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Post by wenxina on Jan 5, 2010 0:27:00 GMT -5
I was going through "TLWH" again, and decided to keep a tally of all the squads and their locations. Surprisingly, at different points in the season thus far, Joss has managed to fill up eight (possibly nine) of the ten squads mentioned.
1. Scotland - Headed by Buffy and Xander (established in #1)
2. St. Petersburg - Headed by Giles (established in #2)
3. Southern Italy - Headed by Andrew (established in #1)
4. Barcelona - Mentioned in passing in #1
5. New York City - Headed by Vi (established in #16)
6. Chicago - Headed by Rona (shown in #5; established in #11)
7. Tokyo - Headed by Aiko (presumably) until her death. Currently headed by Satsu (established in #13)
8. Cleveland - Headed by Robin Wood (established in #6)
9. San Francisco - Headed by Kennedy (presumably). The Golden Gate Bridge is visible in the background in the Willow one-shot: "Goddesses and Monsters".
So that leaves just one more squad that is yet unidentified.
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Post by CourtneyDax on Jan 5, 2010 1:31:29 GMT -5
That's interesting. Great list. I will be giving you Karmas soon for this!
But now that Giles and Faith have gone on their own mission, who is actually leading in St. Petersburg now?
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Post by wenxina on Jan 5, 2010 1:47:11 GMT -5
Presumably, all squads have a second-in-command (like Xander)... but who knows. I'm sure there were other Watchers-in-training besides Andrew. Been wondering which squads are with Buffy in Tibet at the moment. Andrew and the remnants of his Italy squad are there, and presumably Satsu brought her squad along too. But that's all that's accounted for. The rest are probably just lying low.
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Post by Nina on Jan 5, 2010 9:02:03 GMT -5
There are still the three slayers we saw in ATF. Not even sure if they are part of Buffy's group since all we got was an assumption by Angel. And it's a really small group, plus another group in the USA would be a waste especially since there is already one in California and Angel is already in LA. It would make more sense if they were a part of the San Fransico group.
But still, could be...
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Post by wenxina on Jan 5, 2010 9:24:00 GMT -5
Good catch on that one. I'm inclined to believe that they were part of the San Francisco squad. Heck, the San Fran squad could've relocated to better digs; San Fran could just have been a temporary base. Personally, I'm hoping for another squad in an international location. Asia seems to be largely neglected; a base in Hong Kong (headed by Chao-Ahn, since she speaks Cantonese), or somewhere in India would be nifty. Or in the Middle-East... Cairo?  Thing is, I don't think Joss and Co. ever really planned out where all the squads were located. It's not a detail he would work out unless he needed to. And if that's the case, I hope he realizes that he's running out of bases. |
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Post by sire on Jan 5, 2010 10:17:52 GMT -5
cool thread! Karma for you. I think season 8 would really benefit from a small spin off series similar to Spike;after the fall. Something about a random slayer in some squad in an interesting place like cario  would be really cool imo |
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Jan 5, 2010 10:56:01 GMT -5
Hopefully, Joss won't accidentally go over his allotted 10 squads and require another fanwank.  Was there specific mention made of a squad in Barcelona? I know it was mentioned Andrew was supposed to take some of his Italy girls and go investigate there. I'm not sure it's clear if the Spanish vamp nest was being dealt with by a Spanish squad but was too much for them, of if it was just uncovered by a group of roving Slayers and they needed to call in reinforcements. 500 Slayers in Buffy's organization, split up into 10 squads averages 50 girls per squad, but the Scotland squad is 100 girls. I wonder if it counts as two? |
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Post by Midnight Butterfly on Jan 5, 2010 11:46:54 GMT -5
Hopefully, Joss won't accidentally go over his allotted 10 squads and require another fanwank. Was there specific mention made of a squad in Barcelona? I know it was mentioned Andrew was supposed to take some of his Italy girls and go investigate there. I'm not sure it's clear if the Spanish vamp nest was being dealt with by a Spanish squad but was too much for them, of if it was just uncovered by a group of roving Slayers and they needed to call in reinforcements. 500 Slayers in Buffy's organization, split up into 10 squads averages 50 girls per squad, but the Scotland squad is 100 girls. I wonder if it counts as two? I hope it doesn't count as two. Maybe there are 100 in Scotland because thats were it all began, if you know what I mean. Then more and more slayers came and they decided to set up different squads. |
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Jan 5, 2010 12:50:07 GMT -5
I hope it doesn't count as two. Maybe there are 100 in Scotland because thats were it all began, if you know what I mean. Then more and more slayers came and they decided to set up different squads. It makes sense that the Boss Lady would have a bigger squad of her own. They may be the elite squad. I used to think the Scotland girls were actually two squads... one directly under Buffy and one under Xander. This was based on the battle at the end of ToYL where the Slayers under Rowena show up in the forest and Dawn says to Xander, "That's your squad, Xan." Just seemed like an odd thing to say if there was only one squad it could have been. |
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Post by wenxina on Jan 5, 2010 13:34:46 GMT -5
Hopefully, Joss won't accidentally go over his allotted 10 squads and require another fanwank. Was there specific mention made of a squad in Barcelona? I know it was mentioned Andrew was supposed to take some of his Italy girls and go investigate there. I'm not sure it's clear if the Spanish vamp nest was being dealt with by a Spanish squad but was too much for them, of if it was just uncovered by a group of roving Slayers and they needed to call in reinforcements. Renee specifically refers to the squad as the "Barcelona squad". I don't think that this was a roving squad, since a squad with no fixed base wouldn't be named after a city. Pretty safe to say that this is one of the ten squads mentioned. I'm thinking of popping a friendly reminder to Allie in his next Q&A, in the guise of a question... just so that he's keeping track of the squads. I used to think the Scotland girls were actually two squads... one directly under Buffy and one under Xander. This was based on the battle at the end of ToYL where the Slayers under Rowena show up in the forest and Dawn says to Xander, "That's your squad, Xan." Just seemed like an odd thing to say if there was only one squad it could have been. I don't see why it would be weird for Dawn to say it, even if there was only one squad. Xander pretty much runs the show there. He's in-charge of just about everything, including security, recon, communications, etc. Buffy is the figurehead and general of her army, but the squad reports as much to Xander as it does to her. Thus, the Scotland squad is Xander's squad. But hey, if the Fraypocalypse comes to pass, well, keeping track of the squads will be moot, since well, they won't exist anymore. |
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Post by The Girl In Question on Jan 5, 2010 16:38:16 GMT -5
I guess they feel South America, Africa, and Australia don't need slayer squads for some reason o.0 Also I think there should be a New Orleans base. The city is famous for its voodoo, werewolves, and vampire balls (among other things ). |
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Post by Midnight Butterfly on Jan 5, 2010 16:44:02 GMT -5
hahahaa Ireland should so have a squad. Would be so cool. |
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Post by The Girl In Question on Jan 5, 2010 16:59:50 GMT -5
hahahaa Ireland should so have a squad. Would be so cool. Lol. Looking at what I said now, it seems dirty. By vampire balls I meant the fancy shmancy annual vampire party. ;D |
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Post by wenxina on Jan 5, 2010 18:28:33 GMT -5
I guess they feel South America, Africa, and Australia don't need slayer squads for some reason o.0 Or they haven't expanded that far yet. S8 started roughly a year and a half after "Chosen". I know the chronology issue is going to bug some people, but that's just the way it is. A year and a half isn't really that much time to establish squads everywhere. They probably just went where the Watchers' Council previously had bases, contacts, resources, etc and started there. Which makes England a viable guess... hmmm... |
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Post by Paul on Jan 5, 2010 18:58:44 GMT -5
I don't think Giles was the official leader of the St. Petersburg squad. We saw in "The Chain" that he travelled round the different squads giving lectures about Slayer history, I don't think he had any long-term affiliation to one specific group. The fact that he shows up later in Cleveland with a mission for Faith supports this.
Let's say Chao-Ahnn is the St. Petersburg squad leader. She's the only other significant character from the show who's not doing anything. Plus it's funny to think of her giving orders in Chinese to lots of confused Russian girls. ;D
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Post by wenxina on Jan 5, 2010 19:29:18 GMT -5
Giles may very well be the wandering mentor. Thing is, the events of "The Chain" happened before "TLWH", meaning that he could have been the wandering mentor for a bit, and then settled down in St. Petersburg for a bit, before deciding to do something about the Gigi threat. Why I say that the events of "The Chain" occur before "TLWH" is because Simone is still in an urban environment then. Presumably Chicago, since apparently Rona shipped her off to Andrew later. Simone is already in Southern Italy by the time of the events of "TLWH". However, that said, the fact that he just sets off into the sunset with Faith does support the fact that he may still be a wanderer. Or that he just took an extended leave of absence. Oh Chao-Ahn... silly Chinese girl... |
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Jan 5, 2010 21:29:14 GMT -5
Shannon and Caridad are also unaccounted for, among the original Sunnydale Slayers whose names we knew, and who survived.
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Post by buffystar on Jan 5, 2010 21:29:39 GMT -5
Weren't Kennedy and Willow based in Sao Paulo, Brazil but spent most of their time in Rio? And Xander had a squad in South Africa right? According to Andrew in "Damage". Seems odd they don't have one in London, that they put Robin over a Hellmouth instead of a more qualified person/Slayer, and they don't have squads in other more popular countries (Mexico, China, Australia, etc.)
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Post by Paul on Jan 5, 2010 21:36:43 GMT -5
Weren't Kennedy and Willow based in Sao Paulo, Brazil but spent most of their time in Rio? And Xander had a squad in South Africa right? According to Andrew in "Damage". Seems odd they don't have one in London and that they put Robin over a Hellmouth instead of a more qualified person/Slayer. Everything Andrew says in Angel season 5 is suspect. Except for the fact that Xander bought him a fish, because that's cute and I want it to be true.  And Cleveland is a "second rate" Hellmouth, I'm sure Robin (who's pretty badass) and his Slayers can handle it. |
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Post by wenxina on Jan 5, 2010 21:44:50 GMT -5
Weren't Kennedy and Willow based in Sao Paulo, Brazil but spent most of their time in Rio? And Xander had a squad in South Africa right? According to Andrew in "Damage". Seems odd they don't have one in London and that they put Robin over a Hellmouth instead of a more qualified person/Slayer. Everything Andrew says in Angel season 5 is suspect. One should also take into account the factor of transition. Just because the squads are based where they are now doesn't mean that they weren't temporarily stationed elsewhere. |
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