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Post by Secret Scoobie on May 19, 2009 20:11:14 GMT -5
Okay, so I'm unsure if this is appropriate - It should be since it is just a categorical discussion like 'gender' and 'age'. It is not important and we should not be defined by it, but I thought it would be interesting to discuss and share! I've noticed there is a lot of diversity on the boards in many different things - And sexual orientation is just ONE of these. So, feel free to discuss below. If this offends anyone please PM me or a mod and have it taken down. I don't want this to cause issues as I know it is a sensitive subject to some - and please do not disclose information that may make you uncomfortable. ALSO KEEP IT PG-13! We have young members on this board and this is not meant to be anything other than an innocent conversation! NOTE: This is not a debate arena - If you are not comfortable with sexual-orientation please don't post here. This is for a friendly exchange - not an excuse to voice your opinion on 'wrong/right'. Have fun!
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Post by Just Willow on May 19, 2009 20:23:34 GMT -5
same here. all people are equal, so orientation doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
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Post by Secret Scoobie on May 19, 2009 20:31:37 GMT -5
^ That's suppose to be the point of this thread. I hoped we had come so far in this day and age that orientation would not be an 'issue'. To me it should be freely discussed as is age and gender (Things both easily visable on our 'user profiles') and it should also be up there with the conversations of "in a relationship/single/complicated" it should be freely discussed and freely accepted! So in that frame of mind, I hope this thread would give this conversation a place and allow people to have their minds-opened if they are not already! And also for everybody to feel like there is no judging in this thread. I understand if this thread may seem 'hypocritical' (E.g "We don't care if you're gay - tell me, are you gay?" LOL ) but that's not the point!!! If people feel this thread is that way then please get a mod to remove and just let me know you thought so, so I can keep the line in mind next time
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Post by Mathieu on May 19, 2009 20:44:10 GMT -5
Being gay is so wrong!!!! It's a sin!!!!
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(I'm trying to have this thread taken down)
No seriously, of course sexual orientation is no longer a big deal for most people from the younger generation. Sad though that it was so looked down upon not so long ago. I can't imagine what gay people must have gone through for decades, even centuries. You can't change who you are.
I also believe that being bisexual is probably even harder than being a hundred per cent gay because it's impossible, or maybe just very hard to make up your mind. I don't feel like I belong to the gay community at all. I just don't consider myself gay (behavior, taste, life style, etc) and I've always been attracted to girls. But seven years ago I met this guy from Michigan and it was love at first sight. I never got a chance to be with him, as in getting together with him, because things have always been complicated between us and we're very different, but since we have become best friends (and my feelings for him are pretty much gone because we've both changed a lot). Besides that secret crush I've stuck to girls all my life, (except for that one time I won't talk about!!).
See, being bisexual is tough. Too many conflicting feelings.
Was this thread meant to be "all about my life.com?".
Sorry I went on and on about my personal life.
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Post by Just Willow on May 19, 2009 20:48:35 GMT -5
hey, s'okay, Mat. this is what this thread's for!
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Post by snizapman6294 on May 19, 2009 20:50:37 GMT -5
people are who they are. they've accepted it. we, as a society, should too.
that is my standing.
so i have a quick story about my bullshit school:
so out of the roughly 350 people in our high school, maybe 10 are gay/lesbian. and a few years ago, a senior came out and wanted to speak during an assembly and was denied the opportunity to because our head of school thought it'd be inappropriate. half of the school boycotted classes for a week, were given suspensions, and he was finally allowed to speak. and because of this, our now former head of school stepped down...
so i'd say: yes, our generation (i'm 15 so roughly around there) is just more accepting than... oh let's say my parents' generation...
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Post by Mayor Of F♥ckville on May 19, 2009 20:52:04 GMT -5
I'm a full blown homo, and I digg it.
Wanna hook up?
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Post by Just Willow on May 19, 2009 20:57:24 GMT -5
I think its 50million times more acceptable for people to be ok with it nowdays than 100 years ago, but I do feel for those who live in certain places or have been put down becuase of who they are. Agreeing with Mat on the bi standing. We're all special to someone right. yeah, i also agree with Mat. i forgot to say that in my last post XD. As for my own orientation...well, i'm still in high school. i've never really dated anyone, so i honestly can't say what i am. My plan is to simply wait and see where i end up, lol.
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Post by snizapman6294 on May 19, 2009 20:57:51 GMT -5
then again, people were burned at the steak for being gay 100 years ago... wait, maybe another 200 years should be added to taht..?
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Post by Rebecca on May 19, 2009 20:58:50 GMT -5
I love men, but I wouldn't be adverse to loving a woman sexually either. I've just never had a female crush before. Talking to some lesbian friends, I came across a sentiment in the gay community I found interesting, that there is no bisexuality, just "confusion" as Mathieu said above. Personally, I take the "spectrum" stance, that everyone has their own rate of sexual attraction to either sex. And that's just taking into account a dichotomous gender paradigm. There's even a spectrum of gender from a genetic standpoint in some cases. Thought I'd share
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Post by Secret Scoobie on May 19, 2009 21:02:39 GMT -5
It's only in the past say... few centuries that 'homosexuality' started to be socially unacceptable and we are only just getting around to it being socially acknowledged and expressed (which is fantastic)
But it's not correct that homosexuals have been outside of society forever, I don't think. Well at least back in Greek history -homosexuality was the norm. Men were allowed to enjoy other men and still have a wife/family at home.
I'm heterosexual - and I'm completely pro-gay! I want same-sex couples to have the rights heterosexuals do through marriage and I want it to be even more talked about than it is now!
If I didn't find out my bestfriend through primary school was homosexual I never would've been an open about it as I am now - because it was completely invisable! School taught sex-ed but no mention of same-sex sex! And it was never talked about in Society Class or any other!! I think this is a shame and I want it to be ingrained into school, family and social life that it's not 'weird' or 'unusual' it's just the same as heterosexuality and should not be percieved any different.
I'm glad people are talking in this thread - because that's important.
And Mike. Lol. & <3
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Post by Rebecca on May 19, 2009 21:07:26 GMT -5
I too agree that it should be socially accepted and taught in school, but the former is unfortunately a precursor to the latter. People get their knickers too bunched up when you start talking about incorporating homosexuality into school curriculum.
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Post by Harmony on May 19, 2009 21:13:47 GMT -5
I'm a full blown homo, and I digg it. Wanna hook up? hottt
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Post by Rebecca on May 19, 2009 21:14:20 GMT -5
Because Gayness is LEARNED!
Idiots.
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Post by Secret Scoobie on May 19, 2009 21:14:30 GMT -5
WHAT THE HELL! Thats soooo dumb. Homosexuality is not a choice (contrary to religious beliefs). "Adverstising" bahahaha, yeah cos now I know about homosexuality I think I'll be one Poor you Raz! That would've serious effed with your mind!
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Post by Iceeh★ on May 19, 2009 21:18:00 GMT -5
I think orientation is just another part of being human. We're all the same species, so I don't see why people get all riled up about who sexes who.
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Post by Secret Scoobie on May 19, 2009 21:26:36 GMT -5
It's interesting that many bi people, and even some gay people (from my experience, I.e many friends!) still want the socially perpetuated idea of a wife and kids!
One of my friends who I would describe as the most fulfilled in their homosexual expression - still wants this too! And then some of my bi friends, want to be able to be with whoever they fall in love with (m/f) for now, but when they 'settle down' they still want the wife/kids/picket fence!
It's all a matter of culture. We can't do anything about that! I don't think bi, is a matter of 'confusion' - I'm with Bec on the 'spectrum' idea. In Psych we discover ALOT of our predispotion for certain characteristics develop on a span.
I think saying Bi people should 'pick a side' is the stupidest thing ever! They're not ''greedy' they're just attracted to 'the person' as opposed to 'the gender'!
Through highschool I thought I may be heterosexual leaning a little bit to the homosexual end (So maybe bi) but since then I've had a steady (5 year) boyfriend and am so in love with him I'm never "attracted" (the way I am to him) to anyone else!
So while I can go "Wow that girl is gorgeous" or "That guy is damn fine!" I don't feel that 'pull' towards them, and I have my soulmate and am no longer 'looking'. So as to my orientation I'm only heterosexual because I'm with a male! I didn't have the opportunity to explore - so I'm still a 'don't know', but all don't care! I'm happy here.
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Post by VampSlayer on May 19, 2009 21:29:05 GMT -5
*Straight, and proud*
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Post by Rebecca on May 19, 2009 21:34:59 GMT -5
Through highschool I thought I may be heterosexual leaning a little bit to the homosexual end (So maybe bi) but since then I've had a steady (5 year) boyfriend and am so in love with him I'm never "attracted" (the way I am to him) to anyone else! So while I can go "Wow that girl is gorgeous" or "That guy is damn fine!" I don't feel that 'pull' towards them, and I have my soulmate and am no longer 'looking'. So as to my orientation I'm only heterosexual because I'm with a male! I didn't have the opportunity to explore - so I'm still a 'don't know', but all don't care! I'm happy here. You are monosexual. LOL
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Post by wenxina on May 19, 2009 21:51:25 GMT -5
That just sounds diseased.
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