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Post by Kratos on Jun 13, 2009 10:18:14 GMT -5
Do we have any idea when we'll get new info on this? Or is there an upcoming comic event?
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Post by Wyndam on Jun 15, 2009 17:15:17 GMT -5
Do we have any idea when we'll get new info on this? Or is there an upcoming comic event? San Diego Comic Con is in about 5 weeks, so we will probably learn more about the series then. Brian did say though that it probably will launch later than the Fall, as originally planned. That's about all we have heard recently.
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Post by The Night Lord on Jun 17, 2009 4:23:17 GMT -5
5 weeks? 5 agonising weeks? *groans and mopes* but we'll learn new and cool stuff, right? That'll be great
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Post by VampSlayer on Jun 27, 2009 14:54:48 GMT -5
I'm still a bit disappointed that Illyria wont be in Spike's gang with him, since she's in Only Human. I really liked their scenes together in AtF. But Bek can make up for her, because Beth is also amazing! And so is George!(Im hoping he'll be making a return.) And Tok is also interesting! Cant wait to hear more about this series!
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Post by Wyndam on Jun 27, 2009 15:49:17 GMT -5
I'm still a bit disappointed that Illyria wont be in Spike's gang with him, since she's in Only Human. I really liked their scenes together in AtF. Well we don't really know who will be in Spike yet, or how it will work in terms of crossovers with Angel. Plus, since Brian is doing the next 6 issues of Angel, the start of this new series was pushed back a bit. I still think we will see quite a bit of crossover with the two series, but I doubt Illyria will be strictly a part of Spike's team. With the way Only Human is set for release (August-November), and then the next Angel creative team starting in #28 (around November as well), it seems like Gunn and Illyria will be rejoining Team Angel in #28. This is all just speculation on my part though, since we really haven't learned much at all about Spike's new series or what is coming after Angel #25.
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Post by Kratos on Jun 27, 2009 19:37:53 GMT -5
I'm still a bit disappointed that Illyria wont be in Spike's gang with him, since she's in Only Human. I really liked their scenes together in AtF. I'm actually hoping that Illyria won't be featured too much in the Spike series, i never liked Illyria and i liked her even less in Spike After the fall where she was made uber. Ugh, i just don't like partnership, it feels wrong and unnatural. Lorne is the only character from the Angel-team i would want to see moved to Spike's-team. Which in my mind consists of Beck,Tok and Betta. I really hope we get new info on this at comic-con. There is so much potential for this. Where will it take place? Hopefully around the world, i hardly think LA needs 2 souled vampires and anyway LA was always Angel's town, Spike needs to carve out his own destiny in the world. Will it be a dark,epic action series or angsty,comedic,drama,depressing,ect. And of course will Buffy ever be allowed to crossover for a few issues, like in Angel season 1? There has never been a good Spike/Buffy comic series, at the time big developments were happening in season7 Buffy, DarkHorse completely ignored souled champion Spike, i hope IDW can do better then them. So many questions.
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Post by kaleidoscope on Jun 28, 2009 3:30:50 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to more news about this series as well. I definately would like to see Beck and Tok play prominent roles - and Lorne as well ! He was such a good fit as a character working alongside Spike in 'Shadow Puppets.' Regular visits from Angel and Illyria would also be welcome. Somewhere along the line, I'd like to see Spike run into Anne, who he hasn't met up with since 'Lie to Me.'
It'll be interesting to see what Brian has in mind.
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Post by bamph on Jun 29, 2009 0:30:17 GMT -5
I suspect Dark Horse doesn't want Buffy used at IDW which is one reason why Buffy hasn't really crossed over to the any of the IDW Angel books. I guess if they really needed a Buffy character for a guest appearence for story reasons they could try to work something through Joss but I get the vibe that Dark Horse is keeping a tight reign on letting any sort of crossover where Dark Horse has more freedom to use Angel and Spike due to Joss doing season 8. I seem to remember Brian Lynch mentioning that they almost used a Buffy character in a small role in After The Fall but he and Joss ultimately felt it wasn't necessary. But in this months myspace darkhorse presents it looks like the Angel/Buffy/Spike thing might be addressed.Joss has written a three page season 8 tie-in story drawn by Jo Chen that will have Buffy meeting up with some familiar love interests. The old love interests Buffy is meeting up with in this three page story by Joss and Jo has been heavily suspected to be Angel and Spike. www.myspace.com/darkhorsepresentsIt should be up Wednesday,the same day Buffy #26 comes out.I guess we'll know if it's Angel and Spike then. In Scott Allie's last Q/A,he indicated the story is more comical than serious.
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Post by Kratos on Jun 29, 2009 1:23:51 GMT -5
I think it makes more sense that Joss doesn't want Buffy to crossover, it would be much easier to bring Spike over to Buffy series which is mostly written by Joss himself then the other way around. And DarkHorse has very little to say, Joss is the one that ownes all these characters, he decides how everything goes.
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Post by The Night Lord on Jun 29, 2009 1:47:12 GMT -5
I thought it was the other way around *shrugs* Learn something new every day, I guess. I'm a little iffy on a Buffy/Spike crossover, though I do think they should meet up again, cuz like I've said numerous times, there's some issues that need resolving
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Post by bamph on Jun 29, 2009 9:05:45 GMT -5
I think that's what we've really been seeing on the Spike and Angel front.
Actually I don't think Joss owns any of these characters other then maybe Fray.20th Century Fox and the Kuzis do.It's one of the reasons we have that Whedonless Buffy reboot movie now in the pipeline.I believe Joss sold away any ownership he had for the Buffy character specifically to the Kuzis in order to get his original script made back in 92.Fox pretty much owns everything else fully.I could be wrong though.
Dark Horse bought the licensees rights from Fox to produce comic stories using the Buffy characters.They let the licensees rights to Angel go which IDW picked up.However Dark Horse retained a clause that would let them occasionally use the Angel and Spike character.I don't think IDW has that same clause to use Buffy.
That dosen't mean something couldn't be worked out if IDW felt they really needed her or any Buffy character for a guest appearence for story reasons.They can probably request it and Joss himself could probably make it happen.
I think,unlike The WB/UPN situation,both Dark Horse and IDW are more willing to be looser in order to make Joss as Buffy's creator happy.It's probably in there best interest not to play really hardball.Even if Joss doesn't own the characters himself,he's still the creator and the creative force behind the Buffyverse and I think both publishers want to make him happy.If he wants someone to guest star wherever than I don't see them telling him no.
I might be wrong on some of this stuff so someone more in the know could probably correct anything I'm off about.
Well,I think that will be coming on Wed. in that webcomic tie-in by Joss and Jo assuming it is Angel and Spike who are meeting up with Buffy.Although how much will be done in three pages between Angel/Buffy/Spike we'll have to see.Also I expect that it wil be played more for laughs based off Scott Allie's comments.This is just speculation but I think it will Joss poking fun at/having fun with the shipper factions.Sort of like the episode,The Girl In Question.
In regards to the Spike series,I'm hoping some characters like Gunn,Illyria,Connor and Lorne float back and forth between the Angel monthly and the Spike monthly.I'm sure Angel and Spike themselves will.
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Post by Kratos on Jun 29, 2009 10:09:39 GMT -5
No, the kuzais don't own the Buffy rights in comics or television. They only own the movie rights which is why they can make a reboot movie now, not that it matters, withouth Joss it will fail big time. Yes, DH lost the Angel comic rights but Joss has stated he could use whatever character he wants. He chooses not to use any Angel character because they have no place in Season8 Buffy. Only Spike and Angel matter in that respect, Spike's last season was on Angel but he will always be a Buffyverse character first. He spent 4 years as a regular on Buffy. Joss himself stated he would use Spike whenever he wants but didn't want him to simply waste away as a background character, he compared how he would use Spike to Galactus of fantastic four, too big of a character to waste. That's why i think Spike will appear around the final arc, written by Joss himself. And Joss is very much in control of his creations, DH were failing badly with comics, which is why they let Angel go. It's only because Joss himself is overseeing and making these comics that they are selling this good. That's what most fans want, Joss's comics. Ugh, no thanks.
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Post by Brian Lynch on Jun 30, 2009 20:45:48 GMT -5
Kratos has his finger on the pulse...of something...
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Post by Kratos on Jul 1, 2009 8:44:36 GMT -5
Kratos has his finger on the pulse...of something... Sorry, don't quite know what that expression means. If it has something to do with me acting as if i "have" some inside knowledge, sorry to dissapoint. I just read interviews, unless you think that everybody that does do's is lying?
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Post by Wyndam on Jul 1, 2009 11:18:40 GMT -5
Kratos has his finger on the pulse...of something... Sorry, don't quite know what that expression means. If it has something to do with me acting as if i "have" some inside knowledge, sorry to dissapoint. I just read interviews, unless you think that everybody that does do's is lying? Think he just means you are on to something with your above post.
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Post by Kratos on Jul 1, 2009 12:59:07 GMT -5
Think he just means you are on to something with your above post. Ah ok, nevermind just call me slowpoke ;D
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Post by Kratos on Jul 2, 2009 20:04:26 GMT -5
2. Some of those characters you mentioned may not be popping up in the SPIKE series. Planning the stories now, there might not be a place. I can say that the series might not be called simply "SPIKE" because I want to differentiate between this book and other SPIKE books that came before, give it it's own stamp. Something like THE ADVENTURES OF SPIKE but if you guys have any ideas, we can start a thread. I copied this from the Q&A, i put it here instead of creating a new thread so there's atleast still some action going on to compensate for the lack of info. I'll throw out some ideas: THE CHRONICLES OF SPIKE THE CHRONICLES OF WILLIAM THE BLOODY TALES OF SPIKE SPIKE'S TALES SPIKE THE SLAYER(in the meaning that he kills/slays things, not that he's a male slayer which isn't allowed. I think Angel was also called Angel the vampire slayer in After the fall.) SPIKE THE DESTROYER SPIKE THE VAMPIRE WITH A SOUL(kinda cheesy DARK WARRIOR WILLIAM THE BLOODY SLAYER OF SLAYERS(not really relevant anymore and it's Buffy's new nickname.) SPIKE'S CRYPT SPIKE'S APACOLYPSES SPIKE THE VAMPIRE SPIKE THE DEMON
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Jul 2, 2009 20:47:58 GMT -5
"Tales of Spike" has a good ring to it.
I'm trying to think of a name that Spike himself wouldn't mock, but that's hard...
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Post by Wyndam on Jul 2, 2009 20:52:53 GMT -5
I like Chronicles of Spike and Tales of Spike.
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Post by Kratos on Jul 2, 2009 21:54:02 GMT -5
I'm trying to think of a name that Spike himself wouldn't mock, but that's hard... It really is
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