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Post by CowboyGuy on Jun 12, 2007 13:40:32 GMT -5
I am busy playing the latest installment of the Legend of Zelda series, called "Twilight Princess". It got me thinking about this...
Twilight is the small window of time where the day/light is transitioning to night/darkness. It's neither day nor night.
What do you think this has to do with Buffy and the rest of the Slayers? In Issue 2, Buffy freaks out when she is going to be sucked out of the window into the darkness (during her dream). She is afraid.
And there are many other times where "Twilight" is said to be coming.
And now we even have a mark of Twilight. Let's speculate!
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Post by Shin on Jun 12, 2007 14:36:44 GMT -5
Buffy will get sucked into the Twilight Realm and will be turned into a wolf, while Willow turns into a little black monster which knows everything about the twilight realm.
Back to non-sillyness: It's hard to come up with a connection, what has Twilight to do with an anti-super-race society.
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Post by buffysmglover on Jan 1, 2008 6:14:44 GMT -5
I am busy playing the latest installment of the Legend of Zelda series, called "Twilight Princess". It got me thinking about this... Twilight is the small window of time where the day/light is transitioning to night/darkness. It's neither day nor night. What do you think this has to do with Buffy and the rest of the Slayers? In Issue 2, Buffy freaks out when she is going to be sucked out of the window into the darkness (during her dream). She is afraid. And there are many other times where "Twilight" is said to be coming. And now we even have a mark of Twilight. Let's speculate! Just based off your definition of twilight, it could mean our villain works on both sides of the good/evil scale which would be very interesting or it could just recognize the two sides dark & light or bad & good and how the villain will/is plotting the two sides against eachother in different circumstances. For example, the demons in Issue 1. |
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Post by juniorwatcher on Jan 1, 2008 7:47:17 GMT -5
Twilight obviously wants both sides to obliterate eachother. He wants the supernatural out of this realm.
Buffy can handle this dude, she defeated a hellgod, blew up an Old One, stopped 6 Apocolypses...should i go on?...
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Post by Lukee on Jan 1, 2008 14:37:01 GMT -5
Twilight obviously wants both sides to obliterate eachother. He wants the supernatural out of this realm. Buffy can handle this dude, she defeated a hellgod, blew up an Old One, stopped 6 Apocolypses...should i go on?... She stopped more then 6.... The Zeppo? hehe I agree Buffy will face this guy down if he or even could be a she  just a very butch one. If its wanting to end all magic and all and thinks of it as scummy then surely it doesn't use magic its self so she should have no problem fighting with this guy. |
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Post by Smashed on Jan 1, 2008 14:43:09 GMT -5
I'm not even sure I understand the whole twilight story.
He was watching Buffy, so he was the feet above the castle.
and he has people working for him (the dragon-looking monsters in I1 and the humans with the symbol)
but I don't understand where you guys are getting the "theres someone under the mask" and the "he wants to destroy all magic" part.
explainy?
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Post by hitnrun017 on Jan 1, 2008 16:03:32 GMT -5
I'm not even sure I understand the whole twilight story. He was watching Buffy, so he was the feet above the castle. and he has people working for him (the dragon-looking monsters in S1 and the humans with the symbol) but I don't understand where you guys are getting the "theres someone under the mask" and the "he wants to destroyu all magic" parrt. explainy? On the last page of issue 9 he says something about bringing the age of magic to a close. |
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Post by buffysmglover on Jan 1, 2008 22:17:38 GMT -5
I'm not even sure I understand the whole twilight story. He was watching Buffy, so he was the feet above the castle. and he has people working for him (the dragon-looking monsters in I1 and the humans with the symbol) but I don't understand where you guys are getting the "theres someone under the mask" and the "he wants to destroy all magic" part. explainy? Those monsters were tricked. He plotted them against Buffy even though they had an agreement to stay away from eachother. They aren't working for him. |
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Post by commandercool on Jan 2, 2008 1:35:10 GMT -5
HOLY F@#%! I just rented this today and I was thinking the same thing! Wow. It's a phenomenal game, I'm almost done with the first dungeon (with the boomerang). I love Zelda. The Wind Waker is like my third favorite game of all time behind only Baldur's Gate and Shadow of the Colossus.
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Post by lee on Jan 3, 2008 22:45:40 GMT -5
Metaphorically speaking Twilight might represent something in between - in between good/evil, light/dark - like has already been mentioned... or maybe in between dimensions or in between human/non-human. Or in between anything I guess. Twilight is also a time of transformation and change - where one thing becomes another. Interesting.
I think also that Buffy says she's afraid of the dark during her dream because of the reaccuring theme that (as Xander says) she is the dark and that scares the bejeezus out of her. No one wants to admit that they have a dark side but we all do - what Carl Jung referred to as the Shadow. I think this is especially hard for Buffy because she is caught in a world of good (light) and evil (dark) where everything is just that simple and cut and dry for the most part. Carl Jung also said the Shadow was the only way to one's true or "golden" self. Not a direct quote, but you get the idea. So at some point I think Buffy is really going to have to face her darkness head on and I don't think she's even touched the surface yet.
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Post by airgirl on Jan 4, 2008 10:05:47 GMT -5
There is also a further reference to Buffy being afraid of the dark in #10, anywhere but here...
I think the dark represents oblivion for Buffy - because the end of magic = the end of the Age of the Slayer. Therefore, Twilight represents the edge of oblivion, the end that waits for her...
Issue 10, sheds a little more light on it all, so to speak, although we don't learn any more about Twilight.
What confuses me is that Twilight is a magical being, working with the military etc. to end magic - I strongly suspect that there is a plan behind the plan, that Twilight has an ulterior motive and we will find that he is using the military guys to his own agenda rather than vice versa....let's see
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Post by emarie on Jan 6, 2008 2:19:29 GMT -5
Twilight obviously wants both sides to obliterate eachother. He wants the supernatural out of this realm. Buffy can handle this dude, she defeated a hellgod, blew up an Old One, stopped 6 Apocolypses...should i go on?... She blew up an old one?  Do you mean the Judge because I don't recall hearing he was an old one. Or was it something else I'm forgetting? |
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Post by buffysmglover on Jan 6, 2008 2:40:07 GMT -5
It could be the Mayor, because the snake demon he became was like one of the original demons, much larger and much more dangerous
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Post by emarie on Jan 6, 2008 2:46:01 GMT -5
Hmm, maybe. When I think old ones though I tend to think of them as tougher like Illyria, who in her old form was extreme powerful. Even in Freds' body she killed most of the fang gang in seconds. But I guess the Mayor wasn't a pure blooded demon.
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Post by CowboyGuy on Jan 6, 2008 3:07:09 GMT -5
It's weird that they speak of Twilight as if it is a force, or better...an event. But so far it's just a guy. A big dumb guy.
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Post by buffysmglover on Jan 6, 2008 3:54:51 GMT -5
It's weird that they speak of Twilight as if it is a force, or better...an event. But so far it's just a guy. A big dumb guy. LOL, you're right. But all they know so far is that there is a symbol. Except for the demon thing in Issue 10. It never says "he" or "she" or "it". So... good job catching that |
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Post by lee on Jan 8, 2008 21:37:14 GMT -5
I think knowing Joss there is some kind of cool metaphor to the Twilight thing. The fact that it ambivalent (sp) with gender and lack of a "real" name, etc. means something I think. And of course there will be some really interesting twist.
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Post by faith0tvs on Jan 9, 2008 13:42:51 GMT -5
What if Twilight isnt someone with supernatural origins?Just a human adopting this name someone who cannot find peace for a previous event caused to him/her from a person with supernatural powers and he seeks revenge .
Lets have a closer look at all the villain names that have appeared on Btvs and we'll see that their meaning has something to do with their abilities or status.Twilight could also mean that they might be caught between two situations or two states ...And it might have nothing to do with the Slayers
Isnt it kind of ironic that Buffy is afraid of the dark?Dont most of her cases or figth take place during night?
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Post by General Zod on Jan 10, 2008 20:51:34 GMT -5
I think twilight is a thricewise... actually whats a thricewise?
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Post by faith0tvs on Jan 11, 2008 13:21:13 GMT -5
If i am not mistaken it means that a god or goddess's divine entity is composed from three different parts like Brighit ,Odin Hermes ..and the good ol Mother Goddess |
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