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Post by hitnrun017 on Apr 4, 2009 16:53:16 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, what are the viewerships and demos of the other shows on Friday, and how do they compare to other genre shows on Fox and other networks? I don't think I'm the only one who thinks Dollhouse could be successful on a different network. are the numbers for everything last night. Most of Dollhouse's competition were in repeats. And I don't think Dollhouse could change networks, Eliza is has an exclusive contract with FOX. |
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Post by Mathieu on Apr 4, 2009 17:02:58 GMT -5
After seeing last night's episode, I really wonder how they could do five seasons of Dollhouse anyway. i mean Buffy was the perfect show for a long run because they could come up with a "bigger bad" every year. I don't see Dollhouse being still as exciting and fun beyond a potential season 2. I really liked how every season of BTVS had its super villain. it was something to look forward to at the beginning of every season. sigh
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Post by Rebecca on Apr 4, 2009 17:14:08 GMT -5
Thanks for the link. I wonder what the DVR/Hulu ratings are, if they look better than live airings, and whether the network even cares. There is a possibility that Fox will take Hulu ratings into account because they and NBC collaborated on the project. And I don't think Dollhouse could change networks, Eliza is has an exclusive contract with FOX. That was a bad career move, lol. When is that up? |
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Post by snizapman6294 on Apr 4, 2009 17:20:36 GMT -5
And I don't think Dollhouse could change networks, Eliza is has an exclusive contract with FOX. That was a bad career move, lol. When is that up? i believe whenever Dollhouse is over. Contracts usually go: 1) 1 season 2) renewed for 2 more seasons (until season 3) 3) and after that, i believe it goes for every 2 years. |
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Post by hitnrun017 on Apr 4, 2009 17:21:58 GMT -5
I wish it was now.  A link to the story is here. |
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Post by snizapman6294 on Apr 4, 2009 17:26:01 GMT -5
I just realized that fox has screwed over both Eliza and Joss!!!
Eliza with Tru Calling (how the second season episode count kept getting slashed after every episode, never airing the finale)
Joss obviously with Firefly.
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Post by Rebecca on Apr 4, 2009 17:29:45 GMT -5
And that would still prohibit Dollhouse from moving to another network, even though if it didn't renew, Eliza's contract would be up with the network? The logic goes in circles.
Oh an btw, it looks like watching Dollhouse on Hulu won't help ratings, but watching it on Fox.com will. I dunno, seems like it should be the same.
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Post by snizapman6294 on Apr 4, 2009 17:31:48 GMT -5
well, i think Eliza already signed her 2 year extention contract. i'm not absolutely 100% sure, but you're absolutely right, the logic does indeed go in circles.
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Post by hitnrun017 on Apr 4, 2009 17:48:21 GMT -5
Olivia Williams said on the Late Late Show that she signed up for eight years on the show, so I don't know how it works either.
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Post by snizapman6294 on Apr 4, 2009 17:55:08 GMT -5
really? how the hell does that work out?
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Post by Mathieu on Apr 4, 2009 18:40:55 GMT -5
And that would still prohibit Dollhouse from moving to another network, even though if it didn't renew, Eliza's contract would be up with the network? The logic goes in circles. Oh an btw, it looks like watching Dollhouse on Hulu won't help ratings, but watching it on Fox.com will. I dunno, seems like it should be the same. Makes sense actually. They still make money out of the episodes they post on the website thanks to their limited commercial breaks thing, I guess. They don't make any money when people go on hulu. |
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Apr 4, 2009 18:54:44 GMT -5
If it moved to cable it would probably have to be FX, which is owned by Fox.
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Post by Rebecca on Apr 4, 2009 19:00:22 GMT -5
And that would still prohibit Dollhouse from moving to another network, even though if it didn't renew, Eliza's contract would be up with the network? The logic goes in circles. Oh an btw, it looks like watching Dollhouse on Hulu won't help ratings, but watching it on Fox.com will. I dunno, seems like it should be the same. Makes sense actually. They still make money out of the episodes they post on the website thanks to their limited commercial breaks thing, I guess. They don't make any money when people go on hulu. It's because Hulu is an independent subsidiary that was funded by Fox and NBC. Profits from Hulu aren't counted in profits for Fox or the show. |
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Post by Tyler Austin "tiewashere" on Apr 4, 2009 23:16:14 GMT -5
After seeing last night's episode, I really wonder how they could do five seasons of Dollhouse anyway. i mean Buffy was the perfect show for a long run because they could come up with a "bigger bad" every year. I don't see Dollhouse being still as exciting and fun beyond a potential season 2. I really liked how every season of BTVS had its super villain. it was something to look forward to at the beginning of every season. sigh Joss laid out a five year plan to FOX before they even saw a script for an episode. So they CAN do five seasons. FOX knows what happens, and so does Joss. So it's all planned out. |
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Post by henzINNIT on Apr 5, 2009 8:18:07 GMT -5
There's so many ways Dollhouse can develop for 5 years. It's moving much more quickly than I imagined but there's so many new tangents invented each episode that I'm sure it could go on for a long time.
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Post by Joe on Apr 5, 2009 8:44:59 GMT -5
After seeing last night's episode, I really wonder how they could do five seasons of Dollhouse anyway. i mean Buffy was the perfect show for a long run because they could come up with a "bigger bad" every year. I don't see Dollhouse being still as exciting and fun beyond a potential season 2. I really liked how every season of BTVS had its super villain. it was something to look forward to at the beginning of every season. sigh The bottom line is that you just gotta trust Joss. I don't see where else it can go as well, but I do trust him and I know he has a great plan behind it all with many storylines. |
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Post by underbuffysspell on Apr 5, 2009 9:20:32 GMT -5
'Needs' is currently at #2 on iTunes!! It's only been up for less than a day!
I think Fox was looking more at internet viewing, iTunes, and DVR/Tivo numbers as opposed to actual ratings.
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Post by Joe on Apr 5, 2009 9:31:16 GMT -5
Dollhouse is also doing great on Hulu.
Show as a whole:
Rank #3 for today
Rank #9 for this week
Rank #7 for this month
Rank #20 for all time
Single Episodes:[/u]
Rank #1 for today (Needs)
Rank #7 for this week (Echoes)
Rank #23 for this month (Grey Hour)
Rank #76 for all time (Grey Hour)
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Post by wenxina on Apr 5, 2009 10:05:53 GMT -5
Not sure if this helps any, but you can preorder Season 1 on Blu-ray on Amazon.com. Pretty good deal since it's a 30% discount of the original price. Do DVD/Blu-ray sales factor into decision making? |
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Post by Wyndam on Apr 5, 2009 10:26:19 GMT -5
Not sure if this helps any, but you can preorder Season 1 on Blu-ray on Amazon.com. Pretty good deal since it's a 30% discount of the original price. Do DVD/Blu-ray sales factor into decision making? It really just depends on when the DVD/Blu-Ray comes out. If it was coming out in June or July, like some season sets seem to be this year, then they could take the sales/interest into account. That's pushing it though since we will most likely hear a decision about Dollhouse's future by the end of May, or in June. The DVD/Blu-Ray will probably just come out in the Fall though, which is really just too late to do much. |
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