Possible IDW Adaptation of Orpheus

[BlueJay]

There's an interview over at Buffyverse Comic Reviews given by Pat Shand with writer Scott Tipton and artist Elena Casagrande in reference to episode adaptations. Good interview in general, but there's mention of a desire of wanting to do an adaptation of Orpheus.

Here's a cover:

Link to interview here: buffyversecomics.blogspot.com/2010/09/scott-tipton-elena-casagrade-inerview.html

[Hallow Thorn]

That's to bad about "Orpheus"... Missed out on a real gem that could have been “The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco” because watching it was just not entertaining enough....

[Skytteflickan88]

I love that episode! They're not going to do it?

I love that cover. I want that cover!!! Who did the art?

[patxshand]

Read the interview

It's Elena Casagrande. It's just her and Scott's vision of the comic, not an upcoming series or a pitch or anything.

Also, just a note: The interview also covers ILLYRIA: HAUNTED and a lot of general stuff.

[Skytteflickan88]

^^ I would love to read it, but I haven't read past issue 27, and am trying to avoid spoilers. Waiting for the latest HC in the mail.

I would love to buy the original art, "real" cover or not. Do you know if she has a site?

[patxshand]

larawest.blogspot.com/

I believe Scott already owns the original art, though.

[BlueJay]

I wish they could do it though. After thinking about, Orpheus has a lot to offer. Pregger-Cordy, Faith, WILLOW, Angel vs Angelus, Team Angel.... aww. Now I REALLY want this.

[The Night Lord]

I think I'd rather Orpheus over A Cautionary Tale. That one was kinda boring imo, compared to Orpheus. Though, I'm still hoping for You're Welcome. Very faint hope, but it's still there

[BlueJay]

Well if it came down between You're Welcome and Orpheus, I'd rather have You're Welcome. But out of Orpheus and Numero Cinco, then Orpheus hands down.

[The Night Lord]

You're Welcome > Orpheus >>>>> Cautionary Tale

Btw, that's a nice cover. I wouldn't mind seeing it coloured

[Skytteflickan88]

Sept 5, 2010 17:04:05 GMT -5 patxshand said:

larawest.blogspot.com/

I believe Scott already owns the original art, though.

THANK YOU!!! Oh, so many cheap wonderful goodies.

[BlueJay]

Maybe Scott or Elena can provide a Hi-res version of the artwork and a fan can color it.

[patxshand]

The colorist of my webcomic "ANGEL: LAST NIGHT" (Ryan Marshall) is coloring it right now.

Also, "Hole in the World" was for sure the last adaptation we'll see from IDW.

[Skytteflickan88]

I found the HQ image on Elena's blog larawest.blogspot.com/2010/07/angel-orpheus-tribute.html

I can't wait to see Ryan color it, he's really good.

[Skytteflickan88]

Here's Ryan's colored version rmh223.blogspot.com/2010/09/proposed-angel-season-4-orpheus-episode.html

[wenxina]

*sigh* IMO, this is a piece that's better left uncolored. Reasons:
1. The inks are incomplete. Looking at the hi-res image, there are tons of "white gaps" left where it should be completely black. Casagrande's art also suffers from the same problem in the comics. It just looks unfinished that way.
2. The lines on Faith's face don't look good when you color the image. They are, IMO, unnecessary in the first place, but when you add color over an attempt at creating a three-dimensional space, you end up making Faith look like she has ill-placed and ill-groomed whiskers.
3. The muted color palette washes out EVERYTHING. And the multiple highlight points in Willow's hair is kinda bizarre.

I like to point out that I actually kinda liked the original piece, for what it was. An inked sketch. This, not so much. My fan (and somewhat amateur art appreciator) opinion.

[patxshand]

Sept 14, 2010 9:59:46 GMT -5 wenxina said:

*sigh* IMO, this is a piece that's better left uncolored. Reasons:
1. The inks are incomplete. Looking at the hi-res image, there are tons of "white gaps" left where it should be completely black. Casagrande's art also suffers from the same problem in the comics. It just looks unfinished that way.
2. The lines on Faith's face don't look good when you color the image. They are, IMO, unnecessary in the first place, but when you add color over an attempt at creating a three-dimensional space, you end up making Faith look like she has ill-placed and ill-groomed whiskers.
3. The muted color palette washes out EVERYTHING. And the multiple highlight points in Willow's hair is kinda bizarre.

I like to point out that I actually kinda liked the original piece, for what it was. An inked sketch. This, not so much. My fan (and somewhat amateur art appreciator) opinion.

As far as the actual image, it wasn't an inked sketch.

Also, I like Ryan's coloring quite a bit. I think a list of reasons why he shouldn't have done it is a bit inappropriate for something that a fan did for fun.

[wenxina]

A. Didn't know he was a fan doing it for fun.
B. Any work put out there for judging is fair game for critique. I gave reasons why I liked it better uncolored, not why he shouldn't have colored it.
C. Critique is supposed to be useful. The list of what I saw as weaknesses can be used to improve.
D. The image looked like an inked sketch to me. There were inks involved (inks that weren't done very carefully, IMO, but inks). But is that really the issue here?
E. It's an opinion, not a fact, and you're free to disagree with it, which you did.

[patxshand]

Just jumping to my friend's defense. If it hadn't started out with "*sigh*" I might have been a bit less quick to said defense. No harm no foul.

But colored version aside, the B&W version really looks like an inked sketch to you? I know our taste in art differs tremendously (you're a huge Jeanty fan, while I think he went from great to good to awful to okay to decent), but I thought Elena's art here was excellent. Cover-worthy.

[wenxina]

It looks unfinished to me. It's the same complaint I've had with her work so far... the inks aren't fully colored in. And it could be a sketch, or a proper drawing. Either way, the inks are my problem with the original image.
My comic art appreciation is rather varied, but the usual common denominators are that it suits the story being told, and that there's a sense of personality about it. Jeanty's art fits both criteria for me, so yeah, I like it. I'm also a huge fan of Frank Quitely's art. John Cassaday's art is cool too, and I have developed a liking for Chris Samnee's work. And I love Andy Kuhn's style.
Of IDW's stable, I'm okay with Urru's work. I like his stylized style and non-slavishness to likenesses. What I usually don't like is how his work is constantly at war with the colors... Urru's work almost always looks better in B&W than color, to me. Casagrande is light years ahead of the guy they got for "Aftermath", but her art lacks personality to me. And there is no interesting detail to most of it.
The piece in question was quite accomplished. I actually liked the concept. But the execution looked too referenced to me, and Faith's face does look like she has some unfortunate whisker situation going on.