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Post by buffysmglover on May 16, 2008 20:13:08 GMT -5
The Sexual Orientation thread has sparked some questions in my mind.
Some people believe that every person on this Earth is at least a little bisexual, and most are just too embarrased to say anything about their feelings. Do you believe this personally?
Also, if you're someone who says "Oh, I've never been attracted to the same sex," do you mean physically, or also in the sense of being attracted to the same sex for who they are, not their physical characteristics? And do you think it's possible you ever would fall for the same sex depending on what the person was like, not their appearance?
This last one was sparked from Luke's post saying "The way i see it in the end you will chose one sex to be with who you love and all", and I responded that that'd be more a single person than an entire gender race... I'm very curious about this.
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Post by Mathieu on May 17, 2008 6:06:13 GMT -5
I guess I started it all with my question in the first place. So I stick to what I said. I think that everybody is at least a little bisexual and most people try to hide it. That being said it might be just a silly idea of mine because I happen to be bisexual, just like straight people (if they do exist!!) think it's simply wrong to be gay because they don't know what it is to be gay and our societey leads them to think it's not something natural.
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Post by Mathieu on May 17, 2008 6:31:08 GMT -5
How can you be completely un-turned-on by women??? Just try to picture yourself with Pamela Anderson in Baywatch?? Wouldn't you go all the way with her? Seriously?
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Post by Mathieu on May 17, 2008 8:38:23 GMT -5
Absolutely not, she sickens me. LOL But let me pick who I think is the hottest female on the planet...  No. Definitely not, no way. There's just zero sexual attraction there. I wouldn't be able to get aroused, and it would just feel wrong and icky and gross to me. Could you get it up to bone your mother? I'm guessing no. LOL It's like that. Ok, fine!! I guess I was wrong with the whole we are all bisexual theory! |
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Post by mattitudev2 on May 17, 2008 8:56:11 GMT -5
Well when I say that everyone is at least bisexual to a small degree, I don't mean that any actual sex would have to be involved at all. IMO, just the fact that you are able to recognize an attractive woman is a very small degree of bisexuality.
Even though you would never go to bed with her in a million years, there is still some sort of attraction there.
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Post by Mathieu on May 17, 2008 11:58:56 GMT -5
Being able to see the beauty in somebody has nothing to do with sexual attraction. There is NOTHING sexually attractive about women to me. We're talking about SEXUAL orientation. I got your point and I think you're right. There's a huge difference between seeing the beauty in somebody and being attracted to them. One of my friends is gay and he's all about fashion and stuff, he likes to see beautiful women but he's never been attracted to them, I believe. |
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Post by henzINNIT on May 17, 2008 16:38:45 GMT -5
Nah. I'm not attracted to guys.
I think there are more potential bisexual people than the ones who exist, but I think bi is somewhat of a life choice compared to being straight or gay so it will always be less defined.
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Post by Jsebold87 on May 17, 2008 19:30:54 GMT -5
I'm straight, I wouldn't call myself bi at all. I do recognize other women who I think are beautiful, I just don't think of them in a sexual way.
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Post by mattitudev2 on May 17, 2008 19:50:36 GMT -5
Being able to see the beauty in somebody has nothing to do with sexual attraction. There is NOTHING sexually attractive about women to me. We're talking about SEXUAL orientation. Here is my logic: If you had absolutely 0% attraction to women whatsoever, nothing, nada...then the difference between Angelina Jolie or Sissy Spacek or the tiny lady from Poltergeist wouldn't phase you one way or the other, because you would be flat-out and utterly oblivious. They would all be equally unattractive to you. Being a bisexual person, it is much deeper to me than simply "I want to go to bed with this person." It is that easy for me, only because I'm basically right down the middle and could go either way. However, not everybody is. To me, bisexuality has so many more degrees to it than that. If someone was 100% straight or 100% gay with no ifs, ands or buts then I feel like they would have no ability for judging the gender they're not attracted to because they would have no idea what would even be attractive about that gender. So, whether someone is 50/50, 70/30, 99.9/0.01...I believe that everybody has that contrast within them. |
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Post by buffysmglover on May 17, 2008 20:17:05 GMT -5
Being a bisexual person, it is much deeper to me than simply "I want to go to bed with this person." It is that easy for me, only because I'm basically right down the middle and could go either way. However, not everybody is. See, that's what I was most curious about. |
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Post by Mathieu on May 17, 2008 21:06:41 GMT -5
Nah. I'm not attracted to guys. I think there are more potential bisexual people than the ones who exist, but I think bi is somewhat of a life choice compared to being straight or gay so it will always be less defined. What do you mean?? I know I am attracted to guys but I chose not to act on it and only date girls. Does that make me less bisexual in reality? |
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Post by henzINNIT on May 18, 2008 5:03:12 GMT -5
^ No not at all.
The difference between bi and gay/straight in my opinion - As a bi person, you can choose to date only girls and title yourself "straight" if you want. It wouldn't be the betrayal of inner feelings that it would be for a gay person to live as a straight person, as really you're still dating people you're attracted to, you're just limiting your choices.
I think most people will have an instance of being attracted to someone outside their orientation even if only briefly. It doesn't make them bi in my opinion, because I think being bi is a choice to pursue both sexes.
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Post by mattitudev2 on May 18, 2008 8:57:45 GMT -5
It's kind of sad that you think the only judgement of beauty comes from sexuality. Do you not believe in art as well? I think we'll just have to agree to disagree, because I feel like you're continually just oblivious to what I'm actually trying to say. |
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Post by buffike on May 18, 2008 14:09:49 GMT -5
You're saying that I have some level of sexual attraction to women because I can judge whether they are attractive or not, and that's bull. I'm not oblivious to what you're saying, I just know for a fact inside my own mind since we're talking about MY mind that you're wrong. I think what Mattitude v2 is trying to say is that it's impossible to say that a Straight/Gay person will never have a "sexual" attraction to the Opposite/Same Sex, therefore everyone has a degree of bisexuality. I think for bisexuals it's easier to understand because they just base their attractions on a person to person scale. There are a lot of different types of women and men. I've had straight male friends that have been sexually attracted to japanese males that have very feminine features and gay male friends that were attracted to females that have a very male looks/rocker boy style. It doesn't matter if it will or won't lead to sex, there is someone out in the world that the opposite/same sex would be sexually attracted too. |
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Post by faith0tvs on May 21, 2008 7:46:10 GMT -5
Well you guys seem to misconceive a couple of things ,the ability to recognize beauty and sexual attraction.And to make my point clear i will give you an example
I dont like to wear girly clothing or women's formal clothing but when my sister asks me about something i will usually give her some advice based on what i think will look good on her.It doesn't mean that i would like to wear the same clothes as her.
One can see beauty in many things i.e. art ,cars, trees etc .Does that mean that he/she is sexually attracted to them?No,she just recognize the fact that they're beautiful or pretty.Same thing with people,i've never been sexually attracted to guys but i can see that i.e. Brad Pitt is handsome whilst Vincent Cassel is not.
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Post by mattitudev2 on May 21, 2008 12:27:24 GMT -5
It's just my opinion, right or wrong, it's the way I feel.
I perceive "attraction" and "sexual attraction" as two different things. "I find that person attractive" vs. "I want to go to bed with that person."
Yes, bisexuality does have a great deal to do with sexual attraction, but I don't feel like it's specifically 100% limited to that. I feel like the people who have smaller (or almost miniscule) degrees of it are in the "attraction" phase as opposed to the "sexual attraction" phase. That is why if someone is 95% heterosexual and 5% homosexual, it's most likely that that person will never have sexual relations with someone of the same gender...but they will still occasionally find them attractive.
I suppose it's just my opinion that bisexuality is not as black-and-white as "I want to sleep with this person, not this person." I see it as a much broader spectrum and a constant state of being.
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Post by commandercool on May 21, 2008 14:42:39 GMT -5
Yeah, I see what you're saying. I consider myself "straight", pretty much 100%, but given the oppurtunity, I would totally do Oliver Queen (Green Arrow). But that will never happen. Because he's fictional.
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Post by Disgruntled Gremlin on May 22, 2008 0:05:52 GMT -5
I hate dating fictional guys. They can be so emotionally unavailable.
Though the sex is always great.
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Post by Emmie on May 22, 2008 0:23:35 GMT -5
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Post by wenxina on May 22, 2008 10:41:14 GMT -5
I hate dating fictional guys. They can be so emotionally unavailable. Though the sex is always great. Kinda have to bless you for this one.  |
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