Post by BuffyFanOne on Mar 25, 2009 23:12:06 GMT -5
anyone seen this? we watched it at my house last night and tehre is ahuge debate about wrather it was good or "the worst movie i have seen in years".
Oh man. The more I think about the movie, the more I like it!
I think that each character was just that...a character. They were not supposed to be Rachel or Kimmy, rather they represented typical family members/roles. Everyone has a Kimmy in their family...a screw up who hogs the spotlight. Everyone has a Rachel, the goody goody that thinks they are better than everyone...
I could have done without the deer hunter wedding scene but looking back on it, I didn't even mind that. It was just one ore thing that made me feel like I was intruding into a private family event, not just the event of the wedding but the major family event of these people all coming together for the first time in a long while. It was almost like watching home movies.
The way I see it is that we were just looking in on these people's lives, there didn't need to be a back story or character exposition because none of that mattered.
my brother and my mom both hated it because they said they felt like they were watching people have intimate conversations with no beginning or ending but I think that was the point. We learned what we knew about each character by what we heard other characters saying about them. It made me feel like i was a part of the family.
Another thing I really liked was that the only things we learned about each character were what we learned from other characters conversations. There were no flashbacks or back story, and definitely no character exposition. We found out, as an audience, about the details of Kimmy past. Take the rehearsal scene for example. It was soooooo long and the speeches went on and on and on but i think that was done for a reason. The length of the scene, for me anyways, made me feel complacent and almost bored but it also made me feel like I was really there. It drew me in to the family and reminded me of every rehearsal I have ever been to. a bunch of strangers talking about people you know. It is very strange. You think you know everything about your sister and then her bride’s maid stands up and tells a story that you have never heard before…that is what it was so uncomfortable when Kimmy finally gets the microphone. It was almost painful because by that point, I felt like I was really there and she was speaking to me.
I felt so uneasy and uncomfortable when Kimmy was talking.
My favorite part, and what i took away as the theme of the movie, was when Kimmy was talking about the lies she told in rehab and she asks, if she is doomed to be unloved for the rest of her life because of the mistakes she made in her past? And she says that she can forgive herself but she can never forget what she did. I think she was talking about herself and not her family the whole time. She loves her family and they clearly love her and each other (even if they can't show it). but she does not love herself. She has to forgive herself before she can ever see the truth...that she is loved and forgiven by her family. That is why she was lying in rehab and that is why she chooses to go back at the end of the movie: To take it seriously and get better for good. I think that blow out with her mom and then seeing her mom be a douche at the wedding made Kimmy see that Rachel needs her as much as she needs Rachel.
So in conclusion...
I thought that it was a really beautiful and subtle character study. Was it the most exciting movie ever? Hell no! But I liked it for what it was. I thought it was a really great character study.
I am still a little lost about the father’s role though. Was he manic or what?!
Oh man. The more I think about the movie, the more I like it!
I think that each character was just that...a character. They were not supposed to be Rachel or Kimmy, rather they represented typical family members/roles. Everyone has a Kimmy in their family...a screw up who hogs the spotlight. Everyone has a Rachel, the goody goody that thinks they are better than everyone...
I could have done without the deer hunter wedding scene but looking back on it, I didn't even mind that. It was just one ore thing that made me feel like I was intruding into a private family event, not just the event of the wedding but the major family event of these people all coming together for the first time in a long while. It was almost like watching home movies.
The way I see it is that we were just looking in on these people's lives, there didn't need to be a back story or character exposition because none of that mattered.
my brother and my mom both hated it because they said they felt like they were watching people have intimate conversations with no beginning or ending but I think that was the point. We learned what we knew about each character by what we heard other characters saying about them. It made me feel like i was a part of the family.
Another thing I really liked was that the only things we learned about each character were what we learned from other characters conversations. There were no flashbacks or back story, and definitely no character exposition. We found out, as an audience, about the details of Kimmy past. Take the rehearsal scene for example. It was soooooo long and the speeches went on and on and on but i think that was done for a reason. The length of the scene, for me anyways, made me feel complacent and almost bored but it also made me feel like I was really there. It drew me in to the family and reminded me of every rehearsal I have ever been to. a bunch of strangers talking about people you know. It is very strange. You think you know everything about your sister and then her bride’s maid stands up and tells a story that you have never heard before…that is what it was so uncomfortable when Kimmy finally gets the microphone. It was almost painful because by that point, I felt like I was really there and she was speaking to me.
I felt so uneasy and uncomfortable when Kimmy was talking.
My favorite part, and what i took away as the theme of the movie, was when Kimmy was talking about the lies she told in rehab and she asks, if she is doomed to be unloved for the rest of her life because of the mistakes she made in her past? And she says that she can forgive herself but she can never forget what she did. I think she was talking about herself and not her family the whole time. She loves her family and they clearly love her and each other (even if they can't show it). but she does not love herself. She has to forgive herself before she can ever see the truth...that she is loved and forgiven by her family. That is why she was lying in rehab and that is why she chooses to go back at the end of the movie: To take it seriously and get better for good. I think that blow out with her mom and then seeing her mom be a douche at the wedding made Kimmy see that Rachel needs her as much as she needs Rachel.
So in conclusion...
I thought that it was a really beautiful and subtle character study. Was it the most exciting movie ever? Hell no! But I liked it for what it was. I thought it was a really great character study.
I am still a little lost about the father’s role though. Was he manic or what?!