Becki
Common Vampire
[Mo0:8]
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Post by Becki on Jul 19, 2009 9:44:59 GMT -5
Paul pretty much summed up my hatred for Holtz in a nutshell. So I'll just say, Ditto to his post.
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Post by lightandmagic on Jul 20, 2009 1:47:35 GMT -5
To El D:
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I may very well be, as I'm feeling as if I am) but didn't Connor punch a hole through dimensions for the sole sake of finding Angel to kill him? I mean he arrives in the universe and immediately goes to attack him. I always got the distinct impression that he came to this world for the sole sake of killing Angel. Which I think he would only do if the message of his biological father being evil was prominent in his mind.
I still don't believe Holtz cared for Connor. I think he raised him for the sole sake of setting him loose on Angel, knowing full well that Angel would never kill him due to the fact that is his son, and knowing that Connor would inevitably kill Angel. I think if he truly cared for him, he wouldn't have abandoned him consistently while in Quor'Toth for the sole sake of teaching him how to track, and far more importantly he wouldn't have used him as a little pawn in his game against Angel by killing himself and abandoning him alone in a friendless world.
I understand why Holtz despises Angel. But I think the whole point of Holtz is to really show how obsession and vengeance is destructive. His use of an innocent child just to spite an enemy makes him just as much of a monster as Angelus was to him.
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