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Post by snizapman6294 on Apr 22, 2009 20:58:09 GMT -5
First off, i would like to apolagize for the title. So i was reading an article on Dollhouse and how it's teetering toward cancellation (an opinion i refuse to believe) and it said: when i first read this, i thought "DEAR CHRIST THIS IS HORRIBLE!!!" then i got to thinking and my future psychologist mind began to realize that it is debateable. Thoughts? Source: www.seanpaune.com/2009/04/17/dollhouse-cancellation-close/ |
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Post by Wyndam on Apr 22, 2009 21:39:03 GMT -5
Eliza wanted a good role. Joss wanted to help her out. Eliza had a contract with FOX. Joss had to make Dollhouse at FOX. So no, I don't think the phrase applies to him.
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Post by Skeptic on Apr 22, 2009 21:51:43 GMT -5
Nope. Joss brought the gig to Fox because Eliza was stuck in a contract with them, which he hated the idea of (not only because of his experience with Firefly, but because Eliza's not known for making great career choices). So he pitched it, they bought it, he made it.
He pretty much only went back into the fray for Eliza's sake, not because he was in a weird, abusive relationship with Fox.
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Post by snizapman6294 on Apr 23, 2009 7:09:24 GMT -5
Eliza wanted a good role. Joss wanted to help her out. Eliza had a contract with FOX. Joss had to make Dollhouse at FOX. So no, I don't think the phrase applies to him. oh so eliza had the contract before the show was created? |
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Post by Skeptic on Apr 23, 2009 9:20:07 GMT -5
oh so eliza had the contract before the show was created? Yes. Eliza and Joss cooked up the show over lunch one afternoon, after she'd told him she'd signed a multi-year contract with Fox. I'm sure when she said that he probably did a mental forehead-slap and the whole Firefly debacle came rushing back. I can only imagine. |
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Post by dragonweaver on Apr 23, 2009 12:43:15 GMT -5
People are jumping to an awful lot of assumptions. People are assuming FOX is going to cancel Dollhouse, they are assuming Joss only created the show for Eliza's sake and everyone keeps saying Joss probably hates or at least distrusts TPB over at FOX.
We don't know any of these speculations to be actual fact. For all we know Joss was really facinated by Eliza's idea & more than happy to start a new TV series with her and get a chance to explore new territory. Furthermore, I'd like to think FOX will carefully look at all the facts, demos, DVR/internet numbers before making any final decision on Dollhouse's future.
Joss is in the entertainment business and I'm sure he knows that some things work out, and other things don't, the point is to keep moving forward and not to let roadblocks keep you from reaching the next destination.
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Post by Skeptic on Apr 23, 2009 18:38:48 GMT -5
Well... that's pretty presumptuous. You know what they say about assuming things (or assuming that people are assuming things)... The story about Eliza having signed into a contract with Fox ( link), talking about it with Joss over lunch one day, and him being a bit grumbly with the idea, and then getting the idea for "Dollhouse" while on a potty break, and working it out with Eliza later over the table, is old news (and probably by now a Whedon legend, being scribbled about in some hallowed halls somewhere on a mountain, into leather bound books by blind, mute Whedon cultists in itchy robes). Happened many moons ago, and Joss and Eliza spoke about it in some of the video interviews I watched while the show was still in development. But for those who've never heard the story, here are the basics, straight from the horse's mouth ( link): Can you tell me how this all came about?
Through a rather time-honored tradition called "lunch." Eliza had her deal with Fox, and we went to lunch, as we sometimes do, to talk about her career and what her next step should be. Like, do I know writers, and what was the best way to protect herself, and what type of show. Eliza and I do this sometimes, because she's a friend and a great talent, and that's easily misused. She was trying to protect herself, and I was trying to get a free lunch. In the middle of lunch, I came up with the idea of this show and the title by accident.
Tell me this isn't that easy for you...that it just came to you in between bites.
I went to the bathroom and came back and said, "I figured it out." So, there it is. It took longer than between bites. It came so organically through our conversation, and what I know she is capable of, and what she was talking about and what people were expecting of her. It just kinda happened, and when it happens like that and it has a title, that's a big deal—if it has a title, you can't just turn your back on it. So, I told her, and she freaked out, and I told her I was busy with these films I am trying to set up, but Fox is interested, and Fox said let's do seven episodes instead of a pilot, and here I am.  |
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Post by antoniofjm on Apr 23, 2009 19:25:51 GMT -5
How long is her contract 1 year? or like 3? cause I can wait a year for the show during that time they can be on pre-production.
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Post by snizapman6294 on Apr 23, 2009 19:32:52 GMT -5
a contract can span over years at a time... Olivia Williams said her contract could be up to 8 seasons with Dollhouse. and every, i believe 2 years, a contract has to be re-negotiated.
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