rogue11
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Post by rogue11 on Jan 2, 2009 12:33:25 GMT -5
What if at the end of the Buffy season 8, 9 comics and the Angel After the Fall, Aftermath comics there is a happy ending? And what i mean by that is what if Buffy and Angel end up together again like some true love story. If you look at the two characters in the "continuation" comics, they've both lost so many people close to them and they both are very isolated in their respective ways. What if the best thing for both of them is to get together again.
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Post by tms on Jan 2, 2009 15:54:19 GMT -5
idk if that would be the best thing. They were very good together - thought their relationship was doomed from the beginning - but they seem to end up with bad relationships.
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Post by Without Passion on Jan 2, 2009 16:06:30 GMT -5
I'm convinced that Buffy and Angel will end up happy together someday. I think it'd be so awesome to see them live happily ever after, but I think it'd get boring after a while and I don't think it'd come this soon. It seems more like a final ending to me and can't really see it happening in the near future. Plus I don't think it'd really be Joss's style to do something like this, but he always does manage to surprise us. Also, I'd love to see this on screen, not in comic book form...but I'll take what I can get, I suppose. Until both of them are no longer needed to protect the world, I don't think they will ever be able to be with each other and who knows if that day will ever come? They sure do deserve it, though.
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XanderHarris
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Post by XanderHarris on Jan 2, 2009 19:17:05 GMT -5
Bringing them back to together would make absolutely no sense. Sorry to destroy the hopes of the Bangel-Fans, but on a interpersonal level (on which relationships built up, at least that's what I read ) they have less than nothing in common. Not anymore. Angel experienced so many different things (apart from Cordelia and Nina) as did Buffy. Both have become two totally different persons since Buffy's season One. I don't see, and I am quite content with this, any chance for them to get back together.
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Post by Without Passion on Jan 2, 2009 20:18:20 GMT -5
I don't think it has so much to do with "what they share in common". I think their connection is a lot deeper than that. Who knows what the future will hold for them? I think it's impossible to rule anything out, no matter what you want to happen between them. And you did in no way destroy my hopes, haha.
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Post by Rebecca on Jan 3, 2009 1:05:15 GMT -5
I think that Angel and Buffy ending together would be a nice touch on the franchise, but they would have to write it correctly. In that, I mean they would have to come together and find their "spark" again, rather than just having both separate plot lines end and Angel and Buffy call each other up.
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Post by Giant Michael on Jan 7, 2009 21:01:01 GMT -5
Not to say I'd want it to go that way, but if Buffy and Angel did end up together it'd have to be the end. The End. The very End. And probably a tragic end, all told. Their relationship was always epic, I don't think we could cut to them five, ten years down the line, with their fat grandchildren. It'd have to be a big fat blaze of glory.
Actually, if the hand we see coming out of the portal in Fray is Buffy's hand, and it's Buffy who sends all of the demons and McNasties to hell, part of me thinks Angel will go in with her, or before her.
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Post by patxshand on Jan 7, 2009 22:31:01 GMT -5
I think "Buffy" might end on a happier note. But to me, "Angel" is the classic tragedy.
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Post by Paul on Jan 8, 2009 18:27:44 GMT -5
I think the ending to the Buffy should be bittersweet, much the same as "Chosen" was. In that episode, beloved characters Spike and Anya lost their lives, so it's certainly not a "happy" ending, but there's the knowledge that they saved the world and some hope for the future. That to me was the perfect ending tonally for Buffy.
Getting Buffy and Angel get back together for the finale would be contrived and cheesy IMO. There's no need to couple everyone off, why must characters be in a romantic relationship in order to be happy? I certainly wouldn't want some Charmed-esque flashforward of Buffy and Angel growing old together. Leave the future hopeful but ambiguous. Terminator 2 once had an alternate ending where everyone lived Happily Ever After but Cameron vetoed it because it was tonally inconsistent with the rest of the movie, it's the same with Buffy. I'm not saying they shouldn't have some hint to Buffy and Angel ending up together down the line (again, "Chosen" did this well) but actually depicting said reunion in the story would be unnecessary fanservice.
Angel's ending should be bleaker than Buffy's. I loved the "life goes on, always keep fighting" message of "Not Fade Away". Since I don't view Angel: Aftermath as canon, I'm actually liking After the Fall as a definitive conclusion to the Angel series, since it has Angel fighting against his own bleak destiny (the Shanshu Prophecy) because that's the kind of hero he is.
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Post by tms on Jan 8, 2009 18:31:37 GMT -5
Since I don't view Angel: Aftermath as canon, I'm actually liking After the Fall as a definitive conclusion to the Angel series, since it has Angel fighting against his own bleak destiny (the Shanshu Prophecy) because that's the kind of hero he is. Angel: Aftermath technically would be considered canon, I believe, taking place after After the Fall, which is the official continuation of A:tS
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Post by Paul on Jan 8, 2009 18:41:58 GMT -5
Since I don't view Angel: Aftermath as canon, I'm actually liking After the Fall as a definitive conclusion to the Angel series, since it has Angel fighting against his own bleak destiny (the Shanshu Prophecy) because that's the kind of hero he is. Angel: Aftermath technically would be considered canon, I believe, taking place after After the Fall, which is the official continuation of A:tS This isn't really the place to get into this, especially since the Aftermath/canon discussion was locked (why?), but I have a few reasons why Aftermath isn't canon. First and foremost, Joss is not involved at all as far I can see. Yes, I'm sure he gave his approval for IDW to publish it, but he's not involved in the actual plotting and direction of the series. It seems to me like IDW know they have a money-making title and don't want it to end, so are continuing the AtF numbering and promoting the series as canon when it 's actually ancillary to Joss's official story. Joss obviously doesn't want to tread on IDW's toes and damage their sales, so is keeping quiet on the whole thing. That's just my opinion, I know other people disagree and view the series as canon. I'll probably still check it out, but for me, the Angel series ends with AtF.
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Post by cheryl on Jan 8, 2009 22:00:56 GMT -5
I would love to see Buffy and Angel get back together for longer than stolen moments here and there but I wouldn't want the story to end. I'd like to see them fighting shoulder to shoulder, bringing Buffy's admission to Angel in Amends full circle.
Strong is fighting! It's hard, and it's painful, and it's every day. It's what we have to do. And we can do it together.
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Post by BenTaylor3907 on Jan 8, 2009 22:33:44 GMT -5
I don't know about Buffy and Angel living happily ever after. They can never really be together. Remember what happened when they bumped uglies? Besides, Angel still has his redemption quest which won't be over for years to come. And would he really come home to a seventy year old Buffy every night? Buffy needs someone who is the next best thing, besides Spike. Like Angel and Cordelia.
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Post by pablo on Jan 9, 2009 5:01:34 GMT -5
angel was a necessary figure and relationship in buffy's life, but i think she has moved on, the story itself has moved on and the ultimate proof of it is that AtS, along with ATF, has taken a complete different turn and direction from buffy
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Post by Rebecca on Jan 10, 2009 16:18:35 GMT -5
I think "Buffy" might end on a happier note. But to me, "Angel" is the classic tragedy. I always thought that with the introduction of the Sanshu (sp?) Prophesy, Angel was supposed to end on a good note. I view it not as a tragedy but an epic story where Angel is constantly fighting inner and outer demons, until he does enough good where he is rewarded with humanity. Conversely, it seems with the direction that Joss is taking S8, no matter how much good Buffy does by fighting demons, there will always be another apocalypse. At least Angel has a light at the end of the tunnel.
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Post by snizapman6294 on Jan 10, 2009 23:26:18 GMT -5
Buffy + Angel = Frowny Face... i never liked any of Buffy's boyfriends. i've said it before and i'll say it agin... Willow + Xander = <3
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Post by patxshand on Jan 11, 2009 1:44:39 GMT -5
I always thought that with the introduction of the Sanshu (sp?) Prophesy, Angel was supposed to end on a good note. ...At least Angel has a light at the end of the tunnel. Though, with After the Fall, we've found out that the Shanshu actually means the pivotal role he'll play in the Apocalypse will be to fight on the *evil* side of it, so it turned from a light at the end to a "holy crap, gotta avoid this." So I still think tragedy applies, especially with the most revent ATF events.
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Post by michellebuffyfest on Jan 11, 2009 10:50:09 GMT -5
I always thought that with the introduction of the Sanshu (sp?) Prophesy, Angel was supposed to end on a good note. ...At least Angel has a light at the end of the tunnel. Though, with After the Fall, we've found out that the Shanshu actually means the pivotal role he'll play in the Apocalypse will be to fight on the *evil* side of it, so it turned from a light at the end to a "holy crap, gotta avoid this." So I still think tragedy applies, especially with the most revent ATF events. We don't know yet if that vision is real or not, or if that's just one side of what could happen. We always new that Angel could possibly fight on the side of evil when the Apocalypse came. That was the point of WR & H through the entire series, not just the comics. They wanted Angel on their side and tried to corrupt him the entire show. I tend to agree with Touched. Angel was dark and tragic, yes, but there was always something that kept him fighting. As much as Angel is about redemption, I think it is equally about hope whether it be in the form of making the world a better place or receiving the shanshu.
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