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Post by Faith5byFive on Feb 18, 2010 16:41:04 GMT -5
Curious to find out , but what would you of liked to have happened in season 7?
My idea of season 7 would of been keep Selfless and Lessons and maybe a few others but then what happens is. When Buffy & Co find out about The First and thier plans they attempt to stop it as usual but when that fails they group together all their friends to help stop it.
So Buffy gets the inniative to help and Riley comes back (even though i can't stand Riley at all) and he gets killed.
OZ comes back after Willow tries to contact him.
Faith comes back as usual after Angel and the gang get her out of prison.
Angel/Wes/Connor come over from LA and he gives Buffy the amulet she tells Angel to go back to LA but the three stay and help fight.
Then the people who die in the final battle are....
.Prinicipal Wood
.Riley
.Oz
.Connor
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Post by Eric on Feb 18, 2010 16:44:41 GMT -5
I wish Wood and Kennedy died.
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Post by Paul on Feb 18, 2010 16:49:58 GMT -5
I wish Wood and Kennedy died. What would have been the point of that? Kennedy and Wood represent hope for the future for Willow and Faith. They're important to "Chosen"'s optimistic ending, whether fans like them or not. |
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Post by jellymoff on Feb 18, 2010 17:08:44 GMT -5
I wish Wood and Kennedy died. Why is everyone trying to kill Wood? I like him. Plus, I have a theory about Joss and horror cliches. He has always said that the idea of Buffy came from the helpless young girl in every horror movie that needs to the saved. Buffy is clearly the opposite of that. Another horror cliche is that the Black guy always dies first. If my theory is correct, this ensures Wood's saftey. |
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Post by Eric on Feb 18, 2010 17:28:56 GMT -5
I wish Wood and Kennedy died. What would have been the point of that? Kennedy and Wood represent hope for the future for Willow and Faith. They're important to "Chosen"'s optimistic ending, whether fans like them or not. I would've found the ending much happier if these two died. They may represent a future for the other two characters, but not a future I'd want for them. Wood and Kennedy were rude, arrogant and unlikable. |
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Post by -'Goldilocks on Feb 18, 2010 17:32:02 GMT -5
I like Wood and Kennedy, yes at times she is annoying but I like her. And Oz dying?  Noo. I like him too  I wasnt to bothered when Amanda died though. She irritated me. |
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Post by Eric on Feb 18, 2010 17:34:36 GMT -5
I like Wood and Kennedy, yes at times she is annoying but I like her. And Oz dying? Noo. I like him too I wasnt to bothered when Amanda died though. She irritated me. Amanda was adorable. ): |
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Post by Paul on Feb 18, 2010 17:42:28 GMT -5
What would have been the point of that? Kennedy and Wood represent hope for the future for Willow and Faith. They're important to "Chosen"'s optimistic ending, whether fans like them or not. I would've found the ending much happier if these two died. They may represent a future for the other two characters, but not a future I'd want for them. Wood and Kennedy were rude, arrogant and unlikable. Kennedy and Wood surviving "Chosen" doesn't mean they have to end up with Willow/Faith forever. Kennedy represents Willow getting over Tara and moving on with her life. Wood represents Faith being respected as a person by a man, and being able to have a healthy relationship. Just because you're not a fan of those specific ships doesn't mean it's not a satisfying conclusion to those character arcs. Besides, this isn't American Idol or some shit, where you can phone in to vote out the people you don't like. It's not a popularity contest. |
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Post by wenxina on Feb 18, 2010 17:46:47 GMT -5
Hypothetical question: Why is it that whenever an assertive character that is NOT one of the original Scoobs steps forward, they're immediately branded "arrogant", "rude", "a bitca", "a know-it-all who doesn't know their place", etc? And whenever a meek character surfaces, people immediately think that they're the cat's pajamas?
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Post by Joe on Feb 18, 2010 17:51:42 GMT -5
Kennedy wasn't liked only because she's Tara's replacement. People say she's unlikeable but many of her traits relate her to Cordelia in Anya... almost.
Wood wasn't liked because he got in the way of Buffy and Spike.
Fan hatred is very predictable sometimes.. lol
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Post by Eric on Feb 18, 2010 17:53:06 GMT -5
I would've found the ending much happier if these two died. They may represent a future for the other two characters, but not a future I'd want for them. Wood and Kennedy were rude, arrogant and unlikable. Kennedy and Wood surviving "Chosen" doesn't mean they have to end up with Willow/Faith forever. Kennedy represents Willow getting over Tara and moving on with her life. Wood represents Faith being respected as a person by a man, and being able to have a healthy relationship. Just because you're not a fan of those specific ships doesn't mean it's not a satisfying conclusion to those character arcs. Besides, this isn't American Idol or some shit, where you can phone in to vote out the people you don't like. It's not a popularity contest. Calm the hell down. All I said was that I didn't like them and jokingly said I wish they died. And beside, this thread was created for people to voice the things they wish were different, so your American Idol comment doesn't really make sense. Kennedy wasn't liked only because she's Tara's replacement. People say she's unlikeable but many of her traits relate her to Cordelia in Anya... almost. Wood wasn't liked because he got in the way of Buffy and Spike. Fan hatred is very predictable sometimes.. lol While some people may hate them for those reasons, they're not necessarily the reasons I hate them. |
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Post by wytchcroft on Feb 18, 2010 17:59:44 GMT -5
ah c'mon, Robin Wood rocks - and he was popular enough that they had cast him for the pending Faith spin-off from S7 and used him again in S8.
D.B. Woodside gives gold in S7.
As for my version of S7, bring Faith in earlier and pair her with Giles attempting (but mostly failing) to protect potentials and watchers in cut-aways from the main show till Dirty Girls.
Lose some of the speeches and get out the house more. That's about all.
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Post by henzINNIT on Feb 18, 2010 18:01:24 GMT -5
I was thinking about it a few weeks ago, re-ordering what we have. Basically I'd have pushed a few more of the less arc-centric stories forward so that when the First unearths the Ubervamp and gets its first taste of blood, shit really hits the fan and hard. Buffy beats it down and gives her speech and immediately after, Caleb strolls into town. The last 1/3 would be a really apocalyptic ride.
I'd have liked to see Oz again. It would have been nice for him to appear for some plutonic comfort for Willow after Tara's death. I never minded Kennedy though.
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Post by Eric on Feb 18, 2010 18:02:37 GMT -5
ah c'mon, Robin Wood rocks - and he was popular enough that they had cast him for the pending Faith spin-off from S7 and used him again in S8. D.B. Woodside gives gold in S7. His appearance in S8 was just a cameo and I have nothing against D.B.. I genuinely dislike Principal Wood. And I never heard anything about him being in the Faith spin-off, so that's news to me. |
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Post by PJ on Feb 18, 2010 18:07:03 GMT -5
agreed. i think willow should have gotten to see Oz in s7 maybe just for a minute before willow's visit to tara's grave, or maybe for the rest of the season. at least we have Oz in s8.  |
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Post by wytchcroft on Feb 18, 2010 18:10:32 GMT -5
ah c'mon, Robin Wood rocks - and he was popular enough that they had cast him for the pending Faith spin-off from S7 and used him again in S8. D.B. Woodside gives gold in S7. His appearance in S8 was just a cameo and I have nothing against D.B.. I genuinely dislike Principal Wood. And I never heard anything about him being in the Faith spin-off, so that's news to me. Of course, sorry - you are entitled to your likes and dislikes. But Wood WAS pretty popular with the fans back in the day unless my memory is... unless i'm a doll! And yeah the spin off originally was going to feature Faith, Spike (as a ghost) and Wood. Produced by Tim Minear and one planned episode was reused for Buffy 8's No Future for You. |
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Post by Eric on Feb 18, 2010 18:13:23 GMT -5
His appearance in S8 was just a cameo and I have nothing against D.B.. I genuinely dislike Principal Wood. And I never heard anything about him being in the Faith spin-off, so that's news to me. Of course, sorry - you are entitled to your likes and dislikes. But Wood WAS pretty popular with the fans back in the day unless my memory is... unless i'm a doll! There is no need for an apology. I'm just saying, I'm not one of those fans who liked Principal Wood. |
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Post by Paul on Feb 18, 2010 18:21:30 GMT -5
Kennedy and Wood surviving "Chosen" doesn't mean they have to end up with Willow/Faith forever. Kennedy represents Willow getting over Tara and moving on with her life. Wood represents Faith being respected as a person by a man, and being able to have a healthy relationship. Just because you're not a fan of those specific ships doesn't mean it's not a satisfying conclusion to those character arcs. Besides, this isn't American Idol or some shit, where you can phone in to vote out the people you don't like. It's not a popularity contest. Calm the hell down. All I said was that I didn't like them and jokingly said I wish they died. And beside, this thread was created for people to voice the things they wish were different, so your American Idol comment doesn't really make sense. I'm totally calm, I just disagree with you and am explaining why. Sorry if I sounded more aggressive than I intended. As for the American Idol comment... you can identify problems in a story and suggest ways it could have been written better, without just killing the people you don't like. With season seven, I would try to tighten up the writing in general so that there are less obvious plot holes. I might also change or get rid of the "Spike sleeper agent" sub-plot, which I don't think served much of a purpose. I think Anya deserved a bit more development; we get great set-up for an arc in "Selfless", but it gets neglected and she spends the rest of the season in the background. Finally, I think it would have been really powerful if Amber Benson had played the First, even if it was only for "Conversations". That was a missed opportunity, and I have a lot of disrespect for Amber Benson's patronising refusal to do it. The season is great, I think it just needs a wee polish. |
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Post by wytchcroft on Feb 18, 2010 18:42:15 GMT -5
I think Anya deserved a bit more development; we get great set-up for an arc in "Selfless", but it gets neglected and she spends the rest of the season in the background. Finally, I think it would have been really powerful if Amber Benson had played the First, even if it was only for "Conversations". That was a missed opportunity, and I have a lot of disrespect for Amber Benson's patronising refusal to do it. The season is great, I think it just needs a wee polish. Interesting, i agree with you about Anya although there was more of an arc than just Selfless (Beneath You for example) but it's a bit like The Killer in Me, one episode spent on a character may not aways be enough. Tighter writing, hell yes! But to me this is sort of technical stuff, like i wish S7 had had a bigger budget too. But i can cope with most of the bumps along the way now just because i've got used to them. Mostly. Well, some anyway! As for Amber - the myths about her refusal are legion. i advise scepticism and the benefit of the doubt. Also, Azura Skye FTW. |
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Post by NightlySorrow on Feb 18, 2010 21:14:51 GMT -5
Season 7 has promise but it needed to be more fleshed out. It starts fine, but once the potentials show up it gets messy. If I did season 7, Kennedy wouldn't even exist. Willow doesn't need a relationship that soon, she's fine alone.
Anyone hate that they hang out at Buffy's house nonstop season 7? That set got a lot of use. Got tired of sitting in that house. The guardian appearing out of no where living in the graveyard was garbage too.
Buffy's nonstop speeches got old, and I'm sorry, but I can only take so much Andrew. Why oh why is he part of the group. And why is it Buffy gets destroyed by a uber vamp early on, but in Chosen everyone is beating them down like they are barely a threat?
And the Joyce/First Evil bit with Dawn didn't go anywhere. I waited all season for something to happen. I wasn't even sure it was the First Evil for a long time. It wasn't clear to me until the writers said so in interviews. It could of been addressed on the show better.
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