way more fun. ;D But I would love to hear of the PtB again, it's such a long time ago we heard something of the that was more than a vision, Cordelia or Jasmine. But something leads to a confrontation, I would like to know the reason. I mean, so many things went wrong and the PtB almost never do anything. Maybe the angel's are working for the PtB, but there is some sort of dissension in the ranks or something? Runge's cover for #22 makes it look like the two warrior angel's are against each other, so maybe the PtB have sent them to L.A. to do something, and the angel's disagree on that front. And I agree about the PtB, as we haven't really seen much from them since Season 3. They helped Angel out in Season 5, but only once, and that actually resulted in L.A. getting sent to hell. Since at the end of #17, Angel seems to be going back to the basics, it seems natural that the PtB would want to get involved again.
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Post by Joe on Feb 16, 2009 10:53:14 GMT -5
With Cordy on the cover, and with the sol. saying we will have a confrontation with TPTB I think she's gonna make another appearance. She's popping up too much. Cordy should remain dead.
At least Thorn will be happy.
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Post by iloveromy on Feb 16, 2009 10:58:05 GMT -5
I wonder if the visions will come in to play and who will get them...
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Post by Nina on Feb 16, 2009 12:36:51 GMT -5
And I agree about the PtB, as we haven't really seen much from them since Season 3. They helped Angel out in Season 5, but only once, and that actually resulted in L.A. getting sent to hell. Since at the end of #17, Angel seems to be going back to the basics, it seems natural that the PtB would want to get involved again. Maybe that's where the 'confrontation' is about. The Power did lead Angel and LA to hell, why would they do that? Maybe to get Angel back on the right path or to stop the apocalypse?
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Post by Emmie on Feb 16, 2009 13:01:27 GMT -5
With Cordy on the cover, and with the sol. saying we will have a confrontation with TPTB I think she's gonna make another appearance. She's popping up too much. Cordy should remain dead. Ugh. And yes, I agree. It's starting to look that way certainly. At least Thorn will be happy. Yay for Thorn! Not so 'yay!' for others, though.
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Post by Hallow Thorn on Feb 16, 2009 16:43:51 GMT -5
Yay for me ... more Higher Being Cordy... I am happy that she is part of the story again, way not, she genuinely serves with the Powers That Be and with TPTB storyline it makes sense to have her part of it.... (well, that is if she is really back)
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Post by Whedon Fan on Feb 16, 2009 17:49:18 GMT -5
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Post by Wyndam on Feb 16, 2009 18:12:33 GMT -5
Everyone let's remember that we have 100% no confirmation of any kind that Cordy is even making an appearance in AFTERMATH. All we have is her picture on the cover. I know that alone is cause for worry if you don't want her to return, but again, it's just a picture on a cover.
I have a feeling that Cordy is only on the cover because of the PTB involvement in the AFTERMATH storyline. I have been suspecting for a while that someone was going to get the visions (possibly Connor, as he is part demon), after #17 has Angel reopening Angel Investigations and leading a simpler life again (warranting the PTB's to want to recruit his help again). That's the only reason I think Cordy is on the cover. At most she would appear in a flashback, but who knows at this point.
I could be completely wrong and Cordy will get resurrected in #21, but I highly doubt it is that serious or any cause for too much worrying at this point.
My personal feelings on the subject of Cordy are that if it services the story, I don't have a problem with an appearance. She more or less died of a mystical death, and in the Buffyverse, that is never a done deal.
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Post by Hallow Thorn on Feb 16, 2009 21:00:53 GMT -5
That's right Wyndam, It was a mystical death and she is a higher being... and she might only be on the cover because of TPTB involvement and not even be in it at all ... anyway I like that about Connor getting Visions and if not maybe Gwen? ...
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Post by Whedon Fan on Feb 19, 2009 19:08:45 GMT -5
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Post by Wyndam on Feb 19, 2009 19:12:54 GMT -5
I'd be all for Connor getting the visions. Maybe if Connor accpeted them somehow and they weren't a burden on him like with Cordy (seasons 1-3) and Doyle. Angel would be pi$$ed though at Connor for taking the visions....or would he? Maybe he'd be proud, a way of Connor growing up and another way of having a part of Cordy and Doyle living on through his son. Hmmm, speculation. What does everyone think? I don't think Angel would want Connor to get the visions, unless Connor himself wanted them. If he is given them unwillingly (like Cordy), Angel will probably be really pissed. Since Connor has demon in them, I would imagine the visions wouldn't be much of a burden. This is all assuming someone will be getting the visions again. I was kind of leaping to conclusions when I saw that the PTB's were getting involved again, but I do think it would be awesome if the visions were re-introduced.
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Post by Hallow Thorn on Feb 20, 2009 2:19:53 GMT -5
Again, this is if anyone is even getting the Visions and If Cordy is even appearing lol….
Why can't Angel just get them himself and cut out the middle man? Now, that I think of it I don't want anyone but Angel to have them, They were such a big part of Doyle and Cordy and I feel they can't just be passed on to anyone with out tarnishing there good work, I hope Cordy come back in this Issue and gives them to Angel again like in season 5 but for good...
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Post by Malsad on Feb 28, 2009 20:48:31 GMT -5
and it is confirmed Cory is appearing
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