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Post by Emmie on Apr 16, 2008 19:19:19 GMT -5
While thinking and probably overthinking about the mystery of Twilight, the themes of Season 8 started hitting me upside the head. Each time I reread all 13 issues, they keep getting better and better. Which tells me that there's much depth at work here to appreciate. Anyways...
Some of the themes I've noticed are:
-Power corrupts
-Betrayal
-Solitude
-Trust
- Duty vs Self-Interest
What do you think are some other themes in Season 8?
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Post by VampSlayer on Apr 16, 2008 19:23:33 GMT -5
Trust
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Post by iloveromy on Apr 16, 2008 19:25:07 GMT -5
Agreed. Trust.
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Post by hitnrun017 on Apr 16, 2008 19:29:26 GMT -5
-Greed (Buffy robbing a bank, Gigi wanting what Buffy has)
-Revenge (Warren getting back at Willow)
-Redemption (Ethan helping out Buffy)
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Post by ded1 on Apr 16, 2008 19:30:44 GMT -5
I'll go with trust as well [although it would seem that you could throw all of them in a blender and the result would be the theme,as there are elements of all of them
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Post by Emmie on Apr 16, 2008 19:32:54 GMT -5
Sorry guys...i just modified my post. I didn't mean to word it to ask for y'all to have to choose only one theme. I was just wanting to start off a list of themes.
More themes:
-Loyalty (Buffy going to rescue Willow)
-The lack of a longterm relationship in a career-oriented environment lol.
-Isolation from the outside world (living in a castle, no civilians around to notice Giant Dawn)
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Post by wenxina on Apr 16, 2008 19:47:44 GMT -5
Family. Buffy's going after Willow was more than loyalty. Her orders to Satsu were to leave if she gave the order, but she would not leave without Willow.
Connection. Goes hand in hand with family, but right now, Dawn's not feeling much of either. Could be something to be explored. Also, as an addendum to the whole isolation bit, Buffy's not feeling connected to the other girls. Also, she's had falling outs with some of her core group members.
Destiny. The whole Fray deal in the future bits could throw this for a loop, but right now, destiny's huge. The Scythe was meant for <i>the</i> Slayer (or head slayer, as Faith pointed out), and Buffy's it for now.
Also, Faith's finally figuring out what her calling is, as seen at the end of her arc.
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Post by Emmie on Apr 16, 2008 20:17:59 GMT -5
Humanity.
Good vs Evil. Who is good, who is evil?
The ends justify the means.
Secrets & Lies.
Wetworks and undercover jobs are neat-o.
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Post by wenxina on Apr 16, 2008 21:20:11 GMT -5
Humanity. Good vs Evil. Who is good, who is evil? The ends justify the means. Secrets & Lies. Wetworks and undercover jobs are neat-o. The wetworks bit kinda irks me some. It's just very ill-defined so far, and I'm not sure just how far they will go. The other thing that I've been wondering is how involved Buffy is in making these decisions. Was she even involved in the forming of the wetworks teams? She's aware of them, and the undercover bits, but it seems that she's always out of the loop. She doesn't really know much about her decoys, other than their vague location. She was not informed when Giles got Faith to kill Gigi. Probably not the best place to be having these thoughts, but I thought it went well with the general idea of your post, about the whole good vs. evil thing, and the bit about how the ends justify the means. |
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Post by dane5by5 on Apr 17, 2008 0:58:27 GMT -5
I think this "season" will continue with the strong existential themes that were present in season six and seven. Mostly alienation/isolation. Which is something I find perfectly natural in the current situation Buffy is in, and is a poignant development from "Chosen" which had such a strong sense of togetherness and hope. What I find interesting is what the audience thought would relieve Buffy's isolation from the rest of the world, is actually the thing that isolated her even more. I think that really say's something about Buffy's destiny. Which I think will be another strong theme in this "season". No matter what Buffy does, she will always be alone. Which is sad.
I think like "hitandrun" said, redemption will be another overarching theme this "season", I think it's arguably one of the cornerstone themes of the Buffyverse.
Power corrupts I can see being another prominent theme this "season".
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Apr 18, 2008 6:36:03 GMT -5
Another important theme that finally has been dealt with (long way Home) is that the humans in the shows kill what thay fear.
The watcher's council, which Buffy now controls, doesn't seem to care about a demon's guilt before killing them. For example when they tried to kill Angel in season one of Angel. They didn't even care that Faith/Buffy and wesley almost got shot too. They were racists in the true form of the word, not asking for guilt but for race/specie.
If it looks demon-y, kill it. That's the mentality of all good guys of the shows. in the beginning of season two of angel, Angel kills a demon who turns out to be a good guy, and in season three Gunn's friends kill harmless demons. it wouldn't surprise me if Buffy happened to kill a harmless demon or two, just because it looked demon-y.
Meanwhile, Ethan Rayne, Ford, Anya as human, the trio, Ben,etc, who almost killed Buffy and other innocents, they aren't concidered monsters, just because they are humans.
Anyway, my point is, the general in Long way home showed buffy how it is to be on the other side, to be a freak. i hope that will be explored later on in the season.
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