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Post by Joe on Feb 18, 2010 21:26:42 GMT -5
If I did season 7, Kennedy wouldn't even exist. Willow doesn't need a relationship that soon, she's fine alone. Willow loved Tara and she died. You want her to never move on and always be stuck up on Tara? Lol. Poor Willow  |
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Post by NightlySorrow on Feb 18, 2010 21:38:37 GMT -5
What? I barely even care about the Willow and Tara relationship, it wasn't my favorate. I find Kennedy offputting period. Even if she wasn't dating Willow and just a potential and part of the group, I'd still not care for her. I did say she wouldn't exist if I had it my way right? I don't want her around. And you don't need to be in a relationship to find happiness or be happy. Especially that quickly. There was barely distance.
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Post by lightandmagic on Feb 19, 2010 3:43:24 GMT -5
Hrm. Off the top of my head, a couple things I would have liked for season seven:
1) First, minor nitpick: Cassie wouldn't have died. The idea that it was her fate to die angered me to no end. In a show that constantly has the message that it is our choices that make us who we are, to suddenly throw her death to fate was completely contradictory of a large theme of the show. I don't even care if we didn't see her again.
2) Main element that I would add to the show is that the Guardians should have been introduced way earlier. Like within the first couple of episodes of the season. They play such a major role in the slayer mythos that they should have been alluded to; meeting them or whatnot should have been a goal of the slayers not just an accident.
3) Would have loved to see The First as Ben confronting Giles in front of the gang about murdering him. I think it could have made a powerful scene.
4) Mostly for fanservice, but I would have loveddddd to see The First as Glory again. I think she could interact with Dawn and probably able to tug at her strings, talk about how her existence is a lie, and her whole keyhood. Plus, it would have been hilarious for at least one scene to have Glory and Caleb interact.
5) Would have loved to see another Anya-centric episode. Selfless set up huge development ideas for her, Anya trying to figure out who she is. I think a good episode would go something along the lines of Anya almost being killed and then deciding to flee town, only for her to get to the border of Sunnydale and then turn around. I love her speech to Andrew but it somewhat came out of nowhere.
And uh, that's all I got for now.
On the Kennedy and Wood argument; I like 'em both! Not my favourites, but I think they were both intriguing characters.
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Post by Faith5byFive on Feb 19, 2010 6:05:45 GMT -5
Yeah i forgot to mention kennedy should of died too!
i liked Amanda her voice made me laugh
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Post by Eric on Feb 19, 2010 6:13:58 GMT -5
Hrm. Off the top of my head, a couple things I would have liked for season seven: 1) First, minor nitpick: Cassie wouldn't have died. The idea that it was her fate to die angered me to no end. In a show that constantly has the message that it is our choices that make us who we are, to suddenly throw her death to fate was completely contradictory of a large theme of the show. I don't even care if we didn't see her again. 2) Main element that I would add to the show is that the Guardians should have been introduced way earlier. Like within the first couple of episodes of the season. They play such a major role in the slayer mythos that they should have been alluded to; meeting them or whatnot should have been a goal of the slayers not just an accident. 3) Would have loved to see The First as Ben confronting Giles in front of the gang about murdering him. I think it could have made a powerful scene. 4) Mostly for fanservice, but I would have loveddddd to see The First as Glory again. I think she could interact with Dawn and probably able to tug at her strings, talk about how her existence is a lie, and her whole keyhood. Plus, it would have been hilarious for at least one scene to have Glory and Caleb interact. 5) Would have loved to see another Anya-centric episode. Selfless set up huge development ideas for her, Anya trying to figure out who she is. I think a good episode would go something along the lines of Anya almost being killed and then deciding to flee town, only for her to get to the border of Sunnydale and then turn around. I love her speech to Andrew but it somewhat came out of nowhere. And uh, that's all I got for now. On the Kennedy and Wood argument; I like 'em both! Not my favourites, but I think they were both intriguing characters. About Cassie, am I the only one who wanted Buffy to revive her after she fell onto the ground a la Prophecy Girl? And I have to agree with wanting more Glory. Yeah i forgot to mention kennedy should of died too! i liked Amanda her voice made me laugh Yay, someone who agrees with me. |
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Post by Tea - Total on Feb 19, 2010 7:21:20 GMT -5
I think the first didn't show it huge potential. The embodiment of evil, we wonder that the first would be bigger and evil..
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Post by henzINNIT on Feb 19, 2010 8:04:59 GMT -5
With season seven, I would try to tighten up the writing in general so that there are less obvious plot holes. I might also change or get rid of the "Spike sleeper agent" sub-plot, which I don't think served much of a purpose. I think Anya deserved a bit more development; we get great set-up for an arc in "Selfless", but it gets neglected and she spends the rest of the season in the background. Finally, I think it would have been really powerful if Amber Benson had played the First, even if it was only for "Conversations". That was a missed opportunity, and I have a lot of disrespect for Amber Benson's patronising refusal to do it. The season is great, I think it just needs a wee polish.  I agree. The plot needed a lot of work, it seems like they had problems figuring out what the hell was going on this year. Seeds are planted early on in some instances, but still half a dozen other things are dumped into the plot at the last minute. Spike's trigger could have easily disappeared without much notice. It doesn't have much impact or consequences beyond the initial reveal. He mostly remains dormant before it's fixed, and emotionally he has bigger things going on anyway. The pacing is pretty awful. Things are really tense in the middle of the season with the seal and the ubervamp before a string of nothing episodes slows everything down. Caleb appears (from nowhere) to kick the main plot back into motion and yet the last 4 episodes are still a mixture of sitting around doing very little and frantic sprinting for the finish line. |
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Post by gumgnome on Feb 20, 2010 6:34:05 GMT -5
Season 7 has promise but it needed to be more fleshed out. It starts fine, but once the potentials show up it gets messy. If I did season 7, Kennedy wouldn't even exist. Willow doesn't need a relationship that soon, she's fine alone. Anyone hate that they hang out at Buffy's house nonstop season 7? That set got a lot of use. Got tired of sitting in that house. The guardian appearing out of no where living in the graveyard was garbage too. Buffy's nonstop speeches got old, and I'm sorry, but I can only take so much Andrew. Why oh why is he part of the group. And why is it Buffy gets destroyed by a uber vamp early on, but in Chosen everyone is beating them down like they are barely a threat? And the Joyce/First Evil bit with Dawn didn't go anywhere. I waited all season for something to happen. I wasn't even sure it was the First Evil for a long time. It wasn't clear to me until the writers said so in interviews. It could of been addressed on the show better. I agree with pretty much all of this. Although Kennedy is my favourite potential and I'm glad she's there (one of them a needs to have some cajones), I don't think she should have been paired with Willow so quickly. Most of the relationships on Buffy develop gradually, but Kennedy seems to woo Willow simply by a) being a lesbian and b) knowing a few trite facts about Willow like where she likes to stop her Moulin Rouge DVD. I didn't really buy it. If Riley was Buffy's rebound, then Kennedy is Willow's. On the Wood talk, I love D.B. in S7 - he's the best introduction in that season and adds a nice, conflicted character for us all to get behind. The intensity of D.B.'s delivery and facial expressions is jsut brilliant and had me guessing all the way. It's either David Fury or Drew Goddard who says on the "Lies My Parents Told Me" commentary that if in doubt, end a scene with a close-up of D.B.'s face and fade out - he's just that intense! I think it's the tightly groomed goatee, or maybe the stare, but whatever it is, it works! |
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Post by Tea - Total on Feb 21, 2010 16:35:38 GMT -5
Is it just me the fightscene were more brutal.
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Post by CourtneyDax on Feb 22, 2010 1:11:04 GMT -5
And the Joyce/First Evil bit with Dawn didn't go anywhere. I waited all season for something to happen. I wasn't even sure it was the First Evil for a long time. It wasn't clear to me until the writers said so in interviews. It could of been addressed on the show better. Yeah, I thought that was a poorly constructed throwaway plot line. I would've liked it better if it was actually Joyce or Dawn took what The First said and immediately started being adverse to Buffy. |
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Post by Tea - Total on Feb 22, 2010 9:11:05 GMT -5
^^ I think the plot line at he beginning of this season was absolutely brilliant , it was a mysterious why is spike going crazy and the conversation with dead people was very unique to represent the first manipulation and the subject that spike killing again, i thought it was unpredictable. And the dawn / Joyce scene was scary and dark and i love how dawn never gived up.  |
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Post by thisyearsgirl91 on Feb 23, 2010 16:32:08 GMT -5
What would have been the point of that? Kennedy and Wood represent hope for the future for Willow and Faith. They're important to "Chosen"'s optimistic ending, whether fans like them or not. I would've found the ending much happier if these two died. They may represent a future for the other two characters, but not a future I'd want for them. Wood and Kennedy were rude, arrogant and unlikable. Why was Wood rude? I like him. Kennedy was a complete bitch. I wouldn't have cried if she died. I would have loved Glory to come back. I think she would have been great with Caleb. I wish Caleb had been introduced earlier. Spike should have been in it less. A better 'big bad. The First wasn't scary imo. |
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Post by Tea - Total on Feb 24, 2010 3:11:18 GMT -5
I would've found the ending much happier if these two died. They may represent a future for the other two characters, but not a future I'd want for them. Wood and Kennedy were rude, arrogant and unlikable. Why was Wood rude? I like him. Kennedy was a complete bitch. I wouldn't have cried if she died. I would have loved Glory to come back. I think she would have been great with Caleb. I wish Caleb had been introduced earlier. Spike should have been in it less. A better 'big bad. The First wasn't scary imo. I agree the first evil should have greater potential. Caleb , i agree he was introduced too late,but again he did blow up the council. |
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Post by buffyfan21 on Feb 24, 2010 12:59:15 GMT -5
I wish Wood and Kennedy died. I wouldn't have wanted Principal Wood to die, but Kennedy, eh. Maybe Rona, too  Overall, I like season 7 as it was. Everything was going pretty good until the bratty potentials showed up. Amanda and Vi were the only ones out of the lot of them that I could stand. Kennedy and Rona were definitely my most hated. Oh well, I digress...  |
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Post by slayerthorn on Mar 16, 2010 23:39:01 GMT -5
Cut out some of the earlier episodes in the season, insted of Cassie dying her living and being Dawn's friend and a potential, less dead potentials or at least less dead potentials that we know by name, Kennedy as a potential but not involved with Willow, no Buffy mutany, Dawn as a potential and then a slayer, and Xander keeping both eyes.
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Post by Tea - Total on Mar 18, 2010 3:02:15 GMT -5
I thought Wood was a good story, looking for revenge who killed his beloved mother, it turned out to be Nickie wood, a slayer , i was shocked.
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Post by BlueJay on Mar 19, 2010 10:51:47 GMT -5
I thought Season Seven's awkward pacing was because of Sarah Michelle Gellar quitting halfway through. I figured that was why a lot of story elements came from nowhere to get to the big finish.
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