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Post by henzINNIT on Jan 31, 2010 17:16:56 GMT -5
It's all over now *holds in the tears*
13 hours a piece with some gems and duds in both; but episode for episode, which season is strongest?
Ghost vs. Vows
The Target vs. Instinct
Stage Fright vs. Belle Chose
Grey Hour vs. Belonging
True Believer vs. The Public Eye
Man on The Street vs. The Left Hand
Echoes vs. Meet Jane Doe
Needs vs. A Love Supreme
A Spy in the House of Love vs. Stop Loss
Haunted vs. The Attic
Briar Rose vs. Getting Closer
Omega vs. The Hollow Men
Epitaph One vs. Epitaph Two
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Post by Beaumonde on Jan 31, 2010 17:38:08 GMT -5
Season 2. I'm gonna be re-watching Season 1 some time this week so I'll have a clearer view on my opinions of those episodes vs. Season 2 eps later. But from memory right now this is what I think:
Ghost vs. Vows
The Target vs. Instinct
Stage Fright vs. Belle Chose
Grey Hour vs. Belonging
True Believer vs. The Public Eye
Man on The Street vs. The Left Hand (Tough one. I'm probably choosing The Left Hand for the Topher/Bennett scenes alone.)
Echoes vs. Meet Jane Doe
Needs vs. A Love Supreme
A Spy in the House of Love vs. Stop Loss
Haunted vs. The Attic
Briar Rose vs. Getting Closer
Omega vs. The Hollow Men
Epitaph One vs. Epitaph Two
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Post by VampSlayer on Jan 31, 2010 18:29:51 GMT -5
Ghost vs. VowsThe Target vs. InstinctStage Fright vs. Belle ChoseGrey Hour vs. BelongingTrue Believer vs. The Public EyeMan on The Street vs. The Left Hand (Though I love Man on The Street, too! Was tough!) Echoes vs. Meet Jane DoeNeeds vs. A Love SupremeA Spy in the House of Love vs. Stop Loss Haunted vs. The AtticBriar Rose vs. Getting CloserOmega vs. The Hollow Men (The Hollow Men was okay, but overall, I enjoyed Omega more.) Epitaph One vs. Epitaph Two (Both are so amazing, but Two blows One away, even if Amy Acker is missing for Two. ) So, Season Two blows Season One away.
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Post by henzINNIT on Jan 31, 2010 18:34:31 GMT -5
Ghost vs. Vows [Both pretty weak here]
The Target vs. Instinct
Stage Fright vs. Belle Chose
Grey Hour vs. Belonging
True Believer vs. The Public Eye
Man on The Street vs. The Left Hand
Echoes vs. Meet Jane Doe
Needs vs. A Love Supreme
A Spy in the House of Love vs. Stop Loss
Haunted vs. The Attic
Briar Rose vs. Getting Closer
Omega vs. The Hollow Men
Epitaph One vs. Epitaph Two
Season 2 for me too, although fairly close at 5/8.
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Post by TC on Jan 31, 2010 18:48:15 GMT -5
Ghost vs. Vows
The Target vs. Instinct
Stage Fright vs. Belle Chose
Grey Hour vs. Belonging
True Believer vs. The Public Eye
Man on The Street vs. The Left Hand
Echoes vs. Meet Jane Doe
Needs vs. A Love Supreme
A Spy in the House of Love vs. Stop Loss
Haunted vs. The Attic
Briar Rose vs. Getting Closer
Omega vs. The Hollow Men
Epitaph One vs. Epitaph Two - There's absolutely no way I could possibly choose between these two.
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Post by Hellbound Hyperion on Jan 31, 2010 18:50:42 GMT -5
Episode-wise, S1 has a slight advantage. But I felt that Season Two was a much stronger cohesive unit, carrying out a variety of storylines with some degree of success vs. Season One dropping everything on us in the last six episodes. As for the Epitaphs, it's impossible to truly pick one over the other, since they rely on each other to tell a complete story of the post-2009 story, but Epitaph One definitely felt more like a post-apocalyptic "movie" of sorts, in which we could follow the main characters of the story but still flashback to our regulars and show how things got so bad so fast. So they both have strengths and weaknesses, but together they made a pretty good show. Here are my votes for episodes: Ghost vs. VowsThe Target vs. Instinct Stage Fright vs. Belle ChoseGrey Hour vs. BelongingTrue Believer vs. The Public EyeMan on The Street vs. The Left Hand Echoes vs. Meet Jane DoeNeeds vs. A Love Supreme A Spy in the House of Love vs. Stop Loss Haunted vs. The AtticBriar Rose vs. Getting Closer Omega vs. The Hollow Men Epitaph One vs. Epitaph Two
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Post by Xander-Shaped Friend on Jan 31, 2010 19:19:30 GMT -5
Uh, the first few posts are pretty much the same and some it up for me. It's just hard for me to choose between Man on the Street and The Left Hand and Needs and A Love Supreme. Mostly because I can't remember the Season Two episodes as clearly except that I loved them. I am a vocal Vows fan and would choose Epitaph Two for clarification.
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Post by hitnrun017 on Jan 31, 2010 19:46:09 GMT -5
Definitely Season 2 for me. Season 1 is still great, with more than a few great episodes, but there wasn't really any unity between them. It was something different every week besides Briar Rose and Omega. Things were brought up and then ignored for episodes. A lot of it was just a bunch of Echo, not much from the supporting characters. With Season 2 everything just clicked. The characters and mythology exploded, and they flowed seamlessly through one another.
Ghost vs. Vows
The Target vs. Instinct
Stage Fright vs. Belle Chose
Grey Hour vs. Belonging
True Believer vs. The Public Eye
Man on the Street vs. The Left Hand (This was tough, but Man on the Street is a Juggernaut)
Echoes vs. Meet Jane Doe
Needs vs. A Love Supreme
A Spy in the House of Love vs. Stop Loss
Haunted vs. The Attic
Briar Rose vs. Getting Closer
Omega vs. The Hollow Men (Both of these are a complete mess, but Omega makes my head explode less)
Epitaph One vs. Epitaph Two
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Post by Joe on Jan 31, 2010 20:49:20 GMT -5
Definitely Season 2
Ghost vs. Vows
The Target vs. Instinct
Stage Fright vs. Belle Chose
Grey Hour vs. Belonging
True Believer vs. The Public Eye
Man on The Street vs. The Left Hand
Echoes vs. Meet Jane Doe
Needs vs. A Love Supreme
A Spy in the House of Love vs. Stop Loss
Haunted vs. The Attic
Briar Rose vs. Getting Closer
Omega vs. The Hollow Men
Epitaph One vs. Epitaph Two
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Post by buffyfan21 on Jan 31, 2010 21:59:04 GMT -5
I think I am going to have to give the series a full rewatch before I am able to vote on this properly. For now I'll just say that I think both seasons had their shinning moments, but I think S2 was the stronger season overall.
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Post by drusillacakes on Feb 1, 2010 0:45:34 GMT -5
I'm voting by gut-reaction, but overall, I would agree that Season 2 was better than 1, while S1 had a few choice episodes that I deem my favorite.
Ghost vs. Vows
The Target vs. Instinct
Stage Fright vs. Belle Chose
Grey Hour vs. Belonging-- While I choose Belonging over Grey Hour, I need to voice my Taffy love ;D.
True Believer vs. The Public Eye
Man on The Street vs. The Left Hand
Echoes vs. Meet Jane Doe
Needs vs. A Love Supreme
A Spy in the House of Love vs. Stop Loss
Haunted vs. The Attic
Briar Rose vs. Getting Closer
Omega vs. The Hollow Men
Epitaph One vs. Epitaph Two
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Post by darthrosenberg9 on Feb 1, 2010 17:02:46 GMT -5
Ghost vs. Vows
The Target vs. Instinct
Stage Fright vs. Belle Chose
Grey Hour vs. Belonging
True Believer vs. The Public Eye
Man on The Street vs. The Left Hand
Echoes vs. Meet Jane Doe
Needs vs. A Love Supreme
A Spy in the House of Love vs. Stop Loss
Haunted vs. The Attic
Briar Rose vs. Getting Closer
Omega vs. The Hollow Men
Epitaph One vs. Epitaph Two
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Post by lightandmagic on Feb 3, 2010 0:54:07 GMT -5
Ghost vs. Vows (Both bad episodes, but the Topher/Saunders scenes make Vows better, not by a whole lot as the rest of the episode is pretty awful.)
The Target vs. Instinct ("Mommy's home." Really Dollhouse? You're making this defence of you quite difficult.)
Stage Fright vs. Belle Chose (Can't beat Victor's dancing!)
Grey Hour vs. Belonging (Belonging is by and far one of the best episodes of the series. Grey Hour is mostly forgettable.)
True Believer vs. The Public Eye ("Lady you just woke up 30 people, and they all think you're a bitch."
Man on The Street vs. The Left Hand (Like them both a lot, but The Left Hand was a bit too convoluted near the end.)
Echoes vs. Meet Jane Doe (The episode that made me finally like Echo. Finally.)
Needs vs. A Love Supreme (Alpha seemed kinda lame in A Love Supreme, and then he just walked out. Reminded me of Omega which angered me)
A Spy in the House of Love vs. Stop Loss (Like them both a lot, but I think I just like the main plot of A Spy in the House of Love more.)
Haunted vs. The Attic (No contest. I don't think anyone is gonna vote for dead horse lady.)
Briar Rose vs. Getting Closer (Getting Closer started off slow. A bit too slow. But the last 15 minutes of the episode was just full of amazing (and, well, incredibly sad) things.)
Omega vs. The Hollow Men (I think Omega would get my vote as one of the worst episodes of the series. Full of terrible dialogue, even worse editing and one of the lamest conclusions ever.)
Epitaph One vs. Epitaph Two (I loved them both. A lot. Epitaph Two almost one for the sole sake of killing Paul [or mostly killing] as I hated that man character being a lot. But Epitaph One has Remains. And I think a tiny bit of a better conclusion. So it barely edged over Epitaph Two.)
Overall: Season 1: Seven, Season Two: Eight
It looks close. But any time Season 1 gained the vote it was a close match. Pretty much any time a Season 2 episode was better, it was by a lot. Season 2 was a massive improvement over Season 1. I think I would rank Season 2 on the higher end of my complete Whedonverse season scale, whereas Season 1 would be probably near the bottom.
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Post by The Girl In Question on Feb 3, 2010 1:24:05 GMT -5
Ghost vs. Vows
The Target vs. Instinct
Stage Fright vs. Belle Chose
Grey Hour vs. Belonging
True Believer vs. The Public Eye
Man on The Street vs. The Left Hand
Echoes vs. Meet Jane Doe
Needs vs. A Love Supreme
A Spy in the House of Love vs. Stop Loss
Haunted vs. The Attic
Briar Rose vs. Getting Closer
Omega vs. The Hollow Men
Epitaph One vs. Epitaph Two
Yep that's pretty much it. Some of those were tough choices, others were super easy.
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Post by theend on Feb 6, 2010 14:46:55 GMT -5
Ghost vs. Vows
The Target vs. Instinct I like them both!
Stage Fright vs. Belle Chose
Grey Hour vs. Belonging
True Believer vs. The Public Eye
Man on The Street vs. The Left Hand
Echoes vs. Meet Jane Doe
Needs vs. A Love Supreme
A Spy in the House of Love vs. Stop Loss
Haunted vs. The Attic
Briar Rose vs. Getting Closer
Omega vs. The Hollow Men
Epitaph One vs. Epitaph Two
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Post by Eric on Feb 7, 2010 4:59:43 GMT -5
Ghost vs. Vows
The Target vs. Instinct
Stage Fright vs. Belle Chose
Grey Hour vs. Belonging
True Believer vs. The Public Eye
Man on The Street vs. The Left Hand
Echoes vs. Meet Jane Doe
Needs vs. A Love Supreme
A Spy in the House of Love vs. Stop Loss
Haunted vs. The Attic
Briar Rose vs. Getting Closer
Omega vs. The Hollow Men
Epitaph One vs. Epitaph Two (I can't choose!)
Season two wins for me.
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Post by wytchcroft on Feb 11, 2010 21:47:23 GMT -5
Ghost vs. Vows
The Target vs. Instinct
Stage Fright vs. Belle Chose
Grey Hour vs. Belonging
True Believer vs. The Public Eye
Man on The Street vs. The Left Hand not an easy choice!
Echoes vs. Meet Jane Doe
Needs vs. A Love Supreme
A Spy in the House of Love vs. Stop Loss
Haunted vs. The Attic
Briar Rose vs. Getting Closer
Omega vs. The Hollow Men
Epitaph One vs. Epitaph Two
ouch! some of that was hard slugging! i love the second half of S1 on an episodic level - but the adrenalin and acting in the S2 equivalents means i tend to wolf down more episodes at a time when rewatching.
edit: gotta say, but damn, i really really loved Dollhouse.
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