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Post by Whedon Fan on Jul 31, 2008 7:28:06 GMT -5
Here is the latest and last cover for Spike After The Fall as it was a 4 issue max series. The cover looks great but out of all the ones I've seen I like the covers for issue 1 and 2 the best. Hope the ending is going to be good. I'm definatley picking up the TPB when this comes out...wonder if it will be hard back like AATF is?  Spike: After the Fall #4
By Brian Lynch and Franco UrruA Poet, vampire, murderer, lover, hero, prisoner, slave. Spike has been called a lot of things. But by the time this fight is over, he'll have one more name: Lord. Or 'dust'-maybe we'll just call him dust, considering how things are going. By the time this concluding issue is over, you'll be looking at the events of Angel: After the Fall in a whole new light, courtesy of Brian Lynch and Franco Urru!*Covers added by Emmie |
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Post by VampSlayer on Jul 31, 2008 15:45:12 GMT -5
Wow.....Very cool!
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Post by narflet on Aug 19, 2008 10:27:54 GMT -5
The Sharp Brothers covers, in both 'plain' and 'grindhouse' versions (click for big):   |
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Aug 19, 2008 14:52:53 GMT -5
Thanks narflet.  Although I can't see the second one. Is any one else having the same trouble? |
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Post by narflet on Aug 19, 2008 19:16:14 GMT -5
Yeah, it just said 'loading' for me when I tried to get it larger so I've re-uploaded and modified my post above, should work now.
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Post by Wyndam on Sept 2, 2008 19:00:45 GMT -5
Brian posted this little tidbit about the ending of Spike: After the Fall today on his blog: bloglynch.blogspot.com/ |
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Post by Malsad on Sept 29, 2008 16:58:54 GMT -5
kool
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Post by Ethros on Oct 23, 2008 14:51:00 GMT -5
I see in the back of Angel #13, in the IDW list of October releases, Spike ATF 4 is featured, so hopefully this will be out next week.
Here's hoping anyway
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Post by Malsad on Oct 23, 2008 17:10:15 GMT -5
if wishes were horses
then I wouldnt be hungry any more
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Post by Wyndam on Oct 27, 2008 19:25:42 GMT -5
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Post by kaleidoscope on Oct 28, 2008 8:57:25 GMT -5
I'm hoping he'll survive, but I'm fearing the worst. Jeremy's such a wonderful new original character,l It'll be sad if we have to lose him.
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Post by cheryl on Oct 28, 2008 9:27:00 GMT -5
Tomorrow! The suspense is killing me.
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Post by Ethros on Oct 28, 2008 9:45:04 GMT -5
Great news!
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Post by Emmie on Oct 28, 2008 15:06:35 GMT -5
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Post by balesthebloody on Oct 28, 2008 19:54:56 GMT -5
Can't wait till tomorrow!!
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Post by Emmie on Oct 29, 2008 16:11:51 GMT -5
***This post contains SPOILERS. Do not read if you don't want to be spoiled for the events of Issue 4***
I just re-watched Innocence last night and it was pointed out to me that the Judge existed for one all-important reason. As he reaches to burn Angel in front of Spike and Drusilla, he pulls back and says, "This one cannot be burnt...he is clean. There's no humanity left in him." That was how we, the audience, *knew* that Angel was truly gone. Angel was soulless. Angel was evil. That's why the Judge existed - to prove that Angel had gone evil.
So what's the point?
The sadecki demon in Spike: After the Fall exists for an all-important reason and it's groundbreaking. To me, it's heartbreaking. Yes, she exists to control Non's "Girl Power Yay" army, but that's just plot mechanics. That's not important and it's not why she really matters. The real reason we need the sadecki demon is to tell us, the audience, one all-important revelation: Fred is truly gone.
Non says what we the audience believed, "[Illyria's] time-sharing with a human." We thought maybe there was still a piece of Fred inside and that the Hell-A environment was allowing Fred to break free a bit. But no, that's wrong. The sadecki demon shatters that belief the way the Judge broke our hope that Angelus was still Angel - "She wants it! She's trying to force it...But there's nothing left but Illyria." It's all Illyria, all the time. She wants "it", she wants humanity, she wants the Fred-facade to be genuine. But she can't force it. That's not Fred we're seeing, but a confused and fractured Illyria struggling to establish her identity yet shackled by the remnants of the shell she embodies.
"It's scary. I know - " Illyria wearing Fred's face tells us. And I had to stop reading because I felt this tightening in my chest when I realized that was it. That was the end of Fred. Except the true end was from A Hole in the World. And this hope which sprung from the confusion that maybe that *was* Fred inside Illyria, this hope that I wish I didn't have, this hope was shattered. It hurt.
It hurt...so good. That was painful to read and painful to realize and come to grips with. But damn it was good. And dammit Brian Lynch for making me believe maybe that was Fred. I should have known you were playing with us, but my heart wanted her back.
And the hits just keep on coming as Spike's journey ends on a tragic note. In the beginning of this four-issue adventure, he's trying to find his way as a hero. He thinks about Angel and Buffy as examples, he tries to save the humans of this city and protect Illyria. But in the end, he rejects being the hero of Hell-A. His innocents were sucked into unliving husks of their former selves and he couldn't protect them. He killed the villain and freed all the women who were mind-coerced into fighting for Non, but he still wasn't the hero because he slipped. A slip of the tongue and he lost his lieutenant, Jerry. Spike thought he could save the innocents of Hell-A and protect Illyria while aiming her dangerous self against the denizons of hell. It didn't work out that way.
So now we have Spike, the bitter anti-hero. Who can no longer shout out 'I saved the world' because he lost his flock. He burned their remnants to ashes in Non's prison and he buried his hope of being a hero with Jerry. Enter the hedonistic Lord of Beverly Hills with "no sodding attachments". He's here to pick a fight and kill some demons, but don't ask him to care. It hurts too much.
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Post by CowboyGuy on Oct 29, 2008 16:47:25 GMT -5
***This post contains SPOILERS. Do not read if you don't want to be spoiled for the events of Issue 4*** I just re-watched Innocence last night and it was pointed out to me that the Judge existed for one all-important reason. As he reaches to burn Angel in front of Spike and Drusilla, he pulls back and says, "This one cannot be burnt...he is clean. There's no humanity left in him." That was how we, the audience, *knew* that Angel was truly gone. Angel was soulless. Angel was evil. That's why the Judge existed - to prove that Angel had gone evil. So what's the point? The sadecki demon in Spike: After the Fall exists for an all-important reason and it's groundbreaking. To me, it's heartbreaking. Yes, she exists to control Non's "Girl Power Yay" army, but that's just plot mechanics. That's not important and it's not why she really matters. The real reason we need the sadecki demon is to tell us, the audience, one all-important revelation: Fred is truly gone. Non says what we the audience believed, "[Illyria's] time-sharing with a human." We thought maybe there was still a piece of Fred inside and that the Hell-A environment was allowing Fred to break free a bit. But no, that's wrong. The sadecki demon shatters that belief the way the Judge broke our hope that Angelus was still Angel - "She wants it! She's trying to force it...But there's nothing left but Illyria." It's all Illyria, all the time. She wants "it", she wants humanity, she wants the Fred-facade to be genuine. But she can't force it. That's not Fred we're seeing, but a confused and fractured Illyria struggling to establish her identity yet shackled by the remnants of the shell she embodies. "It's scary. I know - " Illyria wearing Fred's face tells us. And I had to stop reading because I felt this tightening in my chest when I realized that was it. That was the end of Fred. Except the true end was from A Hole in the World. And this hope which sprung from the confusion that maybe that *was* Fred inside Illyria, this hope that I wish I didn't have, this hope was shattered. It hurt. It hurt...so good. That was painful to read and painful to realize and come to grips with. But damn it was good. And dammit Brian Lynch for making me believe maybe that was Fred. I should have known you were playing with us, but my heart wanted her back. And the hits just keep on coming as Spike's journey ends on a tragic note. In the beginning of this four-issue adventure, he's trying to find his way as a hero. He thinks about Angel and Buffy as examples, he tries to save the humans of this city and protect Illyria. But in the end, he rejects being the hero of Hell-A. His innocents were sucked into unliving husks of their former selves and he couldn't protect them. He killed the villain and freed all the women who were mind-coerced into fighting for Non, but he still wasn't the hero because he slipped. A slip of the tongue and he lost his lieutenant, Jerry. Spike thought he could save the innocents of Hell-A and protect Illyria while aiming her dangerous self against the denizons of hell. It didn't work out that way. So now we have Spike, the bitter anti-hero. Who can no longer shout out 'I saved the world' because he lost his flock. He burned their remnants to ashes in Non's prison and he buried his hope of being a hero with Jerry. Enter the hedonistic Lord of Beverly Hills with "no sodding attachments". He's here to pick a fight and kill some demons, but don't ask him to care. It hurts too much. One of the best posts ever, and it's also exactly what I thought and felt while reading this issue. It's really a revelation, even though we should have known better. Kudos Brian, kudos.  |
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Post by snizapman6294 on Oct 29, 2008 17:32:30 GMT -5
yet another reference to charmed.
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Post by Brian Lynch on Oct 29, 2008 18:08:52 GMT -5
But a REVERSE reference to CHARMED! The first one was about how bad the show is! The second is about how great the show is!
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Post by cheryl on Oct 29, 2008 22:36:09 GMT -5
Fabulous issue. Really brings the whole thing together. If Fred is really gone and she can't be retrieved via Illyria's time travel, that is really going to suck. It will suck for Wes and for Spike. It will also suck for us.
Other than that, this issue was great, lol.
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