|
|
Post by CowboyGuy on Apr 4, 2009 6:43:03 GMT -5
"Into every generation there is a chosen one, she alone will stand against the vampires, the demons and the forces of darkness...she is the slayer."Previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer: As Cordelia readied for Sunnydale High's May Queen competition, an invisible force attacked her closest friends...It's Buffy Day, and today's episode is the Season One finale... "Prophecy Girl" **Using Hulu is great, as it allows you to make the video a pop-up...so you can still view the forum if you want to while watching!**Next episode will take place on Tuesday, April 8th, 2009! Buffy Tuesdays are back on SlayAlive! Enjoy Buffy in all her Season One era glory. Watch. Discuss, here.
|
|
Saturn 5
Descendant of a Toaster Oven
[Mo0:0]
Posts: 638
|
Post by Saturn 5 on Apr 5, 2009 8:35:58 GMT -5
Prophecy Girl
The Good;
Buffy's unjustified (but very human) rant at Giles, the wonderful slow motion fight with the vamp whilst Cordy is parking with a guy. Buffy accepting her fate for the sake of her friends and family.The Buffy/Master confrontation and her final battle with him. Xander listening to country music, the white man's blues. Xander practicing on Willow and Willow consequently turning him down. Cordy and Will finding the bodies. Cordy's car trick and the girls fleeing in terror. The Buffy/Joyce scene. Love Buffy's dress.
The Bad;
The tentacles from the Hellmouth look pretty weak. Also I thought the boy who get's killed is the same one as in the last ep but it's not, Cordy seems to have a new guy every week. I always think that's lame on TV, characters get boyfriends/girlfriends one week who mean the world to them then they're forgotten about the next ep.
Best line;
Angel; I like your dress
Buffy; Big hit with everyone
Questions and observations;
Buffy dies for the first time and is bitten by a vampire for the first but by no means the last time. Giles get's knocked out for the first time (by Buffy!). Jenny's back, yay! Presumably the reason Cordy is being so nice to Will and isn't mad at her boyfriend du jour is that it's one of the signs of the apocalypse?
So if Buffy had died for real what would have happened? Presumably Angel would have defeated the Master? Or the Initiative? No offence to Kendra but I figure this would have meant that Faith would be the Slayer and consequently Dawn would be HER sister. Faith would never have gone bad and Joyce would get over her grief by adopting Faith and Dawn as her foster children. Even so, in the Buffyverse death isn't necessarily for ever...?
Note that when Buffy comes back from the dead they play the show's theme full blast. According to Joss the theme starts off like a conventional horror theme but then kicks into rock and roll thrash because it signifies that Buffy and co won't conform to the horror stereotype, they won't take it any more. So we have Buffy dying just as the prophecy says, like all the Slayers before her but she rebels and comes back. If you wanted to see a feminist subtext, she refuses to be the victim, to accept the gender role assigned to her. I don't know if Joss intended it but someone at The Bronze once pointed out that the Scoobies are actually the cliched victims you'd find in any horror film, the sexy blonde, the athletic hunk, the bitchy cheerleader, the hapless nerd, the wiseass jerk and the stuffy authority figure. But in Joss' show the victim's fight back and win.
Angel has a phone and Giles' know's his number.
Buffy actually says she feels stronger after Xander brings her back. She shouldn't of course, she should be weak as a kitten so maybe this is God's/the PTB's doing?
Now of course, at the end of this we see the characters walk off into the sunset and we have no idea if there will ever be a second season? If the series had stopped there it would have been a good ending and fondly remembered, we'd assume the Hellmouth was closed and that our characters would go on to leave fairly ordinary lives. Except for Angel, of course?
Couple of interesting lines. Xander says that if Willow is interested in Buffy she's playing it close to her chest. Cordy remarks that she doesn't know why she and Willow bother with boys and Willow agrees 'I hear you'
5/5 even with the stupid tentacles
|
|
redapple31
Common Vampire
I love you. I try not to, but I can't stop. [Mo0:8]
Posts: 73
|
Post by redapple31 on Apr 8, 2009 14:47:35 GMT -5
I just noticed when I re watched this episode that the scoobies didn't know that The Hellmouth was under the library they didn't find out until this episode. :buffyslay:
|
|
bitca
Common Vampire
[Mo0:0]
Posts: 58
|
Post by bitca on Apr 10, 2009 9:26:24 GMT -5
One thing I love about this episode, is that it is incredibly important to the whole series. At some point, we needed to explore the fact that Buffy could quit being the Slayer. It was smart to do it early on, when she was still a young 16 year old girl.
I wonder what would have happened if she had actually quit (maybe The Wish becomes a reality?). I wonder what the Watchers Council would do- would they try to kill Buffy so the next Slayer could be called?
|
|
Saturn 5
Descendant of a Toaster Oven
[Mo0:0]
Posts: 638
|
Post by Saturn 5 on Apr 11, 2009 3:48:27 GMT -5
I think ultimately a Slayer has no choice, her instincts are to slay and save and she can't walk away from her destiny
|
|
bitca
Common Vampire
[Mo0:0]
Posts: 58
|
Post by bitca on Apr 11, 2009 21:10:59 GMT -5
Oh I definitely think a Slayer has a choice.
Just look at Faith- although she was rehabilitated, you can easily see that she has a choice. In Season 8, there are slayers who choose to run away and not fight anything (such as in issue #24). Having a choice is one of the reasons why Buffy is so heroic- she chooses to give up the normal life and fight.
|
|
Saturn 5
Descendant of a Toaster Oven
[Mo0:0]
Posts: 638
|
Post by Saturn 5 on Apr 12, 2009 4:54:01 GMT -5
Oh I definitely think a Slayer has a choice. Just look at Faith- although she was rehabilitated, you can easily see that she has a choice. In Season 8, there are slayers who choose to run away and not fight anything (such as in issue #24). Having a choice is one of the reasons why Buffy is so heroic- she chooses to give up the normal life and fight. I disagree, when Buffy runs away from her calling she just happens to run into a demon conspiracy in LA. When Faith tries to walk away she ends up slaying vamp at the Bronze then saving a churchload of people. I think wherever Slayer's go the PTBs will follow them |
|
redapple31
Common Vampire
I love you. I try not to, but I can't stop. [Mo0:8]
Posts: 73
|
Post by redapple31 on Apr 12, 2009 20:06:36 GMT -5
Don't they say that in one of the episodes that a slayer goes where they are needed the most or I think they say that it's not a coincidence that Buffy moves to sunnydale where it happens to have The Hellmouth. Well something like that.  |
|
|
|
Post by Rebecca on Apr 12, 2009 21:17:58 GMT -5
Thoughts: I love the Master. He was one hell of a villain, if only for the actor's portrayal. "Whad'ya think? 5.1?" Hil-waitforit-Arious. Oh god Buffy's makeup was awful this season, lol. Aww... cute Xander crush... daww... cute Xander crush squished. OMG I just thought of something!! Being a Bander gal myself, what if Buffy in the end asks Xander to be with her, using the words he used here in this episode? Geez, SMG is heartbreaking... Haha, I love the early seasons when Joyce doesn't know, and she acts like she knows what Buffy is going through lol. Worst line: “You have to do it, I have no breath.” Ugh… cringe-worthy. Worst idea: The Hellmouth has tentacles. More cringe, ha. Question, is the Hellmouth with tentacles supposed to be the same as the Seal of Danzelthar in S7? Also, comment on the fate question of Buffy: Buffy is both driven by her slayer instinct/ptb fate and her own will. In this episode, it was fate that she die, but not that she destroy the Master. She defied fate by not letting it rule her. Funny thing, this episode clearly shows her friends (namely Xander here) facilitating her to defy fate. I love that this formula was used but significantly altered for each season finale. Makes things all tie together  |
|
N.D.U.O
Rogue Demon Hunter
The Bird Lady of Alcatraz
The Shape of Buffy's nose is weird...[Mo0:25]
Posts: 450
|
Post by N.D.U.O on Jul 6, 2009 19:56:09 GMT -5
I think we should just say that the First did something to make the Hellmouth more Seal-y and Tentacle-y
|
|
TabulaRasa
Respected Watcher
You can just call me Taby :D [Mo0:37]
Posts: 521
|
Post by TabulaRasa on Jul 7, 2009 0:55:47 GMT -5
Ok best quote in the entire ep: On the rooftop with Buffy and the Master Buffy: "You have fruit-punch mouth" Major win. Peeves- When Joyce buys Buffy the dress and Buffy says that they can't afford it yet in Halloween she was wearing a [glow=red,2,300]Dolce & Gabana[/glow] tank top ... Also, shoes much?!?! Who pays for this if they can't afford a dress? - They never explain why the master doesn't fully dust. I mean we can chalk it up to his age or the also appropriate "because they're on a hellmouth," but still. Goofs: - The skylight over the library ...  ? There has never been light from the ceiling, ever, so why all of a sudden is there a [glow=yellow,2,300]skylight[/glow]? - Buffy hair watch: When she is face down in the water it changes from being on top of her head to loose around her shoulders which we will see happen with both her and Willow throughout the next 6 seasons. Love: - Willow's lesbian foreshadowing. - Cordelia's awesome driving skills. - The fact the the library has swinging doors yet they still effectively barricade it. - Willow's reaction to the boys dead in the school. Finally someone is seriously effected by the random killings!! |
|
Saturn 5
Descendant of a Toaster Oven
[Mo0:0]
Posts: 638
|
Post by Saturn 5 on Jul 7, 2009 3:36:35 GMT -5
I think we should assume it's the same Hellmouth just some changes have gone on in the underworld in the meantime
|
|
|
|
Post by ilovewillow on Jul 16, 2009 10:09:40 GMT -5
Ok best quote in the entire ep: On the rooftop with Buffy and the Master Buffy: "You have fruit-punch mouth" Major win. Peeves- When Joyce buys Buffy the dress and Buffy says that they can't afford it yet in Halloween she was wearing a [glow=red,2,300]Dolce & Gabana[/glow] tank top ... Also, shoes much?!?! Who pays for this if they can't afford a dress? - They never explain why the master doesn't fully dust. I mean we can chalk it up to his age or the also appropriate "because they're on a hellmouth," but still. Goofs: - The skylight over the library ... ? There has never been light from the ceiling, ever, so why all of a sudden is there a [glow=yellow,2,300]skylight[/glow]? - Buffy hair watch: When she is face down in the water it changes from being on top of her head to loose around her shoulders which we will see happen with both her and Willow throughout the next 6 seasons. Love: - Willow's lesbian foreshadowing. - Cordelia's awesome driving skills. - The fact the the library has swinging doors yet they still effectively barricade it. - Willow's reaction to the boys dead in the school. Finally someone is seriously effected by the random killings!!Good observations!! Just because I haven't seen the episode for a while (I'm watching S4 again for the Twillowness) what do you mean by Willow's lesbian foreshadowing? |
|
